From: "H . J . Lu" <hjl@lucon.org>
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Cc: GNU libc hacker <libc-hacker@sources.redhat.com>, linux-mips@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: thread-ready ABIs
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:19:08 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020118101908.C23887@lucon.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3elkoa5dw.fsf@myware.mynet>; from drepper@redhat.com on Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 04:07:23PM -0800
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 04:07:23PM -0800, Ulrich Drepper wrote:
> The time is near when we (well, I) well start a drastic move toward
> generally using thread registers. Even in non-threaded code.
>
> This means that unless all architectures get thread registers (or
> equivalent things like Alpha's special code) we'll have a two class
> society of platforms where all code written for the platforms without
> thread register can be run on the other systems, but not vice versa.
>
> >From what I see today we have thread registers only on Alpha, x86,
> IA-64, SH, and x86_64. SPARC shouldn't be too much of a problem. Sun
> is using %g6 or %g7 (forgot which one) and since they define the ABI
> no big complications are expected.
>
> Now, what is about the rest? I assume cris isn't much of a problem
> since it's a purely embedded machine.
>
>
> Arm: don't know whether this should fall in the same category.
> Philip?
>
>
> m68k: Well, maybe it's time to retire these machines. But on the
> other hand, there are those useless address registers. Andreas, Jes?
>
>
> PPC (32-bit) is known to be a problem. I've seen several proposals as
> to what register to use but haven't seen a final decision. Problems
> with the different PPC implementations are probably hindering this.
> Geoff, could you please make a decision? I hope the PPC64 ABI already
> allocated a thread register.
>
>
> S390: I have no idea. Martin, please comment and make a decision.
>
>
> MIPS: Who feels responsible? Andreas, HJ?
>
I don't see there are any registers we can use without breaking ABI.
On the other hand, can we change the mips kernel to save k0 or k1 for
user space?
>
> PA: no idea. HP has no 32-bit ELF so. But they have 64-bit ELF and
> it definitely has a thread register.
>
>
>
> Please consider this a high priority task now. I've been warning
> about this for a long time. Jakub is working on some code and once
> this is ready for me to use I'll make lots of changes to ld.so and the
> locale handling and from that point on we have the two classes of
> architectures.
>
> Oh, this now also concerns Hurd. So, Roland, how far is using LDTs on
> Hurd/x86?
>
H.J.
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Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2002-01-18 18:19 ` H . J . Lu [this message]
2002-01-18 18:31 ` thread-ready ABIs Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 19:08 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-18 19:20 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-19 12:14 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-19 12:14 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-20 0:14 ` Ralf Baechle
2002-01-18 20:03 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-18 20:20 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 20:50 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-18 21:02 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 21:35 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-18 21:44 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 22:17 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-18 21:23 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-19 0:35 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-19 0:35 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-19 4:11 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-19 12:27 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-19 19:42 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 13:27 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-19 22:21 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-19 22:21 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-20 10:38 ` Machida Hiroyuki
2002-01-20 11:58 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-20 11:58 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-20 13:16 ` Machida Hiroyuki
2002-01-22 6:27 ` patches for test-and-set without ll/sc (Re: thread-ready ABIs) Machida Hiroyuki
2002-01-22 6:37 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22 6:46 ` Machida Hiroyuki
2002-01-22 6:56 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-24 9:56 ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-01-24 9:56 ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-01-20 19:19 ` thread-ready ABIs H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 9:39 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 9:39 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 13:56 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-21 18:24 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 18:36 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-21 18:52 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 18:58 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 18:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-21 19:05 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 19:09 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-21 19:18 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 21:04 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 21:04 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 19:30 ` Geoff Keating
2002-01-21 21:07 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-21 13:43 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-20 0:24 ` Ralf Baechle
2002-01-21 23:22 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-21 23:57 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 23:57 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 0:16 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22 0:16 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22 9:37 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 9:37 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 17:41 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22 17:41 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22 9:59 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 9:59 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 12:18 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 12:18 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 15:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-22 15:44 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 21:44 ` Tommy S. Christensen
2002-01-22 21:53 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 21:53 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 23:13 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 23:13 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-23 1:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2002-01-22 16:05 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 16:05 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 16:34 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-22 17:08 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:08 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:13 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-22 17:34 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:34 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:37 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-22 17:47 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:47 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:57 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-22 18:18 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 18:18 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-27 20:24 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-27 20:24 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-28 8:50 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-28 8:50 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 1:39 ` Richard Henderson
2002-01-18 21:24 Justin Carlson
2002-01-18 21:31 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 21:42 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
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