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From: AngeloGioacchino Del Regno <angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>
To: "Alexandre Mergnat" <amergnat@baylibre.com>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	"Liam Girdwood" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Matthias Brugger" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	"Lee Jones" <lee@kernel.org>, "Flora Fu" <flora.fu@mediatek.com>,
	"Jaroslav Kysela" <perex@perex.cz>,
	"Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.com>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/18] ASoC: dt-bindings: mediatek,mt8365-afe: Add audio afe document
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 11:25:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bb86b986-ecd7-416a-9036-082a3cff2176@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <66e527af-0253-4565-9822-04ed84e5817c@baylibre.com>

Il 28/02/24 10:57, Alexandre Mergnat ha scritto:
> I think I got it.
> 
> - mediatek,i2s-shared-clock: will be remove from DT
> - mediatek,dmic-iir-on: will be remove from DT
> - mediatek,dmic-irr-mode: will be remove from DT
> - mediatek,dmic-two-wire-mode: rephrase description needed
> 
> I've did abstraction (despite me) that IIR settings are runtime config because the 
> driver implement its usage like a one-time-setup -_-'
> 

Yes but just one more thing I just noticed: `mediatek,dmic-two-wire-mode` - can we
please rename this to `mediatek,dmic-mode` ?

That'd be for consistency check mt6359.yaml and mt6358.txt

   mediatek,dmic-mode:
     $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
     description: |
       Indicates how many data pins are used to transmit two channels of PDM
       signal. 0 means two wires, 1 means one wire. Default value is 0.
     enum:
       - 0 # one wire
       - 1 # two wires

Cheers,
Angelo



> Thanks for the explanations, that help.
> 
> Regards,
> Alexandre
> 
> On 28/02/2024 08:28, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 27/02/2024 16:18, Alexandre Mergnat wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +    type: boolean
>>>>> +
>>>>> +  mediatek,dmic-iir-on:
>>>>> +    description:
>>>>> +      Boolean which specifies whether the DMIC IIR is enabled.
>>>>> +      If this property is not present the IIR is disabled.
>>>>
>>>> "is enabled" or "enable it"?
>>>>
>>>> You described the desired Linux feature or behavior, not the actual
>>>> hardware. The bindings are about the latter, so instead you need to
>>>> rephrase the property and its description to match actual hardware
>>>> capabilities/features/configuration etc.
>>>
>>> I will rephrase:
>>>
>>> True to enable the Infinite Impulse Response (IIR) filter
>>> on the digital microphone inputs.
>>
>> I still don't know why this is DT-specific. You still tell driver what
>> to do...
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> +    type: boolean
>>>>> +
>>>>> +  mediatek,dmic-irr-mode:
>>>>> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
>>>>> +    description:
>>>>> +      Selects stop band of IIR DC-removal filter.
>>>>> +      0 = Software programmable custom coeff loaded by the driver.
>>>>
>>>> Bindings are for hardware, not drivers. Why is this a property of board DTS?
>>>
>>> Actually this is a hardware feature. Mode 1 t 5 are predefined filters.
>>> Mode 0, the HW will read some "coef filter registers" to setup the
>>> custom filter. the "coef filter regs" are written by the driver.
>>> Currently the coef values are hardcoded in the driver.
>>
>> You don't get the point. Just because you choose some mode it does not
>> mean is hardware feature for DT. Sampling frequency done by hardware is
>> also "hardware feature", but do you put it to DT? No.
>>
>> Explain why this is board-specific, not runtime configuration.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> +      1 = 5Hz if 48KHz mode.
>>>>> +      2 = 10Hz if 48KHz mode.
>>>>> +      3 = 25Hz if 48KHz mode.
>>>>> +      4 = 50Hz if 48KHz mode.
>>>>> +      5 = 65Hz if 48KHz mode.
>>>>
>>>> Use proper unit suffixes - hz.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> +    enum:
>>>>> +      - 0
>>>>> +      - 1
>>>>> +      - 2
>>>>> +      - 3
>>>>> +      - 4
>>>>> +      - 5
>>>>> +
>>>>> +  mediatek,dmic-two-wire-mode:
>>>>> +    description:
>>>>> +      Boolean which turns on digital microphone for two wire mode.
>>>>> +      If this property is not present the two wire mode is disabled.
>>>>
>>>> This looks like hardware property, but the naming looks like SW. Again
>>>> you instruct what driver should do. Standard disclaimer:
>>>>
>>>> You described the desired Linux feature or behavior, not the actual
>>>> hardware. The bindings are about the latter, so instead you need to
>>>> rephrase the property and its description to match actual hardware
>>>> capabilities/features/configuration etc.
>>>
>>> Actually this is a hardware feature. This is ALL I have to describe the
>>> HW behavior from the datasheet:
>>> "
>>> bit name: ul_dmic_two_wire_ctl
>>> Turns on digital microphone for two wire mode.
>>> 0: Turn off
>>> 1: Turn on
>>
>> That's rather suggestion it is not a description of hardware but you
>> want driver to do something...
>>
>>> "
>>>
>>> On the board schematic, SoC and DMIC and linked by 3 pins:
>>> - clk
>>> - data0
>>> - data1
>>>
>>> IMHO, "two-wire-mode" means the HW use 2 pins for data, and the SoC must
>>> be aware of that by reading the register value written by the driver,
>>> using the value found in the DTS.
>>
>> So this depends on type of connection of DMIC? Then rephrase description
>> property like this.
>>
>>>
>>> I don't get why you think it wouldn't be hardware behavior.
>>
>> Because telling what to write to the registers which is typical sign of
>> people stuffing to DT whatever they need to configure the hardware.
>>
>>>
>>> Rephrase description:
>>> "True to enable the two wire mode of the digital microphone"
>>> Is it better ?
>>
>> No, because again you describe some sort of mode. If you insist on such
>> description, then my answer is: it's runtime, so not suitable for DT.
>> Instead describe what is the hardware problem/configuration, e.g. "DMIC
>> is connected with only CLK and DATA0, without third pin" etc.
>>
>>>
>>> About the property name, "mediatek,dmic-two-wire-ctl" sound better for you ?
>>
>> To sound more like a register less like physical characteristic of the
>> board? No. The name can stay, I don't have better ideas.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof
>>
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-28 10:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-26 14:01 [PATCH 00/18] Add audio support for the MediaTek Genio 350-evk board Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 01/18] ASoC: dt-bindings: mediatek,mt8365-afe: Add audio afe document Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-27  9:01   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-27 15:18     ` Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-28  7:28       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-28  9:57         ` Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-28 10:25           ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno [this message]
2024-02-28 11:48             ` Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-28 12:09             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 02/18] ASoC: dt-bindings: mediatek,mt8365-mt6357: Add audio sound card document Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-26 15:30   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2024-02-27 10:23     ` Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-27 10:31       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-27 12:38       ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2024-02-28  9:18         ` Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-27  9:06   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 03/18] dt-bindings: mfd: mediatek: Add codec property for MT6357 PMIC Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-27  9:08   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 04/18] ASoC: mediatek: mt8365: Add common header Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 05/18] SoC: mediatek: mt8365: support audio clock control Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 06/18] ASoC: mediatek: mt8365: Add I2S DAI support Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 07/18] ASoC: mediatek: mt8365: Add ADDA " Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 08/18] ASoC: mediatek: mt8365: Add DMIC " Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-27  9:10   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 09/18] ASoC: mediatek: mt8365: Add PCM " Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 10/18] ASoc: mediatek: mt8365: Add a specific soundcard for EVK amergnat
2024-02-26 15:10   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2024-02-27  8:43   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 11/18] ASoC: mediatek: mt8365: Add platform driver Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-27  8:50   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 12/18] ASoC: codecs: mt6357: add MT6357 codec amergnat
2024-02-26 15:25   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2024-03-12 14:50     ` Alexandre Mergnat
2024-03-12 14:54       ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2024-02-26 16:09   ` Mark Brown
2024-03-12 18:03     ` Alexandre Mergnat
2024-03-13 17:23       ` Mark Brown
2024-03-15 11:01         ` Alexandre Mergnat
2024-03-15 14:30           ` Mark Brown
2024-03-15 15:05             ` Alexandre Mergnat
2024-03-15 15:15               ` Mark Brown
2024-03-15 17:36                 ` Alexandre Mergnat
2024-03-15 18:09                   ` Mark Brown
2024-03-13 17:11     ` Alexandre Mergnat
2024-03-13 17:24       ` Mark Brown
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 13/18] mfd: mt6397-core: register mt6357 sound codec amergnat
2024-02-26 15:26   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2024-02-29 17:45   ` (subset) " Lee Jones
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 14/18] ASoC: mediatek: Add MT8365 support Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 15/18] arm64: defconfig: enable mt8365 sound Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 16/18] arm64: dts: mediatek: add mt6357 audio codec support Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 17/18] arm64: dts: mediatek: add afe support for mt8365 SoC Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 18/18] arm64: dts: mediatek: add audio support for mt8365-evk Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-26 14:54 ` [PATCH 00/18] Add audio support for the MediaTek Genio 350-evk board AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2024-03-28 10:09   ` Alexandre Mergnat
2024-02-27 15:06 ` Mark Brown
2024-03-12  8:58   ` Alexandre Mergnat
2024-03-15 14:38     ` Mark Brown
2024-03-15 15:28       ` Alexandre Mergnat

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