From: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com (Larry McVoy)
To: fisher@sgi.com
Cc: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com, sca@refugee.engr.sgi.com,
carlson@heaven.newport.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com,
fisher@hollywood.engr.sgi.com (William Fisher)
Subject: Re: Getting X on Linux/SGI
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 10:50:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <199706221750.KAA09710@neteng.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
: If the demand for Linux on MIPS chips is comming from the "embedded"
: systems then things sure have changed since the early days of
: MIPS Computer Systems.
I think it is safe to confirm that yes, indeeedy, the market has changed.
: If fact the original VP of embedded system marketing at MIPS was
: Chet Silvestri, now VP of SPARC embedded systems at SUN.
I know Chet, and Chet was real interested in getting some free OS on
embedded SPARC when I was at Sun.
: Hence I would like to here more about larry's definition of
: "embedded systems" because they sure don't sound like any
: that our semiconductor partners sell to.
I think almost 100% of what I would call embedded Linux on MIPS is for
game platforms. What they really want is a full on Unix environment
that they can use for development/debugging. When they get done,
they want to rip out Linux/Unix and run an app on the bare hardware.
They may eventually want to leave a stripped down Linux in there but I
don't see why today.
What they really want is a reasonable development environment and they are
smart enough to realize they get there fastest with Linux.
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From: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com (Larry McVoy)
To: fisher@sgi.com
Cc: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com, sca@refugee.engr.sgi.com,
carlson@heaven.newport.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com,
William Fisher <fisher@hollywood.engr.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: Getting X on Linux/SGI
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 10:50:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <199706221750.KAA09710@neteng.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <19970622175007.3FwZZev446_LygoFWRxn_UIywsJOk--GonitzIDwo3c@z> (raw)
: If the demand for Linux on MIPS chips is comming from the "embedded"
: systems then things sure have changed since the early days of
: MIPS Computer Systems.
I think it is safe to confirm that yes, indeeedy, the market has changed.
: If fact the original VP of embedded system marketing at MIPS was
: Chet Silvestri, now VP of SPARC embedded systems at SUN.
I know Chet, and Chet was real interested in getting some free OS on
embedded SPARC when I was at Sun.
: Hence I would like to here more about larry's definition of
: "embedded systems" because they sure don't sound like any
: that our semiconductor partners sell to.
I think almost 100% of what I would call embedded Linux on MIPS is for
game platforms. What they really want is a full on Unix environment
that they can use for development/debugging. When they get done,
they want to rip out Linux/Unix and run an app on the bare hardware.
They may eventually want to leave a stripped down Linux in there but I
don't see why today.
What they really want is a reasonable development environment and they are
smart enough to realize they get there fastest with Linux.
next reply other threads:[~1997-06-22 18:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1997-06-22 17:50 Larry McVoy [this message]
1997-06-22 17:50 ` Getting X on Linux/SGI Larry McVoy
1997-06-23 19:43 ` Christopher W. Carlson
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1997-06-24 0:55 Steve Alexander
1997-06-22 17:36 Larry McVoy
1997-06-20 21:43 Steve Alexander
1997-06-20 21:43 ` Steve Alexander
1997-06-20 16:45 Larry McVoy
1997-06-20 17:06 ` Todd Shrider
1997-06-20 16:40 Larry McVoy
1997-06-20 16:51 ` Mike Shaver
1997-06-20 16:51 ` Mike Shaver
1997-06-20 16:59 ` richard offer
1997-06-20 8:39 Steve Alexander
1997-06-20 15:22 ` Martin Knoblauch
1997-06-20 7:59 Steve Alexander
1997-06-20 7:59 ` Steve Alexander
1997-06-20 8:16 ` David S. Miller
1997-06-20 7:34 Larry McVoy
1997-06-20 9:55 ` William Fisher
1997-06-20 9:17 ` David S. Miller
1997-06-20 10:12 ` Ralf Baechle
1997-06-20 10:12 ` Ralf Baechle
1997-06-20 20:16 ` Nigel Gamble
1997-06-20 9:55 ` William Fisher
1997-06-20 13:42 ` Todd Shrider
1997-06-20 14:07 ` Ralf Baechle
1997-06-20 14:07 ` Ralf Baechle
1997-06-20 7:21 Steve Alexander
[not found] ` <sca@refugee.engr.sgi.com>
1997-06-20 17:28 ` Christopher W. Carlson
1997-06-23 7:07 ` Martin Knoblauch
1997-06-23 19:31 ` Christopher W. Carlson
1997-06-18 23:16 Larry McVoy
1997-06-18 23:42 ` Nigel Gamble
[not found] ` <nigel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com>
1997-06-19 15:46 ` Christopher W. Carlson
1997-06-19 6:40 ` Ralf Baechle
1997-06-19 6:40 ` Ralf Baechle
[not found] <199706181641.JAA05598@darwin.esd.sgi.com>
1997-06-18 19:41 ` John Chen
1997-06-18 19:41 ` John Chen
1997-06-18 19:56 ` David S. Miller
1997-06-18 20:15 ` Alex deVries
1997-06-19 20:01 ` William J. Earl
1997-06-18 0:00 Good news: no more begging for HW John Wiederhirn
1997-06-18 0:34 ` Getting X on Linux/SGI Ariel Faigon
1997-06-18 0:34 ` Ariel Faigon
1997-06-18 16:28 ` Christopher W. Carlson
1997-06-18 19:30 ` Nigel Gamble
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