AX25 tools and packages

AX25 tools and packages

[Bill Vodall WA7NWP]

Is sourceforge still the primary repository for the ax25 library and tools?

Thanks,
Bill - WA7NWP

Re: AX25 tools and packages

[Mike McCarthy, W1NR]

Bill Vodall WA7NWP wrote:
> Is sourceforge still the primary repository for the ax25 library and
> tools?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill - WA7NWP
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Yes.  Nothing has changed in years.  Only changes have been to the
kernel for SMP and optimizations.

Mike, W1NR

Re: AX25 tools and packages

[aa6qn]

I just downloaded a newer suite from:
http://fpac.free.fr

There were some changes to the ax25 suite to work with the later 2.6
kernels. There is also nice MINIHOWTO.

JohnF

> Bill Vodall WA7NWP wrote:
>> Is sourceforge still the primary repository for the ax25 library and
>> tools?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill - WA7NWP
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> Yes.  Nothing has changed in years.  Only changes have been to the
> kernel for SMP and optimizations.
>
> Mike, W1NR
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Re: AX25 tools and packages

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 03:19:43PM -0700, aa6qn@aa6qn.sytes.net wrote:
> I just downloaded a newer suite from:
> http://fpac.free.fr

? Host does not exist?

> There were some changes to the ax25 suite to work with the later 2.6
> kernels. There is also nice MINIHOWTO.

What changes are required? I don't think the ax25 maintainers know about
them, if they are not on sourceforge..


Hamish
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Re: AX25 tools and packages

[Chuck Hast]

On 7/26/07, Hamish Moffatt <hamish@cloud.net.au> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 03:19:43PM -0700, aa6qn@aa6qn.sytes.net wrote:
> > I just downloaded a newer suite from:
> > http://fpac.free.fr
>
> ? Host does not exist?
>
> > There were some changes to the ax25 suite to work with the later 2.6
> > kernels. There is also nice MINIHOWTO.
>
> What changes are required? I don't think the ax25 maintainers know about
> them, if they are not on sourceforge..
>
>
Bernard has been supplying them to the maintainer so they should be in
there, most of them deal with ax25ipd, ROSE and FPAC. Bernard has been
working with us here in Florida as we move our old network to Linux FPAC.

He and Charlie K4GBB have done some minor work on some of the files.
The things that have worked have been passed on to the maintainer.
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Re: AX25 tools and packages

[Michael Taylor]

On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 08:23:22PM -0400, Chuck Hast wrote:
> On 7/26/07, Hamish Moffatt <hamish@cloud.net.au> wrote:
> >On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 03:19:43PM -0700, aa6qn@aa6qn.sytes.net wrote:
> >> I just downloaded a newer suite from:
> >> http://fpac.free.fr

http://www.f6fbb.org/

> >> There were some changes to the ax25 suite to work with the later 2.6
> >> kernels. There is also nice MINIHOWTO.
> >
> Bernard has been supplying them to the maintainer so they should be in
> there, most of them deal with ax25ipd, ROSE and FPAC. Bernard has been

As one of the developers with access to ax25, I didn't know about
this. I see that there were a couple of bugs/patches/requests since
I last looked at the ax25 software in 2002-03, but I don't think that
includes everything such as any 2.6 related issues. I may of missed
any dicussion about this, so please don't think I'm blaming anyone.
Life's too short to waste time assigning fault.

I would like to work with Jean-Paul F6FBB, and everyone else to try
and prevent any unnecessary fragmentation (code forks) within our 
already small community. 

I guess this means I should setup my own packet station again,
which I haven't done after my last time I moved...

Thanks,
Michael, VE3TIX (ex. VE1MCT)

Re: AX25 tools and packages

[Ralf Baechle DL5RB]

On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 05:23:32PM +0000, Bill Vodall WA7NWP wrote:

> Is sourceforge still the primary repository for the ax25 library and tools?

Actually DL9SAU and me have moved the development away to another
machine a while ago when Sourceforge was basically unusable for weeks.
The new site is {cvs,www,ftp}.linux-ax25.org.  Thomas DL9SAU has done
various improvments and plenty of bugfixing as necessary to keep the
tools in shape for newer Linux distributions, but what we haven't done
yet and what is really overdue is a formal release.

73 de DL5RB op Ralf

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Re: AX25 tools and packages

[Iñaki Arenaza]

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>>>>> "Ralf" == Ralf Baechle DL5RB <ralf@linux-mips.org> writes:

    >> Is sourceforge still the primary repository for the ax25
    >> library and tools?

    Ralf> Actually DL9SAU and me have moved the development away to
    Ralf> another machine a while ago when Sourceforge was basically
    Ralf> unusable for weeks.  The new site is
    Ralf> {cvs,www,ftp}.linux-ax25.org. 

Then maybe a note at ax25.sourceforge.net should be in order, so
people know where to look for updated versions :-)

Saludos. Iñaki.

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Re: AX25 tools and packages

[Ken Koster]

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On Saturday 28 July 2007, Ralf Baechle DL5RB wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 05:23:32PM +0000, Bill Vodall WA7NWP wrote:
> 
> > Is sourceforge still the primary repository for the ax25 library and tools?
> 
> Actually DL9SAU and me have moved the development away to another
> machine a while ago when Sourceforge was basically unusable for weeks.
> The new site is {cvs,www,ftp}.linux-ax25.org.  Thomas DL9SAU has done
> various improvments and plenty of bugfixing as necessary to keep the
> tools in shape for newer Linux distributions, but what we haven't done
> yet and what is really overdue is a formal release.

I'm sure that many of us would appreciate a formal release, even if it's not
perfect.

I'm using the latest patches from Debian since that seemed to be the latest 
I could find.  Because my current builds are targeted at a 2.4 series kernel in
an embedded system they work with a few small patches but I'm planning
on switching to 2.6 as soon as possible.

Ken,  N7IPB

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Re: AX25 tools and packages

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 05:05:18PM -0700, Ken Koster wrote:
> On Saturday 28 July 2007, Ralf Baechle DL5RB wrote:
> > Actually DL9SAU and me have moved the development away to another
> > machine a while ago when Sourceforge was basically unusable for weeks.
> > The new site is {cvs,www,ftp}.linux-ax25.org.  Thomas DL9SAU has done
> > various improvments and plenty of bugfixing as necessary to keep the
> > tools in shape for newer Linux distributions, but what we haven't done
> > yet and what is really overdue is a formal release.
> 
> I'm sure that many of us would appreciate a formal release, even if it's not
> perfect.
> 
> I'm using the latest patches from Debian since that seemed to be the latest 
> I could find.  Because my current builds are targeted at a 2.4 series kernel in
> an embedded system they work with a few small patches but I'm planning
> on switching to 2.6 as soon as possible.

There appears to be a misconception that 2.6 requires new tools. Notice
that Ralf said newer Linux distributions (meaning newer libc, gcc etc)
rather than newer kernels.


Hamish
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Re: AX25 tools and packages

[Ralf Baechle DL5RB]

On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 11:24:51AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

> > I'm using the latest patches from Debian since that seemed to be the latest 
> > I could find.  Because my current builds are targeted at a 2.4 series kernel in
> > an embedded system they work with a few small patches but I'm planning
> > on switching to 2.6 as soon as possible.
> 
> There appears to be a misconception that 2.6 requires new tools. Notice
> that Ralf said newer Linux distributions (meaning newer libc, gcc etc)
> rather than newer kernels.

Correct.  Binary compatibility across kernels is one of the holy grails
in Linux and AX.25 is not exception to that.  Unfortunately that's a
little different for source code of the tools which at times may need a
little update to compile on a more recent system.

73 de DL5RB op Ralf

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Re: AX25 tools and packages

[Ken Koster]

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On Thursday 02 August 2007, Ralf Baechle DL5RB wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 11:24:51AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> 
> > > I'm using the latest patches from Debian since that seemed to be the latest 
> > > I could find.  Because my current builds are targeted at a 2.4 series kernel in
> > > an embedded system they work with a few small patches but I'm planning
> > > on switching to 2.6 as soon as possible.
> > 
> > There appears to be a misconception that 2.6 requires new tools. Notice
> > that Ralf said newer Linux distributions (meaning newer libc, gcc etc)
> > rather than newer kernels.
> 
> Correct.  Binary compatibility across kernels is one of the holy grails
> in Linux and AX.25 is not exception to that.  Unfortunately that's a
> little different for source code of the tools which at times may need a
> little update to compile on a more recent system.

Thanks, I figured that out last night when I discovered my cross-compile 
issues were environment related :-)

Still it would be nice to have a release with any bug-fixes.

Ken,  N7IPB  
(running openwrt kamikaze, ax25, and kiss to multiple tnc7multi's
on a linksys wrtsl54g,   :-) )

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Re: AX25 tools and packages

[Bernard Pidoux]

Hi,

I have also been working for a while on libax25, ax25-apps and 
ax25-tools adaptation for compilation with 2.6 kernels and recent compilers.

All is working quite well together with Rose-FPAC switching node and 
LinFBB BBS applications with last 2.6.22 stable kernel.

I would be glad to share my experience and results with other 
developpers. We could compare our solutions.

My work is publically available here :

AX25
http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/ax25/libax25-0.0.11.2src_f6bvp.tgz
http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/ax25/ax25-tools-0.0.8.2src_f6bvp.tgz
http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/ax25/ax25-apps-0.0.6.2src_f6bvp.tgz

ROSE-FPAC
http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/rose-fpac/fpac327-2src.tar.gz

FBB BBS patch against f6fbb704j
http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/BBS-f6fbb/fbbsrc.704l.patch
http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/BBS-f6fbb/xd704j-src.tgz

There are newer versions of FPAC (fpac327-4) and BBS (xd704m), but less 
stable. Work is still in progress...

73 de Bernard, f6bvp


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Ken Koster wrote:
> On Thursday 02 August 2007, Ralf Baechle DL5RB wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 11:24:51AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>>
>>>> I'm using the latest patches from Debian since that seemed to be the latest 
>>>> I could find.  Because my current builds are targeted at a 2.4 series kernel in
>>>> an embedded system they work with a few small patches but I'm planning
>>>> on switching to 2.6 as soon as possible.
>>> There appears to be a misconception that 2.6 requires new tools. Notice
>>> that Ralf said newer Linux distributions (meaning newer libc, gcc etc)
>>> rather than newer kernels.
>> Correct.  Binary compatibility across kernels is one of the holy grails
>> in Linux and AX.25 is not exception to that.  Unfortunately that's a
>> little different for source code of the tools which at times may need a
>> little update to compile on a more recent system.
> 
> Thanks, I figured that out last night when I discovered my cross-compile 
> issues were environment related :-)
> 
> Still it would be nice to have a release with any bug-fixes.
> 
> Ken,  N7IPB  
> (running openwrt kamikaze, ax25, and kiss to multiple tnc7multi's
> on a linksys wrtsl54g,   :-) )

AX25 Segmentation fault

[William McKeehan]

Maybe you guys can help me debug a problem.

I'm running Debian Linux; ever since I've upgraded to etch, some of the AX.25
stuff that I execute has started producing a "Segmentation fault"

For example:
/usr/sbin/beacon -c KI4HDU -d 'APZWJM via WA4RYW-7, WIDE2-1 ' -s aprs ":BLNB  
  :EastTN APRS Net  Sunday Night 8:00  on 146.94"

The packet goes out. I have no idea what's going wrong - can anyone tell me
where to start debugging this problem?
-- 
William McKeehan
KI4HDU

Re: AX25 Segmentation fault

[Mike McCarthy, W1NR]

William McKeehan wrote:
> Maybe you guys can help me debug a problem.
>
> I'm running Debian Linux; ever since I've upgraded to etch, some of the AX.25
> stuff that I execute has started producing a "Segmentation fault"
>
> For example:
> /usr/sbin/beacon -c KI4HDU -d 'APZWJM via WA4RYW-7, WIDE2-1 ' -s aprs ":BLNB  
>   :EastTN APRS Net  Sunday Night 8:00  on 146.94"
>
> The packet goes out. I have no idea what's going wrong - can anyone tell me
> where to start debugging this problem?
>   
What version of the Kernel are you running? Some of the 2.6.13-15
kernels had bugs.  But they were hard system crashes due to problems in
mkiss.

Mike, W1NR

Re: AX25 Segmentation fault

[William McKeehan]

I'm running 2.6.18-4-486.
-- 
William McKeehan

On Fri, August 3, 2007 7:22 pm, Mike McCarthy, W1NR wrote:
> William McKeehan wrote:
>> Maybe you guys can help me debug a problem.
>>
>> I'm running Debian Linux; ever since I've upgraded to etch, some of the
>> AX.25
>> stuff that I execute has started producing a "Segmentation fault"
>>
>> For example:
>> /usr/sbin/beacon -c KI4HDU -d 'APZWJM via WA4RYW-7, WIDE2-1 ' -s aprs ":BLNB
>>   :EastTN APRS Net  Sunday Night 8:00  on 146.94"
>>
>> The packet goes out. I have no idea what's going wrong - can anyone tell me
>> where to start debugging this problem?
>>
> What version of the Kernel are you running? Some of the 2.6.13-15
> kernels had bugs.  But they were hard system crashes due to problems in
> mkiss.
>
> Mike, W1NR
>
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Re: AX25 tools and packages

[Matti Aarnio]

Picking old topic, but HAM things in Linux are not changeing very rapidly.

On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 05:07:50PM +0200, Bernard Pidoux wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have also been working for a while on libax25, ax25-apps and ax25-tools 
> adaptation for compilation with 2.6 kernels and recent compilers.
>
> All is working quite well together with Rose-FPAC switching node and LinFBB 
> BBS applications with last 2.6.22 stable kernel.
>
> I would be glad to share my experience and results with other developpers. 
> We could compare our solutions.
>
> My work is publically available here :
>
> AX25
> http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/ax25/libax25-0.0.11.2src_f6bvp.tgz
> http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/ax25/ax25-tools-0.0.8.2src_f6bvp.tgz
> http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/ax25/ax25-apps-0.0.6.2src_f6bvp.tgz

Thanks!   Recently Fedora added(*) AX.25 / ROSE / NETROM protocols, and
many HAM drivers into their kernel, and now I am looking into making
up to date utilities for it.

*) .. after I bugzillaed them about the issue.

You didn't do much changes on  libax25, I see...


> ROSE-FPAC
> http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/rose-fpac/fpac327-2src.tar.gz
>
> FBB BBS patch against f6fbb704j
> http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/BBS-f6fbb/fbbsrc.704l.patch
> http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/BBS-f6fbb/xd704j-src.tgz
>
> There are newer versions of FPAC (fpac327-4) and BBS (xd704m), but less 
> stable. Work is still in progress...
>
> 73 de Bernard, f6bvp


73 de Matti, OH2MQK

Re: AX25 tools and packages

[Bernard Pidoux]

Hi Matti,

You are right. I performed minimal changes in order to make the 
necessary adaptation to 2.6 kernel.
I did not want to break things.

Concerning LinFBB and Rose-Fpac applications, I made some modifications.
See respective "Changes" files.

FBB :
http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/BBS-f6fbb/xd704o-src.tgz
http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/BBS-f6fbb/xd704o_i386.tgz
Rose-FPAC :
http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/rose-fpac/fpac327-11src.tgz
http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/rose-fpac/fpac327-12src.tgz
http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/rose-fpac/fpac327-12_i386.tgz

Please refere to FPAC MINI HOWTO for installation procedure :
http://rose.fpac.free.fr/MINI-HOWTO/

73 de Bernard, f6bvp

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Matti Aarnio wrote :
> Picking old topic, but HAM things in Linux are not changeing very rapidly.
>
> On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 05:07:50PM +0200, Bernard Pidoux wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have also been working for a while on libax25, ax25-apps and ax25-tools 
>> adaptation for compilation with 2.6 kernels and recent compilers.
>>
>> All is working quite well together with Rose-FPAC switching node and LinFBB 
>> BBS applications with last 2.6.22 stable kernel.
>>
>> I would be glad to share my experience and results with other developpers. 
>> We could compare our solutions.
>>
>> My work is publically available here :
>>
>> AX25
>> http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/ax25/libax25-0.0.11.2src_f6bvp.tgz
>> http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/ax25/ax25-tools-0.0.8.2src_f6bvp.tgz
>> http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/ax25/ax25-apps-0.0.6.2src_f6bvp.tgz
>>     
>
> Thanks!   Recently Fedora added(*) AX.25 / ROSE / NETROM protocols, and
> many HAM drivers into their kernel, and now I am looking into making
> up to date utilities for it.
>
> *) .. after I bugzillaed them about the issue.
>
> You didn't do much changes on  libax25, I see...
>
>
>   
>> ROSE-FPAC
>> http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/rose-fpac/fpac327-2src.tar.gz
>>
>> FBB BBS patch against f6fbb704j
>> http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/BBS-f6fbb/fbbsrc.704l.patch
>> http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/BBS-f6fbb/xd704j-src.tgz
>>
>> There are newer versions of FPAC (fpac327-4) and BBS (xd704m), but less 
>> stable. Work is still in progress...
>>
>> 73 de Bernard, f6bvp
>>     
>
>
> 73 de Matti, OH2MQK
>
>
>