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From: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Vasant Hegde <vasant.hegde@amd.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, security@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] iommu/sva: Invalidate KVA range on kernel TLB flush
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 10:57:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2080aaea-0d6e-418e-8391-ddac9b39c109@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250709111527.5ba9bc31@DESKTOP-0403QTC.>

Hi Jacob,

On 7/10/25 02:15, Jacob Pan wrote:
> Hi Jason,
> 
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 13:27:24 -0300
> Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 08:51:58AM -0700, Jacob Pan wrote:
>>>> In the IOMMU Shared Virtual Addressing (SVA) context, the IOMMU
>>>> hardware shares and walks the CPU's page tables. Architectures
>>>> like x86 share static kernel address mappings across all user
>>>> page tables, allowing the IOMMU to access the kernel portion of
>>>> these tables.
>>
>>> Is there a use case where a SVA user can access kernel memory in the
>>> first place?
>>
>> No. It should be fully blocked.
>>
> Then I don't understand what is the "vulnerability condition" being
> addressed here. We are talking about KVA range here.

Let me take a real example:

A device might be mistakenly configured to access memory at IOVA
0xffffa866001d5000 (a vmalloc'd memory region) with user-mode access
permission. The corresponding page table entries for this IOVA
translation, assuming a five-level page table, would appear as follows:

PGD: Entry present with U/S bit set (1)
P4D: Entry present with U/S bit set (1)
PUD: Entry present with U/S bit set (1)
PMD: Entry present with U/S bit set (1)
PTE: Entry present with U/S bit clear (0)

When the IOMMU walks this page table, it may potentially cache all
present entries, regardless of the U/S bit's state. Upon reaching the
leaf PTE, the IOMMU performs a permission check. This involves comparing
the device's DMA access mode (in this case, user mode) against the
cumulative U/S permission derived from an AND operation across all U/S
bits in the traversed page table entries (which here results in U/S ==
0).

The IOMMU correctly blocks this DMA access because the device's
requested access (user mode) exceeds the permissions granted by the page
table (supervisor-only at the PTE level). However, the PGD, P4D, PUD,
and PMD entries that were traversed might remain cached within the
IOMMU's paging structure cache.

Now, consider a scenario where the page table leaf page is freed and
subsequently repurposed, and the U/S bit at its previous location is
modified to 1. From the IOMMU's perspective, the page table for the
aforementioned IOVA would now appear as follows:

PGD: Entry present with U/S bit set (1) [retrieved from paging cache]
P4D: Entry present with U/S bit set (1) [retrieved from paging cache]
PUD: Entry present with U/S bit set (1) [retrieved from paging cache]
PMD: Entry present with U/S bit set (1) [retrieved from paging cache]
PTE: Entry present with U/S bit set (1) {read from physical memory}

As a result, the device could then potentially access the memory at IOVA
0xffffa866001d5000 with user-mode permission, which was explicitly
disallowed.

Thanks,
baolu

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-10  2:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-04 13:30 [PATCH 1/1] iommu/sva: Invalidate KVA range on kernel TLB flush Lu Baolu
2025-07-04 13:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-05  3:50   ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-05  9:06 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-07-08  5:42 ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-08 12:27   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-08 14:06     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-09  1:25       ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-09 15:51 ` Jacob Pan
2025-07-09 16:27   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-09 18:15     ` Jacob Pan
2025-07-09 18:22       ` Dave Hansen
2025-07-09 18:44         ` Jacob Pan
2025-07-09 18:54           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-14 12:39         ` David Laight
2025-07-14 13:19           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-07-14 14:50             ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-15  0:05               ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-15  1:19               ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-10  2:57       ` Baolu Lu [this message]
2025-07-10 15:28         ` Jacob Pan
2025-07-10 15:35           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-11 14:36           ` Dave Hansen

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