Re: Linux on an SGI Challenge L

Re: Linux on an SGI Challenge L

[ralf]

On Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 03:47:19PM -0600, Andrew R. Baker wrote:

> Anyone care to make any comments on porting Linux to an SGI Challenge L
> machine w/ (4) R4400 processors?  Am I crazy to even attempt this?

You're not crazy, after all Linux is already running on bigger iron and
about to run on Sun's E10000.  However you should checkout again what
hardware you actually have on your system.  A Challenge L is mostly like
an Indy (which is supported), that is strictly uniprocessor.  So
your system either is not a multiprocessor system or not a Challenge L.

  Ralf

Re: Linux on an SGI Challenge L

[Steven G. Parker]

On Dec 10,  4:36pm, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
> Subject: Re: Linux on an SGI Challenge L
> On Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 03:47:19PM -0600, Andrew R. Baker wrote:
>
> > Anyone care to make any comments on porting Linux to an SGI Challenge L
> > machine w/ (4) R4400 processors?  Am I crazy to even attempt this?
>
> You're not crazy, after all Linux is already running on bigger iron and
> about to run on Sun's E10000.  However you should checkout again what
> hardware you actually have on your system.  A Challenge L is mostly like
> an Indy (which is supported), that is strictly uniprocessor.  So
> your system either is not a multiprocessor system or not a Challenge L.

Actually, the Indy system is a Challenge S.  The Indigo^2 system is
a Challenge M.   The Challenge L is the desk-side system and can indeed
support multiple processors.

I can only comment on the model line - not on whether you are crazy or not :)

Steve Parker

Re: Linux on an SGI Challenge L

[Dave Olson]

Steven G. Parker wrote: 
|  On Dec 10,  4:36pm, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
|  > > Anyone care to make any comments on porting Linux to an SGI Challenge L
|  > > machine w/ (4) R4400 processors?  Am I crazy to even attempt this?
|  >
|  > You're not crazy, after all Linux is already running on bigger iron and
|  > about to run on Sun's E10000.  However you should checkout again what
|  > hardware you actually have on your system.  A Challenge L is mostly like
|  > an Indy (which is supported), that is strictly uniprocessor.  So
|  > your system either is not a multiprocessor system or not a Challenge L.
|  
|  Actually, the Indy system is a Challenge S.  The Indigo^2 system is
|  a Challenge M.   The Challenge L is the desk-side system and can indeed
|  support multiple processors.
|  
|  I can only comment on the model line - not on whether you are crazy or not :)

The hardware is radically different.  The only shared item is the cpu,
and even it's used in a fairly different way.  indy w/o graphics as
challenge S, etc. is strictly a marketing idea.

It's clearly doable, but you need a whole new set of hardware specs.

Dave Olson, Silicon Graphics
http://reality.sgi.com/olson   olson@sgi.com

Re: Linux on an SGI Challenge L

[Dave Olson]

Steven G. Parker wrote: 
|  On Dec 10,  4:36pm, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
|  > > Anyone care to make any comments on porting Linux to an SGI Challenge L
|  > > machine w/ (4) R4400 processors?  Am I crazy to even attempt this?
|  >
|  > You're not crazy, after all Linux is already running on bigger iron and
|  > about to run on Sun's E10000.  However you should checkout again what
|  > hardware you actually have on your system.  A Challenge L is mostly like
|  > an Indy (which is supported), that is strictly uniprocessor.  So
|  > your system either is not a multiprocessor system or not a Challenge L.
|  
|  Actually, the Indy system is a Challenge S.  The Indigo^2 system is
|  a Challenge M.   The Challenge L is the desk-side system and can indeed
|  support multiple processors.
|  
|  I can only comment on the model line - not on whether you are crazy or not :)

The hardware is radically different.  The only shared item is the cpu,
and even it's used in a fairly different way.  indy w/o graphics as
challenge S, etc. is strictly a marketing idea.

It's clearly doable, but you need a whole new set of hardware specs.

Dave Olson, Silicon Graphics
http://reality.sgi.com/olson   olson@sgi.com

Re: Linux on an SGI Challenge L

[ralf]

On Thu, Dec 10, 1998 at 08:59:11AM -0700, Steven G. Parker wrote:

> On Dec 10,  4:36pm, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
> > Subject: Re: Linux on an SGI Challenge L
> > On Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 03:47:19PM -0600, Andrew R. Baker wrote:
> >
> > > Anyone care to make any comments on porting Linux to an SGI Challenge L
> > > machine w/ (4) R4400 processors?  Am I crazy to even attempt this?
> >
> > You're not crazy, after all Linux is already running on bigger iron and
> > about to run on Sun's E10000.  However you should checkout again what
> > hardware you actually have on your system.  A Challenge L is mostly like
> > an Indy (which is supported), that is strictly uniprocessor.  So
> > your system either is not a multiprocessor system or not a Challenge L.
> 
> Actually, the Indy system is a Challenge S.  The Indigo^2 system is
> a Challenge M.   The Challenge L is the desk-side system and can indeed
> support multiple processors.
> 
> I can only comment on the model line - not on whether you are crazy or not :)

Sorry, I'm out of my mind since the big flu knocked me down during
last weekend's CLOWN cluster event.  I was actually thinking
Challenge S.

 Ralf  (Going back to Asprine and hot tee ...)

Re: Linux on an SGI Challenge L

[Fernando D. Mato Mira]

>hardware you actually have on your system.  A Challenge L is mostly like
>an Indy (which is supported), that is strictly uniprocessor.  So
>your system either is not a multiprocessor system or not a Challenge L.

Slip. Challenge S == "Indy" . Challenge L = deskside (max 8 proc)

Challenge DM = deskside (max 4?)


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Re: Linux on an SGI Challenge L

[Alex deVries]

What's in a Challenge L exactly, in terms of devices and busses?

- Alex

Re: Linux on an SGI Challenge L

[Dave Olson]

Alex deVries wrote: 
|  
|  What's in a Challenge L exactly, in terms of devices and busses?

same cpu bus, but used differently
hidden gio bus within some cards (not quite the same as indy)
vme
wd95 scsi, not wd93
different ethernet
different serial
different memory/io interface chip, with layered and "interesting"
	buses(plural) to various kinds of i/o
interrupts (of course) are quite different, with some interesting
issues in the implementation.

There may still be some old white papers on www.sgi.com


Dave Olson, Silicon Graphics
http://reality.sgi.com/olson   olson@sgi.com

Re: Linux on an SGI Challenge L

[Dave Olson]

Alex deVries wrote: 
|  
|  What's in a Challenge L exactly, in terms of devices and busses?

same cpu bus, but used differently
hidden gio bus within some cards (not quite the same as indy)
vme
wd95 scsi, not wd93
different ethernet
different serial
different memory/io interface chip, with layered and "interesting"
	buses(plural) to various kinds of i/o
interrupts (of course) are quite different, with some interesting
issues in the implementation.

There may still be some old white papers on www.sgi.com


Dave Olson, Silicon Graphics
http://reality.sgi.com/olson   olson@sgi.com