From: Daniel Jacobowitz <dan@debian.org>
To: "Kevin D. Kissell" <kevink@mips.com>
Cc: Dominic Sweetman <dom@algor.co.uk>,
Ralf Baechle <ralf@oss.sgi.com>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>, Mike Uhler <uhler@mips.com>,
"MIPS/Linux List (SGI)" <linux-mips@oss.sgi.com>,
"H . J . Lu" <hjl@lucon.org>
Subject: Re: thread-ready ABIs
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:34:20 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020122113420.A14284@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <007601c1a35e$b3e3f940$0deca8c0@Ulysses>
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 05:05:45PM +0100, Kevin D. Kissell wrote:
> > In any case, that's not the real problem. Linux user threads do not
> > have true separate stacks. They share their _entire_ address space;
> > the stacks are all bounded (default is 2MB) and grouped together at the
> > top of the available memory region.
>
> Exactly. But if all we all we are worried about is thread
> specific data for user threads multiplexed on exactly
> one kernel thread, we could probably get by with a
> simple global variable for the thread pointer for the
> current user thread running in the process. It's the
> case of multiple user threads running within multiple
> *kernel* threads (e.g. created by fork()) that complicates
> things, and makes people want to use a register
> or other storage resource associated with exactly one
> kernel thread (and CPU). A permanently assigned
> register, as we have seen, creates various complications,
> so I'm looking for another kernel-thread-specific resource,
> of which I believe the stack region is the best candidate.
> Each process/task/program would have a single global
> variable, which points to a common address in the
> stack region of each kernel thread, which is used
> to store the address of the user-thread-specific
> data of the user thread executing on that kernel thread.
Perhaps I'm mangling terminology. LinuxThreads is a one-to-one mapping
of kernel threads to user threads. All the kernel threads, and thus
all the user threads, share the same memory region - including the
stack region. Their stacks are differentiated solely by different
values in the stack pointer register. Thus I don't think what you're
suggesting is possible.
--
Daniel Jacobowitz Carnegie Mellon University
MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer
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Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2002-01-18 18:19 ` thread-ready ABIs H . J . Lu
2002-01-18 18:31 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 19:08 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-18 19:20 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-19 12:14 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-19 12:14 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-20 0:14 ` Ralf Baechle
2002-01-18 20:03 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-18 20:20 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 20:50 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-18 21:02 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 21:35 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-18 21:44 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 22:17 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-18 21:23 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-19 0:35 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-19 0:35 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-19 4:11 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-19 12:27 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-19 19:42 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 13:27 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-19 22:21 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-19 22:21 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-20 10:38 ` Machida Hiroyuki
2002-01-20 11:58 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-20 11:58 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-20 13:16 ` Machida Hiroyuki
2002-01-22 6:27 ` patches for test-and-set without ll/sc (Re: thread-ready ABIs) Machida Hiroyuki
2002-01-22 6:37 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22 6:46 ` Machida Hiroyuki
2002-01-22 6:56 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-24 9:56 ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-01-24 9:56 ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-01-20 19:19 ` thread-ready ABIs H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 9:39 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 9:39 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 13:56 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-21 18:24 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 18:36 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-21 18:52 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 18:58 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 18:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-21 19:05 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 19:09 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-21 19:18 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 21:04 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 21:04 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 19:30 ` Geoff Keating
2002-01-21 21:07 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-21 13:43 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-20 0:24 ` Ralf Baechle
2002-01-21 23:22 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-21 23:57 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 23:57 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 0:16 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22 0:16 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22 9:37 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 9:37 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 17:41 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22 17:41 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22 9:59 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 9:59 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 12:18 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 12:18 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 15:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-22 15:44 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 21:44 ` Tommy S. Christensen
2002-01-22 21:53 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 21:53 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 23:13 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 23:13 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-23 1:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2002-01-22 16:05 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 16:05 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 16:34 ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2002-01-22 17:08 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:08 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:13 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-22 17:34 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:34 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:37 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-22 17:47 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:47 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:57 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-22 18:18 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 18:18 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-27 20:24 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-27 20:24 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-28 8:50 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-28 8:50 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 1:39 ` Richard Henderson
2002-01-18 21:24 Justin Carlson
2002-01-18 21:31 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 21:42 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
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