From: Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@kernel.org, ljs@kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 16/57] mm/collapse: freeze the sources behind migration entries
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2026 15:13:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aoxQnuEacGpzp2I7@thinkstation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260824131224.73344-1-lance.yang@linux.dev>
On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 09:12:24PM +0800, Lance Yang wrote:
>
> On Sun, Aug 16, 2026 at 11:45:28PM +0100, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> >+ if (!folio_ref_freeze(folio,
> >+ folio_expected_ref_count(folio) + 1)) {
> >+ result = SCAN_PAGE_COUNT;
> >+ goto unfreeze;
> >+ }
> >+ nr_frozen = nr_saved;
>
> Just one thing I was wondering about ... can deferred_split_isolate()
> remove a source folio from deferred_split_lru while its refcount is
> frozen by collapse_freeze_candidate()?
>
> Assume an earlier span belongs to an anonymous large folio on the
> deferred split queue, then a later span fails folio_trylock().
> collapse_freeze_candidate() continues after freezing each source folio
> and calls collapse_unfreeze_candidate() on a later failure:
>
> static noinline enum scan_result collapse_freeze_candidate(struct mm_struct *mm,
> struct collapse_candidate *cand, pte_t *pte)
> {
> ...
> for (i = 0, addr = cand->addr; i < nr_pages;) {
> ...
> if (!folio_trylock(folio)) {
> folio_put(folio);
> result = SCAN_PAGE_LOCK;
> goto unfreeze;
> }
> ...
> nr_saved = i + nr;
>
> if (!folio_ref_freeze(folio,
> folio_expected_ref_count(folio) + 1)) {
> result = SCAN_PAGE_COUNT;
> goto unfreeze;
> }
> nr_frozen = nr_saved;
>
> i += nr;
> addr += nr * PAGE_SIZE;
> }
>
> ...
> unfreeze:
> collapse_unfreeze_candidate(mm, cand, pte, nr_saved, nr_frozen);
> return result;
> }
>
> folio_ref_freeze() takes the source folio's refcount to zero:
>
> static inline int folio_ref_freeze(struct folio *folio, int count)
> {
> return page_ref_freeze(&folio->page, count);
> }
>
> static inline int page_ref_freeze(struct page *page, int count)
> {
> int ret = likely(atomic_cmpxchg(&page->_refcount, count, 0) == count);
>
> ...
> return ret;
> }
>
> While collapse_freeze_candidate() still holds the source folio lock,
> deferred_split_scan() can call deferred_split_isolate():
>
> static unsigned long deferred_split_scan(struct shrinker *shrink,
> struct shrink_control *sc)
> {
> LIST_HEAD(dispose);
> struct folio *folio, *next;
> int split = 0;
> unsigned long isolated;
>
> isolated = list_lru_shrink_walk_irq(&deferred_split_lru, sc,
> deferred_split_isolate, &dispose);
> }
>
> static enum lru_status deferred_split_isolate(struct list_head *item,
> struct list_lru_one *lru,
> void *cb_arg)
> {
> struct folio *folio = container_of(item, struct folio, _deferred_list);
> struct list_head *freeable = cb_arg;
>
> if (folio_try_get(folio)) {
> list_lru_isolate_move(lru, item, freeable);
> return LRU_REMOVED;
> }
>
> /*
> * We lost race with folio_put(). Read folio state before the
> * isolate: folio_unqueue_deferred_split() checks list_empty()
> * locklessly, so once removed the folio can be freed any time.
> */
> if (folio_test_partially_mapped(folio)) {
> folio_clear_partially_mapped(folio);
> mod_mthp_stat(folio_order(folio),
> MTHP_STAT_NR_ANON_PARTIALLY_MAPPED, -1);
> }
> list_lru_isolate(lru, item);
> return LRU_REMOVED;
> }
>
> And folio_try_get() fails because the source folio has a frozen refcount.
> deferred_split_isolate() treats the failure as a race with folio_put(),
> clears PG_partially_mapped and its MTHP_STAT_NR_ANON_PARTIALLY_MAPPED
> accounting when set, then removes the folio from deferred_split_lru ...
Hm. So, the premise in deferred_split_isolate() is false:
!folio_try_get() doesn't mean lost race with folio_put().
I think deferred_split_isolate() should do something like:
if (!folio_try_get(folio))
return LRU_SKIP;
list_lru_isolate_move(lru, item, freeable);
return LRU_REMOVED;
Johannes, do I miss something?
>
> >+
> >+ i += nr;
> >+ addr += nr * PAGE_SIZE;
> >+ }
> >+
> >+ cand->state = CAND_FROZEN;
> >+ return SCAN_SUCCEED;
> >+
> >+unfreeze:
> >+ collapse_unfreeze_candidate(mm, cand, pte, nr_saved, nr_frozen);
> >+ return result;
>
> And collapse_unfreeze_candidate() restores the source PTEs and refcount,
> then unlocks and puts the source folio :)
>
> The source folio is not added back to the deferred split queue, so an
> underused or partially mapped folio can remain off the queue.
>
> Should collapse unqueue the source folio after folio_ref_freeze()
> succeeds, remember whether it was on the deferred split queue and whether
> PG_partially_mapped was set, then requeue it if
> collapse_unfreeze_candidate() restores the source folio?
>
> [...]
>
> Cheers, Lance
--
Kiryl Shutsemau / Kirill A. Shutemov
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Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-16 22:45 [RFC PATCH 00/57] mm/collapse: rebuild collapse on migration primitives Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 01/57] mm: add pte_folio() Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-18 16:38 ` Rik van Riel
2026-08-18 18:13 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-18 20:04 ` Rik van Riel
2026-08-19 7:57 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-18 17:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-18 18:30 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-20 10:52 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 02/57] mm: add pte_none_or_zero() Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-17 17:57 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-20 11:03 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 03/57] mm/collapse: add collapse.h for the shared collapse state Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-18 10:50 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-20 11:06 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-19 14:19 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-20 11:11 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 11:47 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-24 12:10 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 12:28 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-24 12:36 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 14:09 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-24 15:18 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 15:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 04/57] mm/collapse: rename mthp_present_ptes to eligible_ptes Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 05/57] mm/collapse: state what a collapse may do in the policy Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 06/57] mm/collapse: move the smallest collapse order to collapse.h Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 07/57] mm/collapse: sketch the new anonymous collapse engine Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 08/57] mm/collapse: scan a table for what a collapse could use Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 8:39 ` Lance Yang
2026-08-24 9:36 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 09/57] mm/collapse: collect candidate windows into a round Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 10/57] mm/collapse: run a round and feed the outcomes back Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 11/57] mm/collapse: sketch the passes of a round Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 12/57] mm/collapse: allocate a destination per candidate Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 11:20 ` Lance Yang
2026-08-24 12:37 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 13/57] mm/collapse: revalidate a round against the VMA Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 14/57] mm/collapse: fault the sources in before the freeze Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 15/57] mm/collapse: check what a candidate would freeze Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 16/57] mm/collapse: freeze the sources behind migration entries Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 13:12 ` Lance Yang
2026-08-24 14:13 ` Kiryl Shutsemau [this message]
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 17/57] mm/collapse: copy the sources into the destinations Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 18/57] mm/collapse: install the destinations at PTE level Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 19/57] mm/collapse: install a PMD leaf as the terminal layer Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 20/57] mm/collapse: put the sources back Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 21/57] mm/collapse: settle whatever the round reached Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 22/57] mm/collapse: walk a table with a selection cursor Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 23/57] mm/collapse: give a refused region a second chance Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 24/57] mm/collapse: report each candidate's outcome to tracing Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 25/57] mm/collapse: collapse anonymous memory with the new engine Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 26/57] mm/collapse: give collapse_single_pmd() the range to work on Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 27/57] mm/collapse: scan the windows a VMA can hold Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 28/57] mm/collapse: remove the mechanism the engine replaces Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 29/57] mm/collapse: move what a collapse is judged on into collapse.c Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 30/57] mm/collapse: name the max_ptes ceiling after collapse Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 31/57] mm/khugepaged: count collapses where khugepaged makes them Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 32/57] mm/collapse: move the file collapse into collapse.c Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 33/57] mm/collapse: split collapse into a scan and a run Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 34/57] mm/collapse: implement MADV_COLLAPSE in madvise.c Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 35/57] mm/madvise: drop MADV_COLLAPSE's redundant mm reference Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 36/57] mm/collapse: report what the scan found Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 37/57] mm/collapse: report what the fault-in pass paid Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 38/57] mm/collapse: report the round, and what it made faulters wait Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 39/57] mm/collapse: name the file collapse's tracepoints after collapse Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 40/57] mm/collapse: remove the tracepoints of the mechanism that is gone Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 41/57] mm/collapse: give collapse its own trace header Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 42/57] mm/collapse: allow error injection into the freeze Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 43/57] mm/khugepaged: check the scan budget before the work, not after Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 44/57] mm/khugepaged: hold the address space open across a scan Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 45/57] mm/collapse: take a per-VMA read lock for the round Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 46/57] mm/khugepaged: scan under a per-VMA read lock Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:45 ` [RFC PATCH 47/57] mm/madvise: collapse " Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 48/57] mm/collapse: assert the mm reference the engine relies on Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 49/57] mm/khugepaged: drop the mmap_lock barrier from __khugepaged_exit() Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 50/57] selftests/mm: attribute collapses by candidate event alone Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 51/57] selftests/mm: cover collapse inside a sub-PMD VMA Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 52/57] selftests/mm: cover a hole-y window in " Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 53/57] selftests/mm: cover collapse of mlocked ranges Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 54/57] selftests/mm: cover collapse beside a MADV_FREE'd page Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 55/57] selftests/mm: cover collapse beside a pinned page Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 56/57] selftests/mm: cover the scaled max_ptes_shared limit Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-16 22:46 ` [RFC PATCH 57/57] MAINTAINERS: add an entry for collapse Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-17 8:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-17 8:08 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-17 10:12 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-17 2:02 ` [RFC PATCH 00/57] mm/collapse: rebuild collapse on migration primitives Zi Yan
2026-08-17 10:07 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-17 8:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-17 13:38 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-18 13:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-18 14:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-18 14:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-19 18:08 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-24 14:22 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-24 14:59 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-18 14:15 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-18 14:41 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-19 18:22 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-19 18:14 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-18 13:55 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-19 17:09 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
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