* [PATCH v2] m68k: Define NR_CPUS
@ 2024-09-23 23:56 Guenter Roeck
2024-09-24 7:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-24 7:47 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Guenter Roeck @ 2024-09-23 23:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-m68k
Cc: linux-kernel, Guenter Roeck, David Hildenbrand, Andrew Morton,
Geert Uytterhoeven
SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS depends on "NR_CPUS >= 4". Unfortunately, that evaluates
to true if there is no NR_CPUS configuration option. This results in
CONFIG_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS=y for mac_defconfig. This in turn causes the m68k
"q800" and "virt" machines to crash in qemu if debugging options are
enabled.
Making CONFIG_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS dependent on the existence of NR_CPUS
does not work since a dependency on the existence of a numeric Kconfig
entry always evaluates to false. Example:
config HAVE_NO_NR_CPUS
def_bool y
depends on !NR_CPUS
After adding this to a Kconfig file, "make defconfig" includes:
$ grep NR_CPUS .config
CONFIG_NR_CPUS=64
CONFIG_HAVE_NO_NR_CPUS=y
Define NR_CPUS for m68k instead to solve the problem.
Fixes: 394290cba966 ("mm: turn USE_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS / USE_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS into Kconfig options")
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Acked-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
---
v2: Instead of trying to make SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS depend on the
existence of NR_CPUS, define NR_CPUS for m68k.
v1: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/202409240546.SJwj9tUj-lkp@intel.com/T/#t
arch/m68k/Kconfig | 4 ++++
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
diff --git a/arch/m68k/Kconfig b/arch/m68k/Kconfig
index cc26df907bfe..53e4058d2e3c 100644
--- a/arch/m68k/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/m68k/Kconfig
@@ -76,6 +76,10 @@ config PGTABLE_LEVELS
default 2 if SUN3 || COLDFIRE
default 3
+config NR_CPUS
+ int
+ default "1"
+
config MMU
bool "MMU-based Paged Memory Management Support"
default y
--
2.45.2
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* Re: [PATCH v2] m68k: Define NR_CPUS
2024-09-23 23:56 [PATCH v2] m68k: Define NR_CPUS Guenter Roeck
@ 2024-09-24 7:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-24 7:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-09-24 7:47 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: David Hildenbrand @ 2024-09-24 7:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Guenter Roeck, linux-m68k; +Cc: linux-kernel, Andrew Morton, Geert Uytterhoeven
On 24.09.24 01:56, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS depends on "NR_CPUS >= 4". Unfortunately, that evaluates
> to true if there is no NR_CPUS configuration option. This results in
> CONFIG_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS=y for mac_defconfig. This in turn causes the m68k
> "q800" and "virt" machines to crash in qemu if debugging options are
> enabled.
>
> Making CONFIG_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS dependent on the existence of NR_CPUS
> does not work since a dependency on the existence of a numeric Kconfig
> entry always evaluates to false. Example:
>
> config HAVE_NO_NR_CPUS
> def_bool y
> depends on !NR_CPUS
>
> After adding this to a Kconfig file, "make defconfig" includes:
> $ grep NR_CPUS .config
> CONFIG_NR_CPUS=64
> CONFIG_HAVE_NO_NR_CPUS=y
>
> Define NR_CPUS for m68k instead to solve the problem.
>
> Fixes: 394290cba966 ("mm: turn USE_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS / USE_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS into Kconfig options")
> Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
> Acked-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> Signed-off-by: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
> ---
> v2: Instead of trying to make SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS depend on the
> existence of NR_CPUS, define NR_CPUS for m68k.
Okay, looks like we're cleaning up CONFIG_NR_CPUS for good.
I'm back from conference travel tomorrow; I'll then throw in the following
into cross compilers and fixup any other arch that needs attention:
diff --git a/include/linux/threads.h b/include/linux/threads.h
index 1674a471b0b4..e31715e6746b 100644
--- a/include/linux/threads.h
+++ b/include/linux/threads.h
@@ -13,8 +13,7 @@
* bit of memory. Use nr_cpu_ids instead of this except for static bitmaps.
*/
#ifndef CONFIG_NR_CPUS
-/* FIXME: This should be fixed in the arch's Kconfig */
-#define CONFIG_NR_CPUS 1
+#error "CONFIG_NR_CPUS not defined"
#endif
/* Places which use this should consider cpumask_var_t. */
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
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* Re: [PATCH v2] m68k: Define NR_CPUS
2024-09-23 23:56 [PATCH v2] m68k: Define NR_CPUS Guenter Roeck
2024-09-24 7:33 ` David Hildenbrand
@ 2024-09-24 7:47 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-09-24 14:09 ` Guenter Roeck
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Geert Uytterhoeven @ 2024-09-24 7:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Guenter Roeck; +Cc: linux-m68k, linux-kernel, David Hildenbrand, Andrew Morton
Hi Günter,
Thanks for your patch!
On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 1:56 AM Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
> SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS depends on "NR_CPUS >= 4". Unfortunately, that evaluates
> to true if there is no NR_CPUS configuration option. This results in
> CONFIG_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS=y for mac_defconfig. This in turn causes the m68k
> "q800" and "virt" machines to crash in qemu if debugging options are
> enabled.
>
> Making CONFIG_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS dependent on the existence of NR_CPUS
> does not work since a dependency on the existence of a numeric Kconfig
> entry always evaluates to false. Example:
>
> config HAVE_NO_NR_CPUS
> def_bool y
> depends on !NR_CPUS
>
> After adding this to a Kconfig file, "make defconfig" includes:
> $ grep NR_CPUS .config
> CONFIG_NR_CPUS=64
> CONFIG_HAVE_NO_NR_CPUS=y
>
> Define NR_CPUS for m68k instead to solve the problem.
>
> Fixes: 394290cba966 ("mm: turn USE_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS / USE_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS into Kconfig options")
> Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
> Acked-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
I think it's a bit premature to add David's tag, as v2 is completely
different from v1.
> Signed-off-by: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
> ---
> v2: Instead of trying to make SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS depend on the
> existence of NR_CPUS, define NR_CPUS for m68k.
>
> v1: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/202409240546.SJwj9tUj-lkp@intel.com/T/#t
I replied on v1 why I think this is not the right solution.
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds
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* Re: [PATCH v2] m68k: Define NR_CPUS
2024-09-24 7:33 ` David Hildenbrand
@ 2024-09-24 7:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-09-24 8:07 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-24 14:04 ` Guenter Roeck
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Geert Uytterhoeven @ 2024-09-24 7:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Hildenbrand; +Cc: Guenter Roeck, linux-m68k, linux-kernel, Andrew Morton
Hi David,
On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 9:34 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 24.09.24 01:56, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > v2: Instead of trying to make SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS depend on the
> > existence of NR_CPUS, define NR_CPUS for m68k.
>
> Okay, looks like we're cleaning up CONFIG_NR_CPUS for good.
>
> I'm back from conference travel tomorrow; I'll then throw in the following
> into cross compilers and fixup any other arch that needs attention:
>
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/threads.h b/include/linux/threads.h
> index 1674a471b0b4..e31715e6746b 100644
> --- a/include/linux/threads.h
> +++ b/include/linux/threads.h
> @@ -13,8 +13,7 @@
> * bit of memory. Use nr_cpu_ids instead of this except for static bitmaps.
> */
> #ifndef CONFIG_NR_CPUS
> -/* FIXME: This should be fixed in the arch's Kconfig */
> -#define CONFIG_NR_CPUS 1
> +#error "CONFIG_NR_CPUS not defined"
> #endif
>
> /* Places which use this should consider cpumask_var_t. */
This is gonna trigger on almost all architectures if CONFIG_SMP=n.
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds
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* Re: [PATCH v2] m68k: Define NR_CPUS
2024-09-24 7:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
@ 2024-09-24 8:07 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-24 9:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-24 14:04 ` Guenter Roeck
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: David Hildenbrand @ 2024-09-24 8:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Geert Uytterhoeven; +Cc: Guenter Roeck, linux-m68k, linux-kernel, Andrew Morton
On 24.09.24 09:48, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 9:34 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 24.09.24 01:56, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>> v2: Instead of trying to make SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS depend on the
>>> existence of NR_CPUS, define NR_CPUS for m68k.
>>
>> Okay, looks like we're cleaning up CONFIG_NR_CPUS for good.
>>
>> I'm back from conference travel tomorrow; I'll then throw in the following
>> into cross compilers and fixup any other arch that needs attention:
>>
>>
>> diff --git a/include/linux/threads.h b/include/linux/threads.h
>> index 1674a471b0b4..e31715e6746b 100644
>> --- a/include/linux/threads.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/threads.h
>> @@ -13,8 +13,7 @@
>> * bit of memory. Use nr_cpu_ids instead of this except for static bitmaps.
>> */
>> #ifndef CONFIG_NR_CPUS
>> -/* FIXME: This should be fixed in the arch's Kconfig */
>> -#define CONFIG_NR_CPUS 1
>> +#error "CONFIG_NR_CPUS not defined"
>> #endif
>>
>> /* Places which use this should consider cpumask_var_t. */
>
> This is gonna trigger on almost all architectures if CONFIG_SMP=n.
Right, probably it's not as easy as:
diff --git a/mm/Kconfig b/mm/Kconfig
index 09aebca1cae3..b9566312fc9c 100644
--- a/mm/Kconfig
+++ b/mm/Kconfig
@@ -581,6 +581,13 @@ endif # MEMORY_HOTPLUG
config ARCH_MHP_MEMMAP_ON_MEMORY_ENABLE
bool
+if !SMP
+
+config NR_CPUS
+ default 1
+
+endif # !SMP
+
# Heavily threaded applications may benefit from splitting the mm-wide
# page_table_lock, so that faults on different parts of the user address
# space can be handled with less contention: split it at this NR_CPUS.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
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* Re: [PATCH v2] m68k: Define NR_CPUS
2024-09-24 8:07 ` David Hildenbrand
@ 2024-09-24 9:32 ` David Hildenbrand
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: David Hildenbrand @ 2024-09-24 9:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Geert Uytterhoeven; +Cc: Guenter Roeck, linux-m68k, linux-kernel, Andrew Morton
On 24.09.24 10:07, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 24.09.24 09:48, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 9:34 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> On 24.09.24 01:56, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>> v2: Instead of trying to make SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS depend on the
>>>> existence of NR_CPUS, define NR_CPUS for m68k.
>>>
>>> Okay, looks like we're cleaning up CONFIG_NR_CPUS for good.
>>>
>>> I'm back from conference travel tomorrow; I'll then throw in the following
>>> into cross compilers and fixup any other arch that needs attention:
>>>
>>>
>>> diff --git a/include/linux/threads.h b/include/linux/threads.h
>>> index 1674a471b0b4..e31715e6746b 100644
>>> --- a/include/linux/threads.h
>>> +++ b/include/linux/threads.h
>>> @@ -13,8 +13,7 @@
>>> * bit of memory. Use nr_cpu_ids instead of this except for static bitmaps.
>>> */
>>> #ifndef CONFIG_NR_CPUS
>>> -/* FIXME: This should be fixed in the arch's Kconfig */
>>> -#define CONFIG_NR_CPUS 1
>>> +#error "CONFIG_NR_CPUS not defined"
>>> #endif
>>>
>>> /* Places which use this should consider cpumask_var_t. */
>>
>> This is gonna trigger on almost all architectures if CONFIG_SMP=n.
>
> Right, probably it's not as easy as:
Yeah, as assumed, Kconfig behaves weird if a symbol is not around. Let
me think about this the upcoming weeks. Making split locks depend on SMP
should make it work for now.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
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* Re: [PATCH v2] m68k: Define NR_CPUS
2024-09-24 7:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-09-24 8:07 ` David Hildenbrand
@ 2024-09-24 14:04 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-09-24 14:09 ` David Hildenbrand
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Guenter Roeck @ 2024-09-24 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Geert Uytterhoeven, David Hildenbrand
Cc: linux-m68k, linux-kernel, Andrew Morton
On 9/24/24 00:48, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 9:34 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 24.09.24 01:56, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>> v2: Instead of trying to make SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS depend on the
>>> existence of NR_CPUS, define NR_CPUS for m68k.
>>
>> Okay, looks like we're cleaning up CONFIG_NR_CPUS for good.
>>
>> I'm back from conference travel tomorrow; I'll then throw in the following
>> into cross compilers and fixup any other arch that needs attention:
>>
>>
>> diff --git a/include/linux/threads.h b/include/linux/threads.h
>> index 1674a471b0b4..e31715e6746b 100644
>> --- a/include/linux/threads.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/threads.h
>> @@ -13,8 +13,7 @@
>> * bit of memory. Use nr_cpu_ids instead of this except for static bitmaps.
>> */
>> #ifndef CONFIG_NR_CPUS
>> -/* FIXME: This should be fixed in the arch's Kconfig */
>> -#define CONFIG_NR_CPUS 1
>> +#error "CONFIG_NR_CPUS not defined"
>> #endif
>>
>> /* Places which use this should consider cpumask_var_t. */
>
> This is gonna trigger on almost all architectures if CONFIG_SMP=n.
>
Guess that means that my patch won't work either. Any better ideas ?
Guenter
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* Re: [PATCH v2] m68k: Define NR_CPUS
2024-09-24 7:47 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
@ 2024-09-24 14:09 ` Guenter Roeck
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Guenter Roeck @ 2024-09-24 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Geert Uytterhoeven
Cc: linux-m68k, linux-kernel, David Hildenbrand, Andrew Morton
On 9/24/24 00:47, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hi Günter,
>
> Thanks for your patch!
>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 1:56 AM Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
>> SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS depends on "NR_CPUS >= 4". Unfortunately, that evaluates
>> to true if there is no NR_CPUS configuration option. This results in
>> CONFIG_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS=y for mac_defconfig. This in turn causes the m68k
>> "q800" and "virt" machines to crash in qemu if debugging options are
>> enabled.
>>
>> Making CONFIG_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS dependent on the existence of NR_CPUS
>> does not work since a dependency on the existence of a numeric Kconfig
>> entry always evaluates to false. Example:
>>
>> config HAVE_NO_NR_CPUS
>> def_bool y
>> depends on !NR_CPUS
>>
>> After adding this to a Kconfig file, "make defconfig" includes:
>> $ grep NR_CPUS .config
>> CONFIG_NR_CPUS=64
>> CONFIG_HAVE_NO_NR_CPUS=y
>>
>> Define NR_CPUS for m68k instead to solve the problem.
>>
>> Fixes: 394290cba966 ("mm: turn USE_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS / USE_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS into Kconfig options")
>> Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
>> Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
>> Acked-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>
> I think it's a bit premature to add David's tag, as v2 is completely
> different from v1.
>
Ups, sorry, that was an unintentional carryover. Anyway, looks like it
may need v3 anyway.
Guenter
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* Re: [PATCH v2] m68k: Define NR_CPUS
2024-09-24 14:04 ` Guenter Roeck
@ 2024-09-24 14:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-24 19:23 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: David Hildenbrand @ 2024-09-24 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Guenter Roeck, Geert Uytterhoeven; +Cc: linux-m68k, linux-kernel, Andrew Morton
On 24.09.24 16:04, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On 9/24/24 00:48, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 9:34 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> On 24.09.24 01:56, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>> v2: Instead of trying to make SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS depend on the
>>>> existence of NR_CPUS, define NR_CPUS for m68k.
>>>
>>> Okay, looks like we're cleaning up CONFIG_NR_CPUS for good.
>>>
>>> I'm back from conference travel tomorrow; I'll then throw in the following
>>> into cross compilers and fixup any other arch that needs attention:
>>>
>>>
>>> diff --git a/include/linux/threads.h b/include/linux/threads.h
>>> index 1674a471b0b4..e31715e6746b 100644
>>> --- a/include/linux/threads.h
>>> +++ b/include/linux/threads.h
>>> @@ -13,8 +13,7 @@
>>> * bit of memory. Use nr_cpu_ids instead of this except for static bitmaps.
>>> */
>>> #ifndef CONFIG_NR_CPUS
>>> -/* FIXME: This should be fixed in the arch's Kconfig */
>>> -#define CONFIG_NR_CPUS 1
>>> +#error "CONFIG_NR_CPUS not defined"
>>> #endif
>>>
>>> /* Places which use this should consider cpumask_var_t. */
>>
>> This is gonna trigger on almost all architectures if CONFIG_SMP=n.
>>
>
> Guess that means that my patch won't work either. Any better ideas ?
As discussed,
diff --git a/mm/Kconfig b/mm/Kconfig
index 09aebca1cae3..4c9f5ea13271 100644
--- a/mm/Kconfig
+++ b/mm/Kconfig
@@ -595,6 +595,7 @@ config ARCH_MHP_MEMMAP_ON_MEMORY_ENABLE
config SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS
def_bool y
depends on MMU
+ depends on SMP
depends on NR_CPUS >= 4
depends on !ARM || CPU_CACHE_VIPT
depends on !PARISC || PA20
Might work for the time being.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
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* Re: [PATCH v2] m68k: Define NR_CPUS
2024-09-24 14:09 ` David Hildenbrand
@ 2024-09-24 19:23 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Maciej W. Rozycki @ 2024-09-24 19:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Hildenbrand
Cc: Guenter Roeck, Geert Uytterhoeven, linux-m68k, linux-kernel,
Andrew Morton
On Tue, 24 Sep 2024, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> diff --git a/mm/Kconfig b/mm/Kconfig
> index 09aebca1cae3..4c9f5ea13271 100644
> --- a/mm/Kconfig
> +++ b/mm/Kconfig
> @@ -595,6 +595,7 @@ config ARCH_MHP_MEMMAP_ON_MEMORY_ENABLE
> config SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS
> def_bool y
> depends on MMU
> + depends on SMP
> depends on NR_CPUS >= 4
I think it might be more intuitive if written as:
depends on SMP && NR_CPUS >= 4
(with a note in the change description to the effect that NR_CPUS will
have been unset and the condition won't work as expected unless SMP).
FWIW,
Maciej
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