* seq_buf_putc() and strings
@ 2026-10-28 17:13 Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-28 17:30 ` Alejandro Colomar
` (3 more replies)
0 siblings, 4 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Alejandro Colomar @ 2026-10-28 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Steven Rostedt; +Cc: Jiri Kosina, Petr Mladek, Kees Cook, linux-hardening
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 901 bytes --]
Hi Steven,
I've been looking at rewriting seq_buf with pointers instead of sizes.
While doing that, I've found one place which writes to seq_buf without
forming a proper string (that is, a null-terminated string).
$ git show v7.3:lib/seq_buf.c | grepc seq_buf_putc
(standard input):int seq_buf_putc(struct seq_buf *s, unsigned char c)
{
WARN_ON(s->size == 0);
if (seq_buf_can_fit(s, 1)) {
s->buffer[s->len++] = c;
return 0;
}
seq_buf_set_overflow(s);
return -1;
}
I think a safe API for handling strings would have to make sure that it
*always* holds a string. I think this function should write a NUL byte
after the byte written, and so, I suggest doing this:
s->buffer[s->len++] = c;
+ s->buffer[s->len] = '\0';
Are there any reasons to not write that NUL byte?
Have a lovely night!
Alex
--
<https://www.alejandro-colomar.es>
[-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --]
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: seq_buf_putc() and strings
2026-10-28 17:13 seq_buf_putc() and strings Alejandro Colomar
@ 2026-10-28 17:30 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-28 17:47 ` Steven Rostedt
` (2 subsequent siblings)
3 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Alejandro Colomar @ 2026-10-28 17:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Steven Rostedt; +Cc: Jiri Kosina, Petr Mladek, Kees Cook, linux-hardening
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1536 bytes --]
> Date: 2026-10-28 18:13:43+0100
> From: Alejandro Colomar <alx+linux-hardening@kernel.org>
>
> Hi Steven,
>
>
> I've been looking at rewriting seq_buf with pointers instead of sizes.
> While doing that, I've found one place which writes to seq_buf without
> forming a proper string (that is, a null-terminated string).
>
> $ git show v7.3:lib/seq_buf.c | grepc seq_buf_putc
> (standard input):int seq_buf_putc(struct seq_buf *s, unsigned char c)
> {
> WARN_ON(s->size == 0);
>
> if (seq_buf_can_fit(s, 1)) {
> s->buffer[s->len++] = c;
> return 0;
> }
> seq_buf_set_overflow(s);
> return -1;
> }
>
> I think a safe API for handling strings would have to make sure that it
> *always* holds a string. I think this function should write a NUL byte
> after the byte written, and so, I suggest doing this:
>
> s->buffer[s->len++] = c;
> + s->buffer[s->len] = '\0';
>
> Are there any reasons to not write that NUL byte?
Or to simplify, we could rewrite the function entirely as:
int seq_buf_putc(struct seq_buf *s, unsigned char c)
{
- WARN_ON(s->size == 0);
-
- if (seq_buf_can_fit(s, 1)) {
- s->buffer[s->len++] = c;
- return 0;
- }
- seq_buf_set_overflow(s);
- return -1;
+ return seq_buf_puts(s, (char [2]){c, '\0'});
}
It involves one more function call, but I suspect that overhead is
going to be negligible.
Cheers,
Alex
--
<https://www.alejandro-colomar.es>
[-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --]
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: seq_buf_putc() and strings
2026-10-28 17:13 seq_buf_putc() and strings Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-28 17:30 ` Alejandro Colomar
@ 2026-10-28 17:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-10-28 18:00 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-28 20:59 ` seq_buf_used() return value on overflow Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-28 21:30 ` seq_buf_str() silent truncation (data corruption) Alejandro Colomar
3 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Steven Rostedt @ 2026-10-28 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alejandro Colomar; +Cc: Jiri Kosina, Petr Mladek, Kees Cook, linux-hardening
On Wed, 28 Oct 2026 18:13:40 +0100
Alejandro Colomar <alx+linux-hardening@kernel.org> wrote:
> Are there any reasons to not write that NUL byte?
Yes, for speed. seq_buf is used in hotpaths in tracing. I purposely made
the design decision that the seq_buf string is never guaranteed to be NUL
terminated.
-- Steve
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: seq_buf_putc() and strings
2026-10-28 17:47 ` Steven Rostedt
@ 2026-10-28 18:00 ` Alejandro Colomar
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Alejandro Colomar @ 2026-10-28 18:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Steven Rostedt; +Cc: Jiri Kosina, Petr Mladek, Kees Cook, linux-hardening
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 570 bytes --]
Hi Steven,
> Date: 2026-10-28 13:47:55-0400
> From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
>
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2026 18:13:40 +0100
> Alejandro Colomar <alx+linux-hardening@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > Are there any reasons to not write that NUL byte?
>
> Yes, for speed. seq_buf is used in hotpaths in tracing. I purposely made
> the design decision that the seq_buf string is never guaranteed to be NUL
> terminated.
Hmmm, okay; I'll keep that in mind when rewriting. Thanks!
Cheers,
Alex
>
> -- Steve
--
<https://www.alejandro-colomar.es>
[-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --]
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* seq_buf_used() return value on overflow
2026-10-28 17:13 seq_buf_putc() and strings Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-28 17:30 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-28 17:47 ` Steven Rostedt
@ 2026-10-28 20:59 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-28 21:03 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-28 21:30 ` seq_buf_str() silent truncation (data corruption) Alejandro Colomar
3 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Alejandro Colomar @ 2026-10-28 20:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Steven Rostedt; +Cc: Jiri Kosina, Petr Mladek, Kees Cook, linux-hardening
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2427 bytes --]
Hi Steven,
Another question that arised while rewriting seq_buf.
There's seq_buf_used(), which replaced (in 2014) the previous
SEQ_BUF_USED(). That commit changed the value from
min((s)->len, (s)->size - 1)
to
min(s->len, s->size)
but didn't change any other code. I don't see any mentions about that
off-by-one change in the commit message. (There are two 'Link:' tags,
but I didn't see any discussion about this patch in those; they seem to
focus on other patches of the same set.)
I wonder, because when changing to use pointers, the good behavior would
be with the -1, so I wonder whether we can go back to the old behavior
easily, or if anything depends on that value. Was this a regression?
Or was it a silent fix? Or is it unimportant at the moment?
This is the commit that I'm talking about:
eeab98154dc0 (2014-11-19; "seq_buf: Create seq_buf_used() to find out how much was written")
Here's what I'd like to change:
diff --git i/include/linux/seq_buf.h w/include/linux/seq_buf.h
index 05e70ac18ddb..63d077dd8a74 100644
--- i/include/linux/seq_buf.h
+++ w/include/linux/seq_buf.h
@@ -78,7 +78,7 @@
/* How much buffer was written? */
static inline unsigned int seq_buf_used(struct seq_buf *s)
{
- return min(s->len, s->size);
+ return min(s->len, s->size - 1);
}
/**
The rationale for having that -1 is the following:
Consider a representation of a buffer where s->p holds either a pointer
to the terminating null byte (or the position where it should be written,
if not yet written), or NULL if the buffer has overflown, and s->end
holds unconditionally ARRAY_END() of the buffer.
By doing s->size-1 on overflow, we'd translate it to s->end-1 with the
pointer representation, which happens to point to the null byte (or
where it should be written), which would make this offset quite
consistent.
If we do s->size without the -1, then that offset puts us one-past-the-
last element, which isn't usable in the same places.
If you would accept a patch to add back that -1, let me know and I'll
send it, or feel free to do it yourself adding the following:
Reported-by: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
Suggested-by: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
I guess it would be better that I send a patch with a proper commit
message.
Have a lovely night!
Alex
--
<https://www.alejandro-colomar.es>
[-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --]
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: seq_buf_used() return value on overflow
2026-10-28 20:59 ` seq_buf_used() return value on overflow Alejandro Colomar
@ 2026-10-28 21:03 ` Alejandro Colomar
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Alejandro Colomar @ 2026-10-28 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Steven Rostedt; +Cc: Jiri Kosina, Petr Mladek, Kees Cook, linux-hardening
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2984 bytes --]
> Date: 2026-10-28 21:59:44+0100
> From: Alejandro Colomar <alx+linux-hardening@kernel.org>
>
> Hi Steven,
>
>
> Another question that arised while rewriting seq_buf.
>
> There's seq_buf_used(), which replaced (in 2014) the previous
> SEQ_BUF_USED(). That commit changed the value from
> min((s)->len, (s)->size - 1)
> to
> min(s->len, s->size)
> but didn't change any other code. I don't see any mentions about that
> off-by-one change in the commit message. (There are two 'Link:' tags,
> but I didn't see any discussion about this patch in those; they seem to
> focus on other patches of the same set.)
>
> I wonder, because when changing to use pointers, the good behavior would
> be with the -1, so I wonder whether we can go back to the old behavior
> easily, or if anything depends on that value. Was this a regression?
> Or was it a silent fix? Or is it unimportant at the moment?
>
> This is the commit that I'm talking about:
>
> eeab98154dc0 (2014-11-19; "seq_buf: Create seq_buf_used() to find out how much was written")
>
> Here's what I'd like to change:
>
> diff --git i/include/linux/seq_buf.h w/include/linux/seq_buf.h
> index 05e70ac18ddb..63d077dd8a74 100644
> --- i/include/linux/seq_buf.h
> +++ w/include/linux/seq_buf.h
> @@ -78,7 +78,7 @@
> /* How much buffer was written? */
> static inline unsigned int seq_buf_used(struct seq_buf *s)
> {
> - return min(s->len, s->size);
> + return min(s->len, s->size - 1);
> }
>
> /**
>
> The rationale for having that -1 is the following:
> Consider a representation of a buffer where s->p holds either a pointer
> to the terminating null byte (or the position where it should be written,
> if not yet written), or NULL if the buffer has overflown, and s->end
> holds unconditionally ARRAY_END() of the buffer.
>
> By doing s->size-1 on overflow, we'd translate it to s->end-1 with the
> pointer representation, which happens to point to the null byte (or
> where it should be written), which would make this offset quite
> consistent.
>
> If we do s->size without the -1, then that offset puts us one-past-the-
> last element, which isn't usable in the same places.
Oh, I think I see the reason. If ->size==0, then -1 would wrap around
and give a huge value.
So, we can't do this for now. I'll have to do the change at the same
time that I do the other changes (I was hoping I could do some parts
gradually).
Cheers,
Alex
>
> If you would accept a patch to add back that -1, let me know and I'll
> send it, or feel free to do it yourself adding the following:
>
> Reported-by: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
> Suggested-by: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
>
> I guess it would be better that I send a patch with a proper commit
> message.
>
>
> Have a lovely night!
> Alex
>
> --
> <https://www.alejandro-colomar.es>
--
<https://www.alejandro-colomar.es>
[-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --]
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* seq_buf_str() silent truncation (data corruption)
2026-10-28 17:13 seq_buf_putc() and strings Alejandro Colomar
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2026-10-28 20:59 ` seq_buf_used() return value on overflow Alejandro Colomar
@ 2026-10-28 21:30 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-29 1:04 ` Steven Rostedt
3 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Alejandro Colomar @ 2026-10-28 21:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Steven Rostedt; +Cc: Jiri Kosina, Petr Mladek, Kees Cook, linux-hardening
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1686 bytes --]
Hi Steve,
I believe I've found a bug in seq_buf_str().
Consider the following code:
char buf[3];
struct seq_buf s;
seq_buf_init(&s, buf, 3);
seq_buf_putmem(&s, "foo", 3); // This will return 0, I believe.
// At this point, ->len==3 and ->size==3, I believe.
seq_buf_str(&s); // BUG
Let's see the implementation of seq_buf_str():
$ git show v7.3:include/linux/seq_buf.h | grepc seq_buf_str
(standard input):static inline const char *seq_buf_str(struct seq_buf *s)
{
if (WARN_ON(s->size == 0))
return "";
if (seq_buf_buffer_left(s))
s->buffer[s->len] = 0;
else
s->buffer[s->size - 1] = 0;
return s->buffer;
}
The first check is fine (we don't trigger the WARN_ON()).
seq_buf_buffer_left(s) will return 0 (it returns 's->size - s->len').
This means we'll execute the second branch. That branch will result in
overwriting the third byte with a '\0', without reporting the overflow.
I believe the following should fix the bug:
@@ -102,10 +104,12 @@ static inline const char *seq_buf_str(struct seq_buf *s)
if (WARN_ON(s->size == 0))
return "";
- if (seq_buf_buffer_left(s))
+ if (seq_buf_buffer_left(s)) {
s->buffer[s->len] = 0;
- else
+ } else {
+ seq_buf_set_overflow(s);
s->buffer[s->size - 1] = 0;
+ }
return s->buffer;
}
I have not yet researched enough to sign a patch, but please let me know
what you think. I can prepare a formal patch next week.
NOT-assisted-by: LLM
Reported-by: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
Have a lovely night!
Alex
--
<https://www.alejandro-colomar.es>
[-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --]
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: seq_buf_str() silent truncation (data corruption)
2026-10-28 21:30 ` seq_buf_str() silent truncation (data corruption) Alejandro Colomar
@ 2026-10-29 1:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-10-29 11:48 ` Alejandro Colomar
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Steven Rostedt @ 2026-10-29 1:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alejandro Colomar; +Cc: Jiri Kosina, Petr Mladek, Kees Cook, linux-hardening
On Wed, 28 Oct 2026 22:30:38 +0100
Alejandro Colomar <alx+linux-hardening@kernel.org> wrote:
> Let's see the implementation of seq_buf_str():
>
> $ git show v7.3:include/linux/seq_buf.h | grepc seq_buf_str
> (standard input):static inline const char *seq_buf_str(struct seq_buf *s)
> {
> if (WARN_ON(s->size == 0))
> return "";
>
> if (seq_buf_buffer_left(s))
> s->buffer[s->len] = 0;
> else
> s->buffer[s->size - 1] = 0;
>
> return s->buffer;
> }
>
> The first check is fine (we don't trigger the WARN_ON()).
> seq_buf_buffer_left(s) will return 0 (it returns 's->size - s->len').
> This means we'll execute the second branch. That branch will result in
> overwriting the third byte with a '\0', without reporting the overflow.
Yes, Kees and I already discussed this:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20261016145928.16eddc9a@gandalf.local.home/
-- Steve
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: seq_buf_str() silent truncation (data corruption)
2026-10-29 1:04 ` Steven Rostedt
@ 2026-10-29 11:48 ` Alejandro Colomar
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Alejandro Colomar @ 2026-10-29 11:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Steven Rostedt; +Cc: Jiri Kosina, Petr Mladek, Kees Cook, linux-hardening
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1230 bytes --]
Hi Kees,
> Date: 2026-10-28 21:04:44-0400
> From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
>
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2026 22:30:38 +0100
> Alejandro Colomar <alx+linux-hardening@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > Let's see the implementation of seq_buf_str():
> >
> > $ git show v7.3:include/linux/seq_buf.h | grepc seq_buf_str
> > (standard input):static inline const char *seq_buf_str(struct seq_buf *s)
> > {
> > if (WARN_ON(s->size == 0))
> > return "";
> >
> > if (seq_buf_buffer_left(s))
> > s->buffer[s->len] = 0;
> > else
> > s->buffer[s->size - 1] = 0;
> >
> > return s->buffer;
> > }
> >
> > The first check is fine (we don't trigger the WARN_ON()).
> > seq_buf_buffer_left(s) will return 0 (it returns 's->size - s->len').
> > This means we'll execute the second branch. That branch will result in
> > overwriting the third byte with a '\0', without reporting the overflow.
>
> Yes, Kees and I already discussed this:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20261016145928.16eddc9a@gandalf.local.home/
Oh, indeed! I didn't understand it enough back then so didn't relate it
to this. :-)
Have a lovely day!
Alex
>
> -- Steve
--
<https://www.alejandro-colomar.es>
[-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --]
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2026-10-29 11:48 UTC | newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed
-- links below jump to the message on this page --
2026-10-28 17:13 seq_buf_putc() and strings Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-28 17:30 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-28 17:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-10-28 18:00 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-28 20:59 ` seq_buf_used() return value on overflow Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-28 21:03 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-28 21:30 ` seq_buf_str() silent truncation (data corruption) Alejandro Colomar
2026-10-29 1:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-10-29 11:48 ` Alejandro Colomar
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox