From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: Tali Perry <tali.perry1@gmail.com>
Cc: Tyrone Ting <warp5tw@gmail.com>,
avifishman70@gmail.com, tmaimon77@gmail.com, venture@google.com,
yuenn@google.com, benjaminfair@google.com, andi.shyti@kernel.org,
wsa@kernel.org, rand.sec96@gmail.com,
wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com, tali.perry@nuvoton.com,
Avi.Fishman@nuvoton.com, tomer.maimon@nuvoton.com,
KWLIU@nuvoton.com, JJLIU0@nuvoton.com, kfting@nuvoton.com,
openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/7] i2c: npcm: use i2c frequency table
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 13:27:43 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zt7Nn9uJSeHFUZZF@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHb3i=uN5jtczEjHhzwL9E9c6d9rU-QZckhU79KzPuY5n81CyA@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Sep 08, 2024 at 11:54:50AM +0300, Tali Perry wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 3:00 PM Andy Shevchenko
> <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 01, 2024 at 06:53:38PM +0300, Tali Perry wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:19 PM Andy Shevchenko
> > > <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
...
> > > The original equations were tested on a variety of chips and base clocks.
> > > Since we added devices that use higher frequencies of the module we
> > > saw that there is a mismatch between the equation and the actual
> > > results on the bus itself, measured on scope.
> > > So instead of using the equations we did an optimization per module
> > > frequency, verified on a device.
> > > Most of the work was focused on the rise time of the SCL and SDA,
> > > which depends on external load of the bus and PU.
> > > We needed to make sure that in all valid range of load the rise time
> > > is compliant of the SMB spec timing requirements.
> > >
> > > This patch include the final values after extensive testing both at
> > > Nuvoton as well as at customer sites.
> >
> > But:
> > 1) why is it better than do calculations?
> > 2) can it be problematic on theoretically different PCB design in the future?
> >
> > P.S. If there is a good explanations to these and more, elaborate this in the
> > commit message.
>
> Thanks for your comments,
>
> 1) The equations were not accurate to begin with.
> They are an approximation of the ideal value.
> The ideal value is calculated per frequency of the core module.
This is crucial detail.
> 2) As you wrote , different PCB designs, or specifically to this case
> : the number and type of targets on the bus,
> impact the required values for the timing registers.
> Users can recalculate the numbers for each bus ( out of 24) and get
> an even better optimization,
> but our users chose not to.
> Instead - we manually picked values per frequency that match the
> entire valid range of targets (from 1 to max number).
> Then we check against the AMR described in SMB spec and make sure
> that none of the values is exceeding.
> this process was led by the chip architect and included a lot of testing.
>
> Do we need to add this entire description to the commit message? It
> sounds a bit too detailed to me.
Yes, please.
--
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-09 10:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-30 3:46 [PATCH v2 0/7] i2c: npcm: Bug fixes read/write operation, checkpatch Tyrone Ting
2024-08-30 3:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] i2c: npcm: restore slave addresses array length Tyrone Ting
2024-09-05 21:23 ` Andi Shyti
2024-09-06 2:23 ` Tyrone Ting
2024-09-05 21:36 ` Andi Shyti
2024-09-06 2:28 ` Tyrone Ting
2024-09-06 6:49 ` Andi Shyti
2024-09-06 11:40 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-09-06 7:05 ` Andi Shyti
2024-09-06 8:01 ` Tyrone Ting
2024-08-30 3:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] i2c: npcm: correct the read/write operation procedure Tyrone Ting
2024-09-05 21:29 ` Andi Shyti
2024-09-08 10:39 ` Tali Perry
2024-09-09 1:49 ` Tyrone Ting
2024-08-30 3:46 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] i2c: npcm: use a software flag to indicate a BER condition Tyrone Ting
2024-09-05 21:33 ` Andi Shyti
2024-08-30 3:46 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] i2c: npcm: Modify timeout evaluation mechanism Tyrone Ting
2024-09-05 21:39 ` Andi Shyti
2024-09-08 10:47 ` Tali Perry
2024-09-09 1:47 ` Tyrone Ting
2024-08-30 3:46 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] i2c: npcm: Modify the client address assignment Tyrone Ting
2024-08-30 19:16 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-09-02 1:40 ` Tyrone Ting
2024-09-02 11:54 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-09-03 2:07 ` Tyrone Ting
2024-08-30 3:46 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] i2c: npcm: use i2c frequency table Tyrone Ting
2024-08-30 19:19 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-09-01 15:53 ` Tali Perry
2024-09-02 11:53 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-09-08 8:54 ` Tali Perry
2024-09-09 10:27 ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2024-09-05 21:43 ` Andi Shyti
2024-09-09 1:56 ` Tyrone Ting
2024-09-09 12:57 ` Andi Shyti
2024-09-10 1:11 ` Tyrone Ting
2024-08-30 3:46 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] i2c: npcm: Enable slave in eob interrupt Tyrone Ting
2024-09-08 10:50 ` Tali Perry
2024-09-08 10:58 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] i2c: npcm: Bug fixes read/write operation, checkpatch Tali Perry
2024-09-09 13:00 ` Andi Shyti
2024-09-10 1:12 ` Tyrone Ting
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