[ANNOUNCE]: IA64 ISOs based on Fedora Core 5

[ANNOUNCE]: IA64 ISOs based on Fedora Core 5

[Prarit Bhargava]

Hello,

A set of CD ISOs and a DVD ISO based on the March 20, 2006 image of the
ia64 Fedora development branch (also known as rawhide) are available from

		http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fedora

The CD set consists of

	FC5-ia64-disc1.iso
	FC5-ia64-disc2.iso
	FC5-ia64-disc3.iso
	FC5-ia64-disc4.iso
	FC5-ia64-disc5.iso,

and the DVD iso is

	FC5-ia64-DVD.iso

These ISOs are not officially supported by the Fedora Project, however, 
a tracking bugzilla has been opened for the fedora-ia64 project here:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?idþdora-ia64

In order to track issues found with the ia64 Fedora development branch 
or issues with the ISOS, please enter "fedora-ia64" or 163350 in the 
"blocks" field of new bugzillas.

You can contribute by signing up on the fedora-ia64 mailing list here:

	http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ia64-list

Enjoy,

Prarit.

Re: [ANNOUNCE]: IA64 ISOs based on Fedora Core 5

[Paul Nasrat]

On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 21:53 -0400, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> A set of CD ISOs and a DVD ISO based on the March 20, 2006 image of the
> ia64 Fedora development branch (also known as rawhide) are available from
> 
> 		http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fedora

http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fedora-ia64/download - 404

http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fedora/download/ - 403

http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fedora/download/FC5-ia64-disc1.iso seems
correct.

> The CD set consists of
> 
> 	FC5-ia64-disc1.iso
> 	FC5-ia64-disc2.iso
> 	FC5-ia64-disc3.iso
> 	FC5-ia64-disc4.iso
> 	FC5-ia64-disc5.iso,


I assume for the weekly snapshots of rawhide that you'll be putting
unique (eg date based) names on the isos so they can be readily
identified, else you're going to run into trouble tracking issues across
media sets.  Do these isos correspond with FC5 or a random snapshot?

Paul

Re: [ANNOUNCE]: IA64 ISOs based on Fedora Core 5

[David Woodhouse]

On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 22:25 -0400, Paul Nasrat wrote:
> I assume for the weekly snapshots of rawhide that you'll be putting
> unique (eg date based) names on the isos so they can be readily
> identified, else you're going to run into trouble tracking issues
> across media sets. 

To be honest, I'm not convinced that weekly ISO builds are particularly
useful -- we don't do that for rawhide on other architectures either.
It's probably better just to encourage people to use rsync to keep up
with rawhide, rather than downloading it all over again each week.

>  Do these isos correspond with FC5 or a random snapshot?

Rawhide for about a week leading up to March 20th was identical to FC5
in all but the 'fedora-release' package. 

If making an IA64 'FC5' I'd be inclined to replace the fedora-release
package too. In fact, you almost certainly want to do that anyway, since
you'll be publishing the errata, and fedora-release contains the yum
configuration.

Aside from the updates, the next task is building Extras and Livna for
IA64, of course...

-- 
dwmw2

Re: [ANNOUNCE]: IA64 ISOs based on Fedora Core 5

[Prarit Bhargava]

Paul Nasrat wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 21:53 -0400, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
> 
>>Hello,
>>
>>A set of CD ISOs and a DVD ISO based on the March 20, 2006 image of the
>>ia64 Fedora development branch (also known as rawhide) are available from
>>
>>		http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fedora
> 
> 
> http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fedora-ia64/download - 404

Yep, that doesn't exist. 'fedora', not 'fedora-ia64'

> 
> http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fedora/download/ - 403
> 

Odd .. that seems to work for me (off of my home connection).  I'll 
check into it ...

> 
> 
> 
> I assume for the weekly snapshots of rawhide that you'll be putting
> unique (eg date based) names on the isos so they can be readily
> identified, else you're going to run into trouble tracking issues across
> media sets.  Do these isos correspond with FC5 or a random snapshot?
> 

My plan was to take a weekly snapshot of rawhide and give it a 
date-based name to avoid the problem(s) you bring up.

P.

Re: [ANNOUNCE]: IA64 ISOs based on Fedora Core 5

[Prarit Bhargava]

David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 22:25 -0400, Paul Nasrat wrote:
> 
>>I assume for the weekly snapshots of rawhide that you'll be putting
>>unique (eg date based) names on the isos so they can be readily
>>identified, else you're going to run into trouble tracking issues
>>across media sets. 
> 
> 
> To be honest, I'm not convinced that weekly ISO builds are particularly
> useful -- we don't do that for rawhide on other architectures either.
> It's probably better just to encourage people to use rsync to keep up
> with rawhide, rather than downloading it all over again each week.
> 

Unfortunately, it seems I have users who are unwilling to use yum, etc., 
in the short term.  They would prefer weekly snapshots.
> 
>> Do these isos correspond with FC5 or a random snapshot?
> 
> 
> Rawhide for about a week leading up to March 20th was identical to FC5
> in all but the 'fedora-release' package. 
> 

Yep -- I replaced fedora-release with the FC5 version in the images.  I 
didn't mention it because I didn't think it was that important :).

> Aside from the updates, the next task is building Extras and Livna for
> IA64, of course...
> 

Whaddya think I'm working on? :)

P.

Re: [ANNOUNCE]: IA64 ISOs based on Fedora Core 5

[David Woodhouse]

On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 06:54 -0400, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
> > To be honest, I'm not convinced that weekly ISO builds are particularly
> > useful -- we don't do that for rawhide on other architectures either.
> > It's probably better just to encourage people to use rsync to keep up
> > with rawhide, rather than downloading it all over again each week.
> 
> Unfortunately, it seems I have users who are unwilling to use yum, etc., 
> in the short term.  They would prefer weekly snapshots.

They actually want to _reinstall_ weekly? Or do a full 'upgrade' weekly?

Even so, they could quite happily do that from a normal rawhide mirror
like everyone else does, rather than using ISO images. That just seems
like a gratuitous waste of bandwidth to me -- for rawhide even more so
than for the actual releases.

> Yep -- I replaced fedora-release with the FC5 version in the images.  I 
> didn't mention it because I didn't think it was that important :).

The _real_ FC5 version -- doesn't that mean the updates repo is
configured to point at a non-existent directory? 

> > Aside from the updates, the next task is building Extras and Livna for
> > IA64, of course...
> 
> Whaddya think I'm working on? :)

:)


-- 
dwmw2

Re: [ANNOUNCE]: IA64 ISOs based on Fedora Core 5

[Paul Nasrat]

On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 06:52 -0400, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
> Paul Nasrat wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 21:53 -0400, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
> > 
> >>Hello,
> >>
> >>A set of CD ISOs and a DVD ISO based on the March 20, 2006 image of the
> >>ia64 Fedora development branch (also known as rawhide) are available from
> >>
> >>		http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fedora
> > 
> > 
> > http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fedora-ia64/download - 404
> 
> Yep, that doesn't exist. 'fedora', not 'fedora-ia64'

That's the Download link on the page here:

http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fedora/ 

    <P>
    The ISOs and a mirror of Fedora Core IA64 development branch can be
    accessed via ftp by clicking on the <a href="http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fedora-ia64/download">
    Download</a> link on the left hand side of this page.

Can you get that updated with the ftp uri.

Paul

Re: [ANNOUNCE]: IA64 ISOs based on Fedora Core 5

[Paul Nasrat]

On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 06:54 -0400, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
> David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 22:25 -0400, Paul Nasrat wrote:
> > 
> >>I assume for the weekly snapshots of rawhide that you'll be putting
> >>unique (eg date based) names on the isos so they can be readily
> >>identified, else you're going to run into trouble tracking issues
> >>across media sets. 
> > 
> > 
> > To be honest, I'm not convinced that weekly ISO builds are particularly
> > useful -- we don't do that for rawhide on other architectures either.
> > It's probably better just to encourage people to use rsync to keep up
> > with rawhide, rather than downloading it all over again each week.
> > 
> 
> Unfortunately, it seems I have users who are unwilling to use yum, etc., 
> in the short term.  They would prefer weekly snapshots.

Really having done this for ppc, and also working on anaconda - I'd
heartily recommend using NFS and tracking rawhide.  With NFS it's
trivial to drop in an RHupdates to fix up issues, with isos it becomes
much harder.

Paul