From: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
Cc: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Vasant Hegde <vasant.hegde@amd.com>,
Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
iommu@lists.linux.dev, security@kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] iommu/sva: Invalidate KVA range on kernel TLB flush
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 09:19:07 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9d289b97-570d-49af-aa6e-acc98df41015@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aHUZIVbLV9KAoZ3H@kernel.org>
On 7/14/25 22:50, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 03:19:17PM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 01:39:20PM +0100, David Laight wrote:
>>> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 11:22:34 -0700
>>> Dave Hansen<dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/9/25 11:15, Jacob Pan wrote:
>>>>>>> Is there a use case where a SVA user can access kernel memory in the
>>>>>>> first place?
>>>>>> No. It should be fully blocked.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Then I don't understand what is the "vulnerability condition" being
>>>>> addressed here. We are talking about KVA range here.
>>>> SVA users can't access kernel memory, but they can compel walks of
>>>> kernel page tables, which the IOMMU caches. The trouble starts if the
>>>> kernel happens to free that page table page and the IOMMU is using the
>>>> cache after the page is freed.
>>>>
>>>> That was covered in the changelog, but I guess it could be made a bit
>>>> more succinct.
> But does this really mean that every flush_tlb_kernel_range() should flush
> the IOMMU page tables as well? AFAIU, set_memory flushes TLB even when bits
> in pte change and it seems like an overkill...
As far as I can see, only the next-level page table pointer in the
middle-level entry matters. SVA is not allowed to access kernel
addresses, which has been ensured by the U/S bit in the leaf PTEs, so
other bit changes don't matter here.
Thanks,
baolu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-15 1:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-04 13:30 [PATCH 1/1] iommu/sva: Invalidate KVA range on kernel TLB flush Lu Baolu
2025-07-04 13:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-05 3:50 ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-05 9:06 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-07-08 5:42 ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-08 12:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-08 14:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-09 1:25 ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-09 15:51 ` Jacob Pan
2025-07-09 16:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-09 18:15 ` Jacob Pan
2025-07-09 18:22 ` Dave Hansen
2025-07-09 18:44 ` Jacob Pan
2025-07-09 18:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-14 12:39 ` David Laight
2025-07-14 13:19 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-07-14 14:50 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-15 0:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-15 1:19 ` Baolu Lu [this message]
2025-07-10 2:57 ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-10 15:28 ` Jacob Pan
2025-07-10 15:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-11 14:36 ` Dave Hansen
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