From: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
Cc: linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, "Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
"Shaopeng Tan" <tan.shaopeng@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"Maciej Wieczór-Retman" <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>,
"Fenghua Yu" <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 24/24] selftests/resctrl: Ignore failures from L2 CAT test with <= 2 bits
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2023 12:24:37 +0200 (EET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6426a6be-5e92-6c5d-7025-6308c1f3c24@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a5160a37-7778-49ff-8c25-92846d42e87e@intel.com>
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On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> On 10/24/2023 2:26 AM, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> > L2 CAT test with low number of bits tends to occasionally fail because
> > of what seems random variation. The margin is quite small to begin with
> > for <= 2 bits in CBM. At times, the result can even become negative.
> > While it would be possible to allow negative values for those cases, it
> > would be more confusing to user.
> >
> > Ignore failures from the tests where <= 2 were used to avoid false
> > negative results.
> >
>
> I think the core message is that 2 or fewer bits should not be used. Instead
> of running the test and ignoring the results the test should perhaps just not
> be run.
I considered that but it often does work so it felt shame to now present
them when they're successful. Then I just had to decide how to deal with
the cases where they failed.
Also, if I make it to not run down to 1 bit, those numbers will never ever
be seen by anyone. It doesn't say 2 and 1 bit results don't contain any
information to a human reader who is able to do more informed decisions
whether something is truly working or not. We could, hypothetically, have
a HW issue one day which makes 1-bit L2 mask to misbehave and if the
number is never seen by anyone, it's extremely unlikely to be caught
easily.
They are just reliable enough for simple automated threshold currently.
Maybe something else than average value would be, it would need to be
explored but I suspect also the memory address of the buffer might affect
the value, with L3 it definitely should because of how the things work but
I don't know if that holds for L2 too. I have earlier tried playing with
the buffer addresses with L3 but as I didn't immediately yield positive
outcome to guard against outliers, I postponed that investigation (e.g.,
my alloc pattern might have been too straightforward and didn't provide
enough entropy into the buffer start address because I just alloc'ed n x
buf_size buffers back-to-back).
But I don't have very strong opinion on this so if you prefer I just stop
at 3 bits, I can change it?
--
i.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-03 10:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-24 9:26 [PATCH 00/24] selftests/resctrl: CAT test improvements & generalized test framework Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 01/24] selftests/resctrl: Split fill_buf to allow tests finer-grained control Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 11:24 ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-11-02 17:46 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 02/24] selftests/resctrl: Refactor fill_buf functions Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 11:32 ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-10-27 11:41 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 03/24] selftests/resctrl: Refactor get_cbm_mask() Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 11:39 ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-11-02 17:47 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03 12:09 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 04/24] selftests/resctrl: Mark get_cache_size() cache_type const Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 05/24] selftests/resctrl: Create cache_size() helper Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:47 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03 8:53 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-03 22:49 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 06/24] selftests/resctrl: Exclude shareable bits from schemata in CAT test Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:48 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 07/24] selftests/resctrl: Split measure_cache_vals() function Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:48 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 08/24] selftests/resctrl: Split show_cache_info() to test specific and generic parts Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:48 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 09/24] selftests/resctrl: Remove unnecessary __u64 -> unsigned long conversion Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:48 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03 9:19 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 10/24] selftests/resctrl: Remove nested calls in perf event handling Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:49 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03 9:45 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 11/24] selftests/resctrl: Consolidate naming of perf event related things Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 12/24] selftests/resctrl: Improve perf init Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 11:45 ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 13/24] selftests/resctrl: Convert perf related globals to locals Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 11:47 ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 14/24] selftests/resctrl: Move cat_val() to cat_test.c and rename to cat_test() Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 11:51 ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-10-27 12:18 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 15/24] selftests/resctrl: Read in less obvious order to defeat prefetch optimizations Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 16/24] selftests/resctrl: Rewrite Cache Allocation Technology (CAT) test Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 12:05 ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
[not found] ` <fb5e1a50-ba7-1ee8-8bf2-bb8b64b27b1@linux.intel.com>
2023-10-31 7:24 ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-11-02 17:51 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03 10:57 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-03 22:50 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 17/24] selftests/resctrl: Create struct for input parameter Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 12:07 ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-11-02 17:51 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03 11:24 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-03 22:50 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-06 9:06 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 18/24] selftests/resctrl: Introduce generalized test framework Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:52 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03 9:54 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-03 22:50 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 19/24] selftests/resctrl: Pass write_schemata() resource instead of test name Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 20/24] selftests/resctrl: Add helper to convert L2/3 to integer Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 12:09 ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 21/24] selftests/resctrl: Get resource id from cache id Ilpo Järvinen
[not found] ` <cb2ctfignowlom7lb2t5zhdgtm4s2jlzlvtumlnvxecwwtjk34@ysgepmgkv6bb>
[not found] ` <ab4c6aa5-ea49-363a-ff7b-2215665f185d@linux.intel.com>
2023-10-31 7:58 ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 22/24] selftests/resctrl: Add test groups and name L3 CAT test L3_CAT Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 23/24] selftests/resctrl: Add L2 CAT test Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:57 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03 10:39 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-03 22:53 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-06 9:53 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-06 17:03 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-06 21:22 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-07 9:33 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-08 16:31 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-10-24 9:26 ` [PATCH 24/24] selftests/resctrl: Ignore failures from L2 CAT test with <= 2 bits Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:57 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03 10:24 ` Ilpo Järvinen [this message]
2023-11-03 22:53 ` Reinette Chatre
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