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* new to sgi linux
@ 1998-03-27 20:25 Dong Liu
  1998-03-27 21:05 ` ralf
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Dong Liu @ 1998-03-27 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux

Hello,

I'm new to sgi linux, just got a spare Indy :=), can some one help me on this.

According the linux sgi FAQ on http://www.linux.sgi.com, I download
vmlinux-970916-efs and the small root fs. When I boot it using bootp,
I get 

Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000000,
epc == 800cbfdc, ra == 800cbfbc

right after linux kernel displayed

eth0: SGI Seeq8003 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx

I also noticed that something unusual, the kernel printed out

Memory: 60964/196604k avaialble (1020k kernel code, 2772k data)
              ^^^^^^ this is too big for 62M
   
My machine is a Indy which has 62M memory, and PROMLIB detected it right.

Another thing it didn't get the right capacity of scsi disk.

I also tried the newer kernels from ftp.linux.sgi.com:/pub/test, but
they immediately crashed.

Thanks.

Dong

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* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-03-27 20:25 new to sgi linux Dong Liu
@ 1998-03-27 21:05 ` ralf
  1998-03-27 21:59   ` Dong Liu
  1998-03-27 23:49   ` Ulf Carlsson
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: ralf @ 1998-03-27 21:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dong Liu; +Cc: linux

On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 03:25:08PM -0500, Dong Liu wrote:

> I'm new to sgi linux, just got a spare Indy :=), can some one help me on this.
> 
> According the linux sgi FAQ on http://www.linux.sgi.com, I download
> vmlinux-970916-efs and the small root fs. When I boot it using bootp,
> I get 
> 
> Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000000,
> epc == 800cbfdc, ra == 800cbfbc

The addresses 0x800cbfdc / 0x800cbfbc are not valid kernel addresses on
the Indy.  Is it possible you wrote them down wrong?  0x880cbfdc /
0x880cbfbc however would make sense and are indeed in the sgiseeq driver.
I'll take a closer look at it.

> right after linux kernel displayed
> 
> eth0: SGI Seeq8003 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
> 
> I also noticed that something unusual, the kernel printed out
> 
> Memory: 60964/196604k avaialble (1020k kernel code, 2772k data)
>               ^^^^^^ this is too big for 62M

The message is correct.  The difference is because of a hole in the Indy's
address space comparable to the 640kb - 1024kb hole on PCs.

(This should go into the FAQ)

> My machine is a Indy which has 62M memory, and PROMLIB detected it right.
> 
> Another thing it didn't get the right capacity of scsi disk.

Are you shure?  Some peopple got fooled by the 1024 vs. 1024 bytes per
kb isue ...  Or are the numbers way off?

> I also tried the newer kernels from ftp.linux.sgi.com:/pub/test, but
> they immediately crashed.

There is a command named ``hinv'' under IRIX.  Can you mail me the output?

I'm going to put binaries of 2.0.91 online.  That kernel seems to be
running very reliable for me.  In fact it's too reliable to debug, I can't
reproduce the one killer bug I know of it must be still there ...

  Ralf

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* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-03-27 21:05 ` ralf
@ 1998-03-27 21:59   ` Dong Liu
  1998-03-28  4:52     ` ralf
  1998-03-27 23:49   ` Ulf Carlsson
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Dong Liu @ 1998-03-27 21:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ralf; +Cc: Dong Liu, linux

ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes:
 > 
 > The addresses 0x800cbfdc / 0x800cbfbc are not valid kernel addresses on
 > the Indy.  Is it possible you wrote them down wrong?  0x880cbfdc /
 > 0x880cbfbc however would make sense and are indeed in the sgiseeq driver.
 > I'll take a closer look at it.

Sorry, my mistake, they are 0x880cbfdc 0x880cbfbc

 > > 
 > > Another thing it didn't get the right capacity of scsi disk.
 > 
 > Are you shure?  Some peopple got fooled by the 1024 vs. 1024 bytes per
 > kb isue ...  Or are the numbers way off?

This what I got

sda: sector size 0 reported, assume 512
SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes, Sectors=1 [0 MB][0.0 GB]

:=)

 > 
 > There is a command named ``hinv'' under IRIX.  Can you mail me the output?

Here it is

1 100 MHZ IP22 Processor
FPU: MIPS R4010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 0.0
CPU: MIPS R4000 Processor Chip Revision: 3.0
On-board serial ports: 2
On-board bi-directional parallel port
Data cache size: 8 Kbytes
Instruction cache size: 8 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte
Main memory size: 64 Mbytes
Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0
Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1
Disk drive / removable media: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D
Graphics board: Indy 24-bit
Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, Indycam connected

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* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-03-27 21:05 ` ralf
  1998-03-27 21:59   ` Dong Liu
@ 1998-03-27 23:49   ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-03-31 22:13     ` Oliver Frommel
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Carlsson @ 1998-03-27 23:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ralf; +Cc: linux

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> I'm going to put binaries of 2.0.91 online.

I hope I finally get a kernel which boots my Indy now..
This will the most exciting moment of my life :-)
(greetings to Ralf)

- Ulf

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* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-03-27 21:59   ` Dong Liu
@ 1998-03-28  4:52     ` ralf
  1998-03-29 22:40       ` Brendan Black
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: ralf @ 1998-03-28  4:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dong Liu; +Cc: linux

On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 04:59:26PM -0500, Dong Liu wrote:

>  > > Another thing it didn't get the right capacity of scsi disk.
>  > 
>  > Are you shure?  Some peopple got fooled by the 1024 vs. 1024 bytes per
>  > kb isue ...  Or are the numbers way off?
> 
> This what I got
> 
> sda: sector size 0 reported, assume 512
> SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes, Sectors=1 [0 MB][0.0 GB]
> 
> :=)

Hmmm...  I speculate we misstreat R4000MC / R4400MC CPUs :-(

>  > There is a command named ``hinv'' under IRIX.  Can you mail me the output?

> FPU: MIPS R4010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 0.0
> CPU: MIPS R4000 Processor Chip Revision: 3.0
> Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte

Sigh, was suspecting that.  Actually handling of these CPUs should be
fixed in current kernels ...

  Ralf

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* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-03-28  4:52     ` ralf
@ 1998-03-29 22:40       ` Brendan Black
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Brendan Black @ 1998-03-29 22:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ralf; +Cc: Dong Liu, linux

ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 04:59:26PM -0500, Dong Liu wrote:
> 
> >  > > Another thing it didn't get the right capacity of scsi disk.
> >  >
> >  > Are you shure?  Some peopple got fooled by the 1024 vs. 1024 bytes per
> >  > kb isue ...  Or are the numbers way off?
> >
> > This what I got
> >
> > sda: sector size 0 reported, assume 512
> > SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes, Sectors=1 [0 MB][0.0 GB]
> >
> > :=)
> 
> Hmmm...  I speculate we misstreat R4000MC / R4400MC CPUs :-(
> 
> >  > There is a command named ``hinv'' under IRIX.  Can you mail me the output?
> 
> > FPU: MIPS R4010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 0.0
> > CPU: MIPS R4000 Processor Chip Revision: 3.0
> > Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte
> 
> Sigh, was suspecting that.  Actually handling of these CPUs should be
> fixed in current kernels ...
> 
>   Ralf

seeeing I am having exactly the same problem, it might fix me too
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* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-03-27 23:49   ` Ulf Carlsson
@ 1998-03-31 22:13     ` Oliver Frommel
  1998-04-01 17:06       ` Ulf Carlsson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Oliver Frommel @ 1998-03-31 22:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ulf Carlsson; +Cc: linux

> 
> I hope I finally get a kernel which boots my Indy now..
> This will the most exciting moment of my life :-)
> (greetings to Ralf)
>

ok. i finally managed to compile binutils and gcc (with a lot of help from Ralf)
and compiled the latest kernel on linux.sgi.com ..
you can get it from ftp://zero.ac.at/pub/sgi-linux/linux-980326.tar.gz

have fun
-oliver
 

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* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 17:06       ` Ulf Carlsson
@ 1998-04-01 17:05         ` Dong Liu
  1998-04-01 17:54           ` ralf
  1998-04-01 17:26         ` ralf
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Dong Liu @ 1998-04-01 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux

Ulf Carlsson writes:
 > 2.1.90 doesn't work on my Indy :-(
 > 
 > Here's the output (maybe something for Ralf to look at):
 > 
 > PROMLIB: SGI ARCS firmware Version 1 Revision 10
 > PROMLIB: Total free ram 33284672 bytes (31528K, 30MB)
 > ARCH: SGI-IP22
 > CPU: MIPS-R4000 FPU<MIPS-R4000FPC> ICACHE DCACHE SCACHE
 > Loading R4000 MMU routines.
 > Primary instruction cache 8kb, linesize 16 bytes)
 > Primary data cache 8kb, linesize 16 bytes)
 > Secondary cache sized at 1024K linesize 128
 > Linux version 2.1.90 (oliver@ball.aec.at) (gcc version 2.7.2) ...
 > MC: SGI memory controller Revision 3
 > R4600/R5000 SCACHE size 0k linesize 128 bytes
 > calculating r4koff... 000a1e0(500192)
 > GFX INIT: SHMIQ setup
 > usemaclone misc device registered (minor: 151)
 > Video screen size is 00004c88 at 88318db0
 > Console: 16 point font, 992 scans
 > Console: colour NEWPORT 158x62, 1 virtual console (max 63)
 > Calibrating delay loop... 49.97 BogoMIPS
 > Memory: 28300k/163372k available (1036 kernel code, 2188k data)
 > Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 for Linux 2.1
 > NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.16 for Linux NET3.038.
 > Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.037
 > IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
 > Checking for 'wait' instruction... unavailable
 > POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
 > Starting kswapd v 1.5
 > SGI Zilog8530 serial driver version 1.00
 > tty00 at 0xbfbd9838 (irq = 21) is a Zilog8530
 > tty01 at 0xbfbd9830 (irq = 21) is a Zilog8530
 > WD93: Driver version 1.25 compiled on Mar 31 1998 at 22:26:48
 >  debug_flags=0x00
 > wd33c93-0: chip=WD33c93B/13 no_sync=0xff no_dma=0scsi0 : GVP SeriesII SCSI
 > scsi : 1 host
 >  sending SDTR 0103013f0csync_xfer=2cpagefault from irq handler: 0000
 > $0 : 00000000 1004fc00 89f5ac80 ffffff80
 > $4 : 00000000 89f5acd0 1004fc00 1004fc00
 > $8 : 1004fc00 1000001f 4003f004 8802c10c
 > $12: 00000100 880ee84e 88009fa0 ffffffe0
 > $16: c0000044 00001000 a9f58000 89f59c00
 > $20: 89f59e70 bfbc0003 00000060 bfb90000
 > $24: a8747310 8810e5cc
 > $28: 88008000 88009c90 89f59e70 880d9204
 > epc   : 880224e8
 > Status: 1000fc02
 > Cause : 30008008
 > Aiee, killing interrupt handler
 > Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
 > In swapper task - not syncing
 > 
I had the exact same result:=).

Dong

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* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-03-31 22:13     ` Oliver Frommel
@ 1998-04-01 17:06       ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-01 17:05         ` Dong Liu
  1998-04-01 17:26         ` ralf
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Carlsson @ 1998-04-01 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux

2.1.90 doesn't work on my Indy :-(

Here's the output (maybe something for Ralf to look at):

PROMLIB: SGI ARCS firmware Version 1 Revision 10
PROMLIB: Total free ram 33284672 bytes (31528K, 30MB)
ARCH: SGI-IP22
CPU: MIPS-R4000 FPU<MIPS-R4000FPC> ICACHE DCACHE SCACHE
Loading R4000 MMU routines.
Primary instruction cache 8kb, linesize 16 bytes)
Primary data cache 8kb, linesize 16 bytes)
Secondary cache sized at 1024K linesize 128
Linux version 2.1.90 (oliver@ball.aec.at) (gcc version 2.7.2) ...
MC: SGI memory controller Revision 3
R4600/R5000 SCACHE size 0k linesize 128 bytes
calculating r4koff... 000a1e0(500192)
GFX INIT: SHMIQ setup
usemaclone misc device registered (minor: 151)
Video screen size is 00004c88 at 88318db0
Console: 16 point font, 992 scans
Console: colour NEWPORT 158x62, 1 virtual console (max 63)
Calibrating delay loop... 49.97 BogoMIPS
Memory: 28300k/163372k available (1036 kernel code, 2188k data)
Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 for Linux 2.1
NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.16 for Linux NET3.038.
Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.037
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
Checking for 'wait' instruction... unavailable
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SGI Zilog8530 serial driver version 1.00
tty00 at 0xbfbd9838 (irq = 21) is a Zilog8530
tty01 at 0xbfbd9830 (irq = 21) is a Zilog8530
WD93: Driver version 1.25 compiled on Mar 31 1998 at 22:26:48
 debug_flags=0x00
wd33c93-0: chip=WD33c93B/13 no_sync=0xff no_dma=0scsi0 : GVP SeriesII SCSI
scsi : 1 host
 sending SDTR 0103013f0csync_xfer=2cpagefault from irq handler: 0000
$0 : 00000000 1004fc00 89f5ac80 ffffff80
$4 : 00000000 89f5acd0 1004fc00 1004fc00
$8 : 1004fc00 1000001f 4003f004 8802c10c
$12: 00000100 880ee84e 88009fa0 ffffffe0
$16: c0000044 00001000 a9f58000 89f59c00
$20: 89f59e70 bfbc0003 00000060 bfb90000
$24: a8747310 8810e5cc
$28: 88008000 88009c90 89f59e70 880d9204
epc   : 880224e8
Status: 1000fc02
Cause : 30008008
Aiee, killing interrupt handler
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
In swapper task - not syncing

So, that's all! Puh.. my fingers are burning, those hex numbers drove me
crazy..

I've still a R4000SC with 1mb cache. Tell me if I can dome something else
to help you debugging it. I don't think I have the knowledge needed to fix
the problem on my own right now, sorry... 

- Ulf

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* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 17:06       ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-01 17:05         ` Dong Liu
@ 1998-04-01 17:26         ` ralf
       [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.3.96.980401194246.21805A-100000@ballyhoo.ml.org>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: ralf @ 1998-04-01 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ulf Carlsson; +Cc: linux

On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 07:06:46PM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote:

> 2.1.90 doesn't work on my Indy :-(
> 
> Here's the output (maybe something for Ralf to look at):

> PROMLIB: SGI ARCS firmware Version 1 Revision 10
> PROMLIB: Total free ram 33284672 bytes (31528K, 30MB)
> ARCH: SGI-IP22
> CPU: MIPS-R4000 FPU<MIPS-R4000FPC> ICACHE DCACHE SCACHE
> Loading R4000 MMU routines.
> Primary instruction cache 8kb, linesize 16 bytes)
> Primary data cache 8kb, linesize 16 bytes)
> Secondary cache sized at 1024K linesize 128
> Linux version 2.1.90 (oliver@ball.aec.at) (gcc version 2.7.2) ...
> MC: SGI memory controller Revision 3
> R4600/R5000 SCACHE size 0k linesize 128 bytes

Ouch?  That routine should never be called.  Bug #1.

> wd33c93-0: chip=WD33c93B/13 no_sync=0xff no_dma=0scsi0 : GVP SeriesII SCSI
                                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ouch.  Guess I got caught cuting'n'pasting from the Amiga code ...
Anyway, purely cosmetic.

> scsi : 1 host
>  sending SDTR 0103013f0csync_xfer=2cpagefault from irq handler: 0000
> $0 : 00000000 1004fc00 89f5ac80 ffffff80
> $4 : 00000000 89f5acd0 1004fc00 1004fc00
       ^^^^^^^^
Hmm...  That one looks like you sliped a line or something _really_
strange happend.  The value should actually be 0x00000080.  Which on
our horribly small screen font looks almost like 0x00000000.

It this assumption is right, then the fix will be easy.

> $8 : 1004fc00 1000001f 4003f004 8802c10c
> $12: 00000100 880ee84e 88009fa0 ffffffe0
> $16: c0000044 00001000 a9f58000 89f59c00
> $20: 89f59e70 bfbc0003 00000060 bfb90000
> $24: a8747310 8810e5cc
> $28: 88008000 88009c90 89f59e70 880d9204
> epc   : 880224e8
> Status: 1000fc02
> Cause : 30008008
> Aiee, killing interrupt handler
> Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
> In swapper task - not syncing
> 
> So, that's all! Puh.. my fingers are burning, those hex numbers drove me
> crazy..

That's why god sent men the serial console :-)

> I've still a R4000SC with 1mb cache. Tell me if I can dome something else
> to help you debugging it. I don't think I have the knowledge needed to fix
> the problem on my own right now, sorry... 

Let's fry that bug anyway.  What you provided in combination with the
kernel binary is actually useful information.

There is just one thing which I request when people are spreading kernels -
please don't strip them.  It makes disassembling quite a bit harder.

  Ralf

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* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 17:05         ` Dong Liu
@ 1998-04-01 17:54           ` ralf
  1998-04-01 18:26             ` Oliver Frommel
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: ralf @ 1998-04-01 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dong Liu; +Cc: linux

On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 12:05:15PM -0500, Dong Liu wrote:

> I had the exact same result:=).

Everything else would be even worse.  Actually the only bug reports in
the last time I was _really_ worrying about were those where the kernel
just locked up without printing any message at all.

Assume that bug to be fixed, I think I know what's wrong.

  Ralf

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* Re: new to sgi linux
       [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.3.96.980401194246.21805A-100000@ballyhoo.ml.org>
@ 1998-04-01 18:04             ` ralf
  1998-04-01 18:23               ` ralf
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: ralf @ 1998-04-01 18:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ulf Carlsson; +Cc: linux

On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 07:47:35PM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote:

> Does this mean that It's possible for me to give you more information?

I already have everything that is needed to fix the problem.

Thanks!

  Ralf

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* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 18:04             ` ralf
@ 1998-04-01 18:23               ` ralf
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: ralf @ 1998-04-01 18:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ulf Carlsson; +Cc: linux

On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 08:04:19PM +0200, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 07:47:35PM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote:
> 
> > Does this mean that It's possible for me to give you more information?
> 
> I already have everything that is needed to fix the problem.

Below the patch.  Oliver is going to build a kernel to test the fix
for you.

  Ralf

--- linux-sgi/arch/mips/mm/r4xx0.c-orig	Wed Apr  1 20:09:18 1998
+++ linux-sgi/arch/mips/mm/r4xx0.c	Wed Apr  1 20:11:07 1998
@@ -1951,7 +1951,7 @@
 	a = addr & ~(sc_lsize - 1);
 	end = (addr + size) & ~(sc_lsize - 1);
 	while (1) {
-		flush_scache_line(addr); /* Hit_Writeback_Inv_SD */
+		flush_scache_line(a);	/* Hit_Writeback_Inv_SD */
 		if (addr == end) break;
 		addr += sc_lsize;
 	}
@@ -2006,7 +2006,7 @@
 	a = addr & ~(sc_lsize - 1);
 	end = (addr + size) & ~(sc_lsize - 1);
 	while (1) {
-		flush_scache_line(addr); /* Hit_Writeback_Inv_SD */
+		flush_scache_line(a); /* Hit_Writeback_Inv_SD */
 		if (addr == end) break;
 		addr += sc_lsize;
 	}
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Apr  1 20:17:15 lappi sendmail[6017]: UAA06015: to=<ralf@localhost>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, stat=Sent
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Apr  1 20:17:16 lappi sendmail[6022]: UAA06022: from=<owner-linux-kernel-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu>, size=3507, class=-60, pri=141507, nrcpts=1, msgid=<35227F56.5303EC92@radiks.net>, bodytype=7BIT, proto=ESMTP, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1]
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Apr  1 20:17:17 lappi sendmail[6026]: UAA06025: to=<ralf@localhost>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, stat=Sent
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Apr  1 20:17:17 lappi sendmail[6029]: UAA06027: to=<ralf@localhost>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, stat=Sent
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Apr  1 20:17:49 lappi in.fingerd[6031]: connect from 141.26.5.28
Apr  1 20:20:58 lappi in.fingerd[6034]: connect from 141.26.4.29
Apr  1 20:21:57 lappi sendmail[6038]: UAA06038: from=<owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com>, size=2362, class=-60, pri=140362, nrcpts=1, msgid=<19980401200419.40942@uni-koblenz.de>, proto=ESMTP, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1]
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* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 17:54           ` ralf
@ 1998-04-01 18:26             ` Oliver Frommel
  1998-04-01 18:28               ` ralf
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Oliver Frommel @ 1998-04-01 18:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ralf; +Cc: linux

> 
> Assume that bug to be fixed, I think I know what's wrong.
>

Ralf sent me a patch and i recompiled the 2.1.90 kernel with it applied.
You can find it on ftp://zero.aec.at/pub/sgi-linux/linux-980326-1.tar.gz

bye
-oliver
 

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread

* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 18:26             ` Oliver Frommel
@ 1998-04-01 18:28               ` ralf
  1998-04-01 18:38                 ` Oliver Frommel
                                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: ralf @ 1998-04-01 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Oliver Frommel; +Cc: linux

On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 08:26:10PM +0200, Oliver Frommel wrote:

> > 
> > Assume that bug to be fixed, I think I know what's wrong.
> >
> 
> Ralf sent me a patch and i recompiled the 2.1.90 kernel with it applied.
> You can find it on ftp://zero.aec.at/pub/sgi-linux/linux-980326-1.tar.gz

Stop the presses.  This is not my day.  I'm sending you a new patch.

  Ralf

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread

* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 18:28               ` ralf
@ 1998-04-01 18:38                 ` Oliver Frommel
  1998-04-01 20:01                   ` Dong Liu
  1998-04-01 19:16                 ` Challenge-S series, again William Ellis
       [not found]                 ` <Pine.LNX.3.96.980401204441.21805E-100000@ballyhoo.ml.org>
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Oliver Frommel @ 1998-04-01 18:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux

> > Ralf sent me a patch and i recompiled the 2.1.90 kernel with it applied.
> > You can find it on ftp://zero.aec.at/pub/sgi-linux/linux-980326-1.tar.gz
> 
> Stop the presses.  This is not my day.  I'm sending you a new patch.
>

you can get ftp://zero.aec.at/pub/sgi-linux/linux-980326-2.tar.gz now ..

-oliver
 

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread

* Challenge-S series, again.
  1998-04-01 18:28               ` ralf
  1998-04-01 18:38                 ` Oliver Frommel
@ 1998-04-01 19:16                 ` William Ellis
       [not found]                 ` <Pine.LNX.3.96.980401204441.21805E-100000@ballyhoo.ml.org>
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: William Ellis @ 1998-04-01 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux

I was mucking around trying to get the Challenge S booting
about 2 months ago.  There were problems then since this
machine doesn't have a graphics card.  Just got several
of the latest compiled kernels and still no luck.  Anyone
have a kernel which boots on these machines?  
TIA.  Cheers, Bill


-Looks like it is still probing for graphics.
(output from the 2.1.90 compile -patched)

sash: boot -f /vmlinux
1153264+115552 entry: 0x8800250c

Exception: <vector=Normal>
Status register: 0x10004803<CU0,IM7,IM4,IPL=???,MODE=KERNEL,EXL,IE>
Cause register: 0xc000<CE=0,IP8,IP7,EXC=INT>
Exception PC: 0x880ea3c0, Exception RA: 0x880ea730
Interrupt exception
GIO Timeout Interrupt
GIO parity error register: 0x400<TIME>
GIO bus error: address: 0x80000000
  Saved user regs in hex (&gpda 0xa8740e48, &_regs 0xa8741048):
  arg: a8740000 ffffffff 25 2
  tmp: a8740000 0 88009fb0 88107240 88107244 91fffc0c 91fdf390 91fad900
  sve: a8740000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
  t8 a8740000 t9 0 at 0 v0 0 v1 0 k1 10004801
  gp a8740000 fp 0 sp 0 ra 0

PANIC: Unexpected exception

[Press reset or ENTER to restart.]


^^ At least it catches the error now and doesn't
have to be hard booted.  ;p

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread

* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 18:38                 ` Oliver Frommel
@ 1998-04-01 20:01                   ` Dong Liu
  1998-04-02  7:27                     ` ralf
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Dong Liu @ 1998-04-01 20:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux

Oliver Frommel writes:
 > > > Ralf sent me a patch and i recompiled the 2.1.90 kernel with it applied.
 > > > You can find it on ftp://zero.aec.at/pub/sgi-linux/linux-980326-1.tar.gz
 > > 
 > > Stop the presses.  This is not my day.  I'm sending you a new patch.
 > >
 > 
 > you can get ftp://zero.aec.at/pub/sgi-linux/linux-980326-2.tar.gz now ..
 > 
 > -oliver
 >  
 > 

I got it, now the SCSI is working, it correctly recongnized my scsi
disck, but I got 

Ubable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000000, epc == 880ce1f4, ra == 880ce1d4
Oops 0001

right after 

eth0: SGI Seeq8003 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx

I try mips-linux-addr2line, it didn't give me anything, I guess Oliver
didn't compile it with -g.

Dong

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread

* Re: new to sgi linux
       [not found]                 ` <Pine.LNX.3.96.980401204441.21805E-100000@ballyhoo.ml.org>
@ 1998-04-01 20:39                   ` ralf
  1998-04-01 22:47                     ` Ulf Carlsson
                                       ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: ralf @ 1998-04-01 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ulf Carlsson; +Cc: Oliver Frommel, linux

On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 08:54:55PM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote:

> eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:07:a8:c7
> Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc ==
> 880ce1f4, ra == 880ce1d4

That one seems to be a pretty nasty one.  What is happening is something
that looks like the caches are writing the values back with a certain
delay or not at all.  Not good ...

  Ralf

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread

* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 20:39                   ` new to sgi linux ralf
@ 1998-04-01 22:47                     ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-01 22:47                       ` Ulf Carlsson
                                         ` (3 more replies)
  1998-04-01 22:49                     ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-02 14:42                     ` Oliver Frommel
  2 siblings, 4 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Carlsson @ 1998-04-01 22:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ralf; +Cc: linux

On Wed, 1 Apr 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 08:54:55PM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote:
> 
> > eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:07:a8:c7
> > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc ==
> > 880ce1f4, ra == 880ce1d4
> 
> That one seems to be a pretty nasty one.  What is happening is something
> that looks like the caches are writing the values back with a certain
> delay or not at all.  Not good ...

Isn't this the same old bug we've had for months now? It's atleast the
same error text - 'unable to handle kernel paging request at bla bla..'.

- Ulf

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread

* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 22:47                     ` Ulf Carlsson
@ 1998-04-01 22:47                       ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-01 22:47                       ` Ulf Carlsson
                                         ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Carlsson @ 1998-04-01 22:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ralf; +Cc: linux

On Wed, 1 Apr 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 08:54:55PM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote:
> 
> > eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:07:a8:c7
> > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc ==
> > 880ce1f4, ra == 880ce1d4
> 
> That one seems to be a pretty nasty one.  What is happening is something
> that looks like the caches are writing the values back with a certain
> delay or not at all.  Not good ...

Isn't this the same old bug we've had for months now? It's atleast the
same error text - 'unable to handle kernel paging request at bla bla..'.

- Ulf

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread

* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 22:47                     ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-01 22:47                       ` Ulf Carlsson
@ 1998-04-01 22:47                       ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-01 22:48                       ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-01 22:48                       ` Ulf Carlsson
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Carlsson @ 1998-04-01 22:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ralf; +Cc: linux

On Wed, 1 Apr 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 08:54:55PM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote:
> 
> > eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:07:a8:c7
> > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc ==
> > 880ce1f4, ra == 880ce1d4
> 
> That one seems to be a pretty nasty one.  What is happening is something
> that looks like the caches are writing the values back with a certain
> delay or not at all.  Not good ...

Isn't this the same old bug we've had for months now? It's atleast the
same error text - 'unable to handle kernel paging request at bla bla..'.

- Ulf

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread

* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 22:47                     ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-01 22:47                       ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-01 22:47                       ` Ulf Carlsson
@ 1998-04-01 22:48                       ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-01 22:48                       ` Ulf Carlsson
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Carlsson @ 1998-04-01 22:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ralf; +Cc: linux

On Wed, 1 Apr 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 08:54:55PM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote:
> 
> > eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:07:a8:c7
> > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc ==
> > 880ce1f4, ra == 880ce1d4
> 
> That one seems to be a pretty nasty one.  What is happening is something
> that looks like the caches are writing the values back with a certain
> delay or not at all.  Not good ...

Isn't this the same old bug we've had for months now? It's atleast the
same error text - 'unable to handle kernel paging request at bla bla..'.

- Ulf

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread

* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 22:47                     ` Ulf Carlsson
                                         ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  1998-04-01 22:48                       ` Ulf Carlsson
@ 1998-04-01 22:48                       ` Ulf Carlsson
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Carlsson @ 1998-04-01 22:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ralf; +Cc: linux

On Wed, 1 Apr 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 08:54:55PM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote:
> 
> > eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:07:a8:c7
> > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc ==
> > 880ce1f4, ra == 880ce1d4
> 
> That one seems to be a pretty nasty one.  What is happening is something
> that looks like the caches are writing the values back with a certain
> delay or not at all.  Not good ...

Isn't this the same old bug we've had for months now? It's atleast the
same error text - 'unable to handle kernel paging request at bla bla..'.

- Ulf

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread

* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 20:39                   ` new to sgi linux ralf
  1998-04-01 22:47                     ` Ulf Carlsson
@ 1998-04-01 22:49                     ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-01 22:50                       ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-01 23:14                       ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-02 14:42                     ` Oliver Frommel
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Carlsson @ 1998-04-01 22:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ralf; +Cc: Oliver Frommel, linux

On Wed, 1 Apr 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 08:54:55PM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote:
> 
> > eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:07:a8:c7
> > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc ==
> > 880ce1f4, ra == 880ce1d4
> 
> That one seems to be a pretty nasty one.  What is happening is something
> that looks like the caches are writing the values back with a certain
> delay or not at all.  Not good ...

Isn't this the same old bug we've had for months now? It's atleast the
same error text - 'unable to handle kernel paging request at bla bla..'.

- Ulf

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread

* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 22:49                     ` Ulf Carlsson
@ 1998-04-01 22:50                       ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-01 23:14                       ` Ulf Carlsson
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Carlsson @ 1998-04-01 22:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ralf; +Cc: Oliver Frommel, linux

On Wed, 1 Apr 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 08:54:55PM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote:
> 
> > eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:07:a8:c7
> > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc ==
> > 880ce1f4, ra == 880ce1d4
> 
> That one seems to be a pretty nasty one.  What is happening is something
> that looks like the caches are writing the values back with a certain
> delay or not at all.  Not good ...

Isn't this the same old bug we've had for months now? It's atleast the
same error text - 'unable to handle kernel paging request at bla bla..'.

- Ulf

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread

* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 22:49                     ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-01 22:50                       ` Ulf Carlsson
@ 1998-04-01 23:14                       ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-02  7:31                         ` ralf
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Carlsson @ 1998-04-01 23:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: linux

Sorry, it's pine's fault..

- Ulf

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread

* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 20:01                   ` Dong Liu
@ 1998-04-02  7:27                     ` ralf
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: ralf @ 1998-04-02  7:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dong Liu; +Cc: linux

On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 03:01:38PM -0500, Dong Liu wrote:

> I got it, now the SCSI is working, it correctly recongnized my scsi
> disck, but I got 
> 
> Ubable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000000, epc == 880ce1f4, ra == 880ce1d4
> Oops 0001
> 
> right after 
> 
> eth0: SGI Seeq8003 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx

I bet it's ``... at virtual address 00000008 ...'', not zero?

People, when writing down these number, please be careful.

> I try mips-linux-addr2line, it didn't give me anything, I guess Oliver
> didn't compile it with -g.

It's quite usless that to the aggressive use of inline functions and -O2
optimizations in Linux anyway.

  Ralf

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread

* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 23:14                       ` Ulf Carlsson
@ 1998-04-02  7:31                         ` ralf
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: ralf @ 1998-04-02  7:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ulf Carlsson; +Cc: linux

On Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 01:14:02AM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote:

> Sorry, it's pine's fault..

It's written ``Pine'' but prononouced ``pain'' ...

  Ralf

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread

* Re: new to sgi linux
  1998-04-01 20:39                   ` new to sgi linux ralf
  1998-04-01 22:47                     ` Ulf Carlsson
  1998-04-01 22:49                     ` Ulf Carlsson
@ 1998-04-02 14:42                     ` Oliver Frommel
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Oliver Frommel @ 1998-04-02 14:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux

> On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 08:54:55PM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote:
> 
> > eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:07:a8:c7
> > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc ==
> > 880ce1f4, ra == 880ce1d4
> 
> That one seems to be a pretty nasty one.  What is happening is something
> that looks like the caches are writing the values back with a certain
> delay or not at all.  Not good ...
>

kernel 2.1.90 with Ralf's new patch #3 is here:
ftp://zero.aec.at/pub/sgi-linux/linux-980326-3.tar.gz

-oliver 

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread

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1998-03-28  4:52     ` ralf
1998-03-29 22:40       ` Brendan Black
1998-03-27 23:49   ` Ulf Carlsson
1998-03-31 22:13     ` Oliver Frommel
1998-04-01 17:06       ` Ulf Carlsson
1998-04-01 17:05         ` Dong Liu
1998-04-01 17:54           ` ralf
1998-04-01 18:26             ` Oliver Frommel
1998-04-01 18:28               ` ralf
1998-04-01 18:38                 ` Oliver Frommel
1998-04-01 20:01                   ` Dong Liu
1998-04-02  7:27                     ` ralf
1998-04-01 19:16                 ` Challenge-S series, again William Ellis
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1998-04-01 20:39                   ` new to sgi linux ralf
1998-04-01 22:47                     ` Ulf Carlsson
1998-04-01 22:47                       ` Ulf Carlsson
1998-04-01 22:47                       ` Ulf Carlsson
1998-04-01 22:48                       ` Ulf Carlsson
1998-04-01 22:48                       ` Ulf Carlsson
1998-04-01 22:49                     ` Ulf Carlsson
1998-04-01 22:50                       ` Ulf Carlsson
1998-04-01 23:14                       ` Ulf Carlsson
1998-04-02  7:31                         ` ralf
1998-04-02 14:42                     ` Oliver Frommel
1998-04-01 17:26         ` ralf
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