From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@kernel.org, ljs@kernel.org,
nico.pache@linux.dev, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 16/57] mm/collapse: freeze the sources behind migration entries
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2026 11:49:21 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260824154921.GA863036@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aoxQnuEacGpzp2I7@thinkstation>
On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 03:13:10PM +0100, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 09:12:24PM +0800, Lance Yang wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 16, 2026 at 11:45:28PM +0100, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> > >+ if (!folio_ref_freeze(folio,
> > >+ folio_expected_ref_count(folio) + 1)) {
> > >+ result = SCAN_PAGE_COUNT;
> > >+ goto unfreeze;
> > >+ }
> > >+ nr_frozen = nr_saved;
> >
> > Just one thing I was wondering about ... can deferred_split_isolate()
> > remove a source folio from deferred_split_lru while its refcount is
> > frozen by collapse_freeze_candidate()?
> >
> > Assume an earlier span belongs to an anonymous large folio on the
> > deferred split queue, then a later span fails folio_trylock().
> > collapse_freeze_candidate() continues after freezing each source folio
> > and calls collapse_unfreeze_candidate() on a later failure:
> >
> > static noinline enum scan_result collapse_freeze_candidate(struct mm_struct *mm,
> > struct collapse_candidate *cand, pte_t *pte)
> > {
> > ...
> > for (i = 0, addr = cand->addr; i < nr_pages;) {
> > ...
> > if (!folio_trylock(folio)) {
> > folio_put(folio);
> > result = SCAN_PAGE_LOCK;
> > goto unfreeze;
> > }
> > ...
> > nr_saved = i + nr;
> >
> > if (!folio_ref_freeze(folio,
> > folio_expected_ref_count(folio) + 1)) {
> > result = SCAN_PAGE_COUNT;
> > goto unfreeze;
> > }
> > nr_frozen = nr_saved;
> >
> > i += nr;
> > addr += nr * PAGE_SIZE;
> > }
> >
> > ...
> > unfreeze:
> > collapse_unfreeze_candidate(mm, cand, pte, nr_saved, nr_frozen);
> > return result;
> > }
> >
> > folio_ref_freeze() takes the source folio's refcount to zero:
> >
> > static inline int folio_ref_freeze(struct folio *folio, int count)
> > {
> > return page_ref_freeze(&folio->page, count);
> > }
> >
> > static inline int page_ref_freeze(struct page *page, int count)
> > {
> > int ret = likely(atomic_cmpxchg(&page->_refcount, count, 0) == count);
> >
> > ...
> > return ret;
> > }
> >
> > While collapse_freeze_candidate() still holds the source folio lock,
> > deferred_split_scan() can call deferred_split_isolate():
> >
> > static unsigned long deferred_split_scan(struct shrinker *shrink,
> > struct shrink_control *sc)
> > {
> > LIST_HEAD(dispose);
> > struct folio *folio, *next;
> > int split = 0;
> > unsigned long isolated;
> >
> > isolated = list_lru_shrink_walk_irq(&deferred_split_lru, sc,
> > deferred_split_isolate, &dispose);
> > }
> >
> > static enum lru_status deferred_split_isolate(struct list_head *item,
> > struct list_lru_one *lru,
> > void *cb_arg)
> > {
> > struct folio *folio = container_of(item, struct folio, _deferred_list);
> > struct list_head *freeable = cb_arg;
> >
> > if (folio_try_get(folio)) {
> > list_lru_isolate_move(lru, item, freeable);
> > return LRU_REMOVED;
> > }
> >
> > /*
> > * We lost race with folio_put(). Read folio state before the
> > * isolate: folio_unqueue_deferred_split() checks list_empty()
> > * locklessly, so once removed the folio can be freed any time.
> > */
> > if (folio_test_partially_mapped(folio)) {
> > folio_clear_partially_mapped(folio);
> > mod_mthp_stat(folio_order(folio),
> > MTHP_STAT_NR_ANON_PARTIALLY_MAPPED, -1);
> > }
> > list_lru_isolate(lru, item);
> > return LRU_REMOVED;
> > }
> >
> > And folio_try_get() fails because the source folio has a frozen refcount.
> > deferred_split_isolate() treats the failure as a race with folio_put(),
> > clears PG_partially_mapped and its MTHP_STAT_NR_ANON_PARTIALLY_MAPPED
> > accounting when set, then removes the folio from deferred_split_lru ...
>
> Hm. So, the premise in deferred_split_isolate() is false:
> !folio_try_get() doesn't mean lost race with folio_put().
I suppose you mean, not exclusively. But it can also mean that. And
then the question is, who cleans up the partially_mapped state.
> I think deferred_split_isolate() should do something like:
>
> if (!folio_try_get(folio))
> return LRU_SKIP;
>
> list_lru_isolate_move(lru, item, freeable);
> return LRU_REMOVED;
>
> Johannes, do I miss something?
Ah. The idea being: leave the item on the LRU when there is a race
with the refcount going zero; and then it's up to that other side to
deal with/clean up the partially_mapped state as appropriate. Thus:
folio_put()
__folio_put()
folio_unqueue_deferred_split()
if __list_lru_del():
// clear partially_mapped state & stats
will always succeed, even if it races with the shrinker. And you are
also guaranteed on the collapse side that the state won't vanish from
underneath you.
I think that should work. Usama?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-24 15:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-16 22:45 [RFC PATCH 00/57] mm/collapse: rebuild collapse on migration primitives Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 01/57] mm: add pte_folio() Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-18 16:38 ` Rik van Riel
2026-08-18 18:13 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-18 20:04 ` Rik van Riel
2026-08-19 7:57 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-18 17:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-18 18:30 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-20 10:52 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 02/57] mm: add pte_none_or_zero() Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-17 17:57 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-20 11:03 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 03/57] mm/collapse: add collapse.h for the shared collapse state Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-18 10:50 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-20 11:06 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-19 14:19 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-20 11:11 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 11:47 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-24 12:10 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 12:28 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-24 12:36 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 14:09 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-24 15:18 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 15:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-24 15:51 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 04/57] mm/collapse: rename mthp_present_ptes to eligible_ptes Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 05/57] mm/collapse: state what a collapse may do in the policy Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 06/57] mm/collapse: move the smallest collapse order to collapse.h Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 07/57] mm/collapse: sketch the new anonymous collapse engine Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 08/57] mm/collapse: scan a table for what a collapse could use Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 8:39 ` Lance Yang
2026-08-24 9:36 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 09/57] mm/collapse: collect candidate windows into a round Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 10/57] mm/collapse: run a round and feed the outcomes back Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 11/57] mm/collapse: sketch the passes of a round Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 12/57] mm/collapse: allocate a destination per candidate Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 11:20 ` Lance Yang
2026-08-24 12:37 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 13/57] mm/collapse: revalidate a round against the VMA Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 14/57] mm/collapse: fault the sources in before the freeze Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 15/57] mm/collapse: check what a candidate would freeze Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 16/57] mm/collapse: freeze the sources behind migration entries Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 13:12 ` Lance Yang
2026-08-24 14:13 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 15:49 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2026-08-24 16:13 ` Usama Arif
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 17/57] mm/collapse: copy the sources into the destinations Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 18/57] mm/collapse: install the destinations at PTE level Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 19/57] mm/collapse: install a PMD leaf as the terminal layer Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 20/57] mm/collapse: put the sources back Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 21/57] mm/collapse: settle whatever the round reached Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 22/57] mm/collapse: walk a table with a selection cursor Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 23/57] mm/collapse: give a refused region a second chance Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 24/57] mm/collapse: report each candidate's outcome to tracing Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 25/57] mm/collapse: collapse anonymous memory with the new engine Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 26/57] mm/collapse: give collapse_single_pmd() the range to work on Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 27/57] mm/collapse: scan the windows a VMA can hold Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 28/57] mm/collapse: remove the mechanism the engine replaces Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 29/57] mm/collapse: move what a collapse is judged on into collapse.c Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 30/57] mm/collapse: name the max_ptes ceiling after collapse Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 31/57] mm/khugepaged: count collapses where khugepaged makes them Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 32/57] mm/collapse: move the file collapse into collapse.c Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 33/57] mm/collapse: split collapse into a scan and a run Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 34/57] mm/collapse: implement MADV_COLLAPSE in madvise.c Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 35/57] mm/madvise: drop MADV_COLLAPSE's redundant mm reference Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 36/57] mm/collapse: report what the scan found Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 37/57] mm/collapse: report what the fault-in pass paid Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 38/57] mm/collapse: report the round, and what it made faulters wait Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 39/57] mm/collapse: name the file collapse's tracepoints after collapse Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 40/57] mm/collapse: remove the tracepoints of the mechanism that is gone Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 41/57] mm/collapse: give collapse its own trace header Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 42/57] mm/collapse: allow error injection into the freeze Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 43/57] mm/khugepaged: check the scan budget before the work, not after Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 44/57] mm/khugepaged: hold the address space open across a scan Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 45/57] mm/collapse: take a per-VMA read lock for the round Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 46/57] mm/khugepaged: scan under a per-VMA read lock Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 47/57] mm/madvise: collapse " Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 48/57] mm/collapse: assert the mm reference the engine relies on Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 49/57] mm/khugepaged: drop the mmap_lock barrier from __khugepaged_exit() Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 50/57] selftests/mm: attribute collapses by candidate event alone Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 51/57] selftests/mm: cover collapse inside a sub-PMD VMA Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 52/57] selftests/mm: cover a hole-y window in " Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 53/57] selftests/mm: cover collapse of mlocked ranges Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 54/57] selftests/mm: cover collapse beside a MADV_FREE'd page Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 55/57] selftests/mm: cover collapse beside a pinned page Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 56/57] selftests/mm: cover the scaled max_ptes_shared limit Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 57/57] MAINTAINERS: add an entry for collapse Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-17 8:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-17 8:08 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-17 10:12 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-17 2:02 ` [RFC PATCH 00/57] mm/collapse: rebuild collapse on migration primitives Zi Yan
2026-08-17 10:07 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-17 8:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-17 13:38 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-18 13:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-18 14:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-18 14:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-19 18:08 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 14:22 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-24 14:59 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 17:00 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-18 14:15 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-18 14:41 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-19 18:22 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-19 18:14 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-18 13:55 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-19 17:09 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
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