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From: Daniel Jacobowitz <dan@debian.org>
To: "Kevin D. Kissell" <kevink@mips.com>
Cc: Dominic Sweetman <dom@algor.co.uk>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@oss.sgi.com>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>, Mike Uhler <uhler@mips.com>,
	"MIPS/Linux List (SGI)" <linux-mips@oss.sgi.com>,
	"H . J . Lu" <hjl@lucon.org>
Subject: Re: thread-ready ABIs
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:34:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020122113420.A14284@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <007601c1a35e$b3e3f940$0deca8c0@Ulysses>

On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 05:05:45PM +0100, Kevin D. Kissell wrote:
> > In any case, that's not the real problem.  Linux user threads do not
> > have true separate stacks.  They share their _entire_ address space;
> > the stacks are all bounded (default is 2MB) and grouped together at the
> > top of the available memory region.
> 
> Exactly.  But if all we all we are worried about is thread
> specific data for user threads multiplexed on exactly
> one kernel thread, we could probably get by with a
> simple global variable for the thread pointer for the
> current user thread running in the process.   It's the
> case of multiple user threads running within multiple
> *kernel* threads (e.g. created by fork()) that complicates
> things, and makes people want to use a register
> or other storage resource associated with exactly one
> kernel thread (and CPU).  A permanently assigned
> register, as we have seen, creates various complications,
> so I'm looking for another kernel-thread-specific resource,
> of which I believe the stack region is the best candidate.
> Each process/task/program would have a single global
> variable, which points to a common address in the
> stack region of each kernel thread, which is used
> to store the address of the user-thread-specific
> data of the user thread executing on that kernel thread.

Perhaps I'm mangling terminology.  LinuxThreads is a one-to-one mapping
of kernel threads to user threads.  All the kernel threads, and thus
all the user threads, share the same memory region - including the
stack region.  Their stacks are differentiated solely by different
values in the stack pointer register.  Thus I don't think what you're
suggesting is possible.

-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz                           Carnegie Mellon University
MontaVista Software                         Debian GNU/Linux Developer

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-01-22 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2002-01-18 18:19 ` thread-ready ABIs H . J . Lu
2002-01-18 18:31   ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 19:08     ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-18 19:20       ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-19 12:14         ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-19 12:14           ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-20  0:14     ` Ralf Baechle
2002-01-18 20:03   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-18 20:20     ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 20:50       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-18 21:02         ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 21:35           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-18 21:44             ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 22:17               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-18 21:23   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-19  0:35   ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-19  0:35     ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-19  4:11     ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-19 12:27       ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-19 19:42         ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 13:27           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-19 22:21         ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-19 22:21           ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-20 10:38       ` Machida Hiroyuki
2002-01-20 11:58         ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-20 11:58           ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-20 13:16           ` Machida Hiroyuki
2002-01-22  6:27             ` patches for test-and-set without ll/sc (Re: thread-ready ABIs) Machida Hiroyuki
2002-01-22  6:37               ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22  6:46                 ` Machida Hiroyuki
2002-01-22  6:56                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-24  9:56                 ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-01-24  9:56                   ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-01-20 19:19           ` thread-ready ABIs H . J . Lu
2002-01-21  9:39             ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21  9:39               ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 13:56               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-21 18:24                 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 18:36                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-21 18:52                     ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 18:58                       ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 18:59                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-21 19:05                         ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 19:09                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-21 19:18                             ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 21:04                         ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 21:04                           ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 19:30                       ` Geoff Keating
2002-01-21 21:07                       ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-21 13:43             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-20  0:24     ` Ralf Baechle
2002-01-21 23:22       ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-21 23:57         ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 23:57           ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22  0:16           ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22  0:16             ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22  9:37             ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22  9:37               ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 17:41               ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22 17:41                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22  9:59           ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22  9:59             ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 12:18             ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 12:18               ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 15:21               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-22 15:44                 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 21:44                   ` Tommy S. Christensen
2002-01-22 21:53                     ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 21:53                       ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 23:13                       ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 23:13                         ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-23  1:12                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2002-01-22 16:05                 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 16:05                   ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 16:34                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2002-01-22 17:08                     ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:08                       ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:13                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-22 17:34                         ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:34                           ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:37                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-22 17:47                             ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:47                               ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:57                               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-22 18:18                                 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 18:18                                   ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-27 20:24                         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-27 20:24                           ` Alan Cox
2002-01-28  8:50                           ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-28  8:50                             ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22  1:39   ` Richard Henderson
2002-01-18 21:24 Justin Carlson
2002-01-18 21:31 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 21:42 ` Maciej W. Rozycki

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