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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
Cc: Daniel Scally <djrscally@gmail.com>, Kate Hsuan <hpa@redhat.com>,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	libcamera-devel@lists.libcamera.org,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Surface Go VCM type (was: Need to pass acpi_enforce_resources=lax on the Surface Go (version1))
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 17:51:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YY07+u1Rim5ogkGt@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4c7b9d72-4634-ea1d-5fff-bf17c3834b72@redhat.com>

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 04:23:38PM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> On 11/11/21 12:18, Daniel Scally wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> >>> One problem I'm experiencing
> >>> is that the focus position I set isn't maintained; it holds for a couple
> >>> of seconds and then resets to the "normal" focus...this happens when the
> >>> .close() callback for the driver is called, which happens right after
> >>> the control value is applied. All the other VCM drivers in the kernel
> >>> power down on .close() so I did the same>
> >> Right, I believe that this is fine though, we expect people to use
> >> libcamera with this and once libcamera gets autofocus support, then
> >> I would expect libcamera to keep the fd open the entire time while
> >> streaming.
> > 
> > 
> > OK - as long as that's how it works then I agree that this is fine as is
> > yes.
> 
> So I've just picked up an old project of mine, called gtk-v4l which
> is a nice simply v4l2 controls applet and patches it up to also
> work on v4l-subdevs:
> 
> https://github.com/jwrdegoede/gtk-v4l/
> 
> So now you can run:
> 
> sudo gtk-v4l -d /dev/v4l-subdev8
> 
> And it will give you a slider to control the focus; and as
> a bonus it keeps the v4l-subdev open, so no more runtime-pm
> issue :)
> 
> >> What is necessary is some way for libcamera to:
> >>
> >> 1. See if there is a VCM which belongs to the sensor; and
> >> 2. If there is a VCM figure out which v4l2-subdev it is.
> >>
> >> Also see this email thread, where Hans Verkuil came to the
> >> conclusion that this info is currently missing from the MC
> >> representation (link is to the conclusion):
> >>
> >> https://lists.libcamera.org/pipermail/libcamera-devel/2021-October/026144.html
> > 
> > 
> > Yeah I read through that thread too, and had a brief chat with Laurent
> > about it. My plan was to add a new type of link called an "ancillary
> > link" between two entities, and automatically create those in
> > match_notify() based on the function field of the matching entities, and
> > expose them as part of the media graph. I've started working on that but
> > not progressed far enough to share anything.
> 
> Sounds good.
> 
> > Libcamera would need
> > updating with support for that too though.
> 
> Right I think libcamera will need updating no matter what, first we
> need to comeup with a userspace API for this.
> 
> Although I guess it would be good to also write libcamera patches
> once the kernel patches are ready, but not yet merged, to make
> sure the API is usable without problems by libcamera.

I strongly agree with this. We're moving towards mandating a libcamera
implementation to get new APIs merged in the kernel.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-11 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <e2312277-f967-7d3f-5ce9-fbb197d35fd6@gmail.com>
2021-10-29 11:50 ` Fwd: Surface Go VCM type (was: Need to pass acpi_enforce_resources=lax on the Surface Go (version1)) Daniel Scally
2021-11-01 15:55   ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-01 15:59     ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-01 23:26     ` Daniel Scally
2021-11-01 16:02   ` Hans de Goede
2021-11-01 19:18     ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-01 19:51       ` Hans de Goede
2021-11-01 23:43     ` Daniel Scally
2021-11-04 14:49       ` Hans de Goede
2021-11-04 18:14         ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-06 14:12           ` Hans de Goede
2021-11-06 18:39             ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-04 23:20         ` Daniel Scally
2021-11-08 13:12       ` Hans de Goede
2021-11-08 14:12         ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-16  9:54           ` Hans de Goede
2021-11-16 12:26             ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-09  0:43         ` Daniel Scally
2021-11-09 12:09           ` Daniel Scally
2021-11-09 16:02             ` Hans de Goede
2021-11-09 16:35               ` Daniel Scally
2021-11-10  0:01                 ` Daniel Scally
2021-11-10  8:15                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-11 10:35                   ` Hans de Goede
2021-11-11 11:18                     ` Daniel Scally
2021-11-11 15:23                       ` Hans de Goede
2021-11-11 15:51                         ` Dave Stevenson
2021-11-11 16:50                           ` Hans de Goede
2021-11-11 19:30                             ` Dave Stevenson
2021-11-11 22:04                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-11-12 10:32                                 ` Dave Stevenson
2021-11-12 10:46                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-11-12 11:37                                     ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-15 13:33                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-11-15 15:03                                         ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-12 11:43                                     ` Dave Stevenson
2021-11-15 13:21                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-11-12 12:23                                     ` Sakari Ailus
2021-11-15 12:00                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-11-12 17:51                                     ` [libcamera-devel] " Kieran Bingham
2021-11-15 13:08                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-11-11 15:51                         ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2021-11-23 12:10                         ` Daniel Scally
2021-11-23 19:02                           ` Hans de Goede
2021-11-11 15:59                 ` Hans de Goede
2021-11-15 23:43                   ` Daniel Scally

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