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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Anthony Yznaga <anthony.yznaga@oracle.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Sarthak Sharma <sarthak.sharma@arm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Aishwarya TCV <Aishwarya.TCV@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] selftests: mm: fix and speedup "droppable" test
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2026 09:35:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <63ed20dd-e572-4ac5-8cb4-7eed2f42f2fc@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260612012910.84424-1-sj@kernel.org>

On 6/12/26 03:29, SeongJae Park wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 12:01:55 +0200 "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
>> The droppable test currently relies on creating memory pressure in a
>> child process to trigger dropping the droppable pages.
>>
>> That not only takes a long time on some machines (allocating and filling
>> all that memory), on large machines this will not work as we hardcode the
>> area size to 134217728 bytes.
>>
>> ... further, we rely on timeouts to detect that memory was not dropped,
>> which is really suboptimal.
>>
>> Instead, let's just use MADV_PAGEOUT on a 2 MiB region. MADV_PAGEOUT works
>> with droppable memory even without swap.
>>
>> There is the low chance of MADV_PAGEOUT failing to drop a page because
>> of speculative references. We'll wait 1s and retry 10 times to
>> rule that unlikely case out as best as we can.
>>
>> On a machine without swap:
>>
>> 	$ ./droppable
>> 	TAP version 13
>> 	1..1
>> 	ok 1 madvise(MADV_PAGEOUT) behavior
>> 	# Totals: pass:1 fail:0 xfail:0 xpass:0 skip:0 error:0
>>
>> Reported-by: Aishwarya TCV <Aishwarya.TCV@arm.com>
>> Fixes: 9651fcedf7b9 ("mm: add MAP_DROPPABLE for designating always lazily freeable mappings")
> 
> Because this is a fix for a test, I think not Cc-ing stable@ is ok.  Further,
> arguably this is not a fix but an improvement?  No strong opinion, just
> thinking loud.

The test will hang forever on very large machines and timeout on large machines,
so it's a fix not just an improvement.

I think Andrew just automatically CCs stable on any test fixes, so yeah, CC;
stable makes sense for this one as well.

> 
>> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand (Arm) <david@kernel.org>
> 
> Reviewed-by: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
> 
>> ---
>>  tools/testing/selftests/mm/droppable.c | 46 +++++++++++++++++++---------------
>>  1 file changed, 26 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/mm/droppable.c b/tools/testing/selftests/mm/droppable.c
>> index 30c8be37fcb9..57e1b6fc5569 100644
>> --- a/tools/testing/selftests/mm/droppable.c
>> +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/mm/droppable.c
>> @@ -17,10 +17,10 @@
>>  
>>  int main(int argc, char *argv[])
>>  {
>> -	size_t alloc_size = 134217728;
>> -	size_t page_size = getpagesize();
>> +	const size_t alloc_size = 2 * 1024 * 1024;
>> +	int retry_count = 10;
>> +	bool dropped;
>>  	void *alloc;
>> -	pid_t child;
>>  
>>  	ksft_print_header();
>>  	ksft_set_plan(1);
>> @@ -35,26 +35,32 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
>>  		exit(KSFT_FAIL);
>>  	}
>>  	memset(alloc, 'A', alloc_size);
>> -	for (size_t i = 0; i < alloc_size; i += page_size)
>> -		assert(*(uint8_t *)(alloc + i));
>> -
>> -	child = fork();
>> -	assert(child >= 0);
>> -	if (!child) {
>> -		for (;;)
>> -			*(char *)malloc(page_size) = 'B';
>> -	}
>>  
>> -	for (bool done = false; !done;) {
>> -		for (size_t i = 0; i < alloc_size; i += page_size) {
>> -			if (!*(uint8_t *)(alloc + i)) {
>> -				done = true;
>> -				break;
>> +	while (retry_count--) {
>> +		if (madvise(alloc, alloc_size, MADV_PAGEOUT)) {
>> +			if (errno == EINVAL) {
>> +				ksft_test_result_skip("madvise(MADV_PAGEOUT) not supported\n");
>> +				exit(KSFT_SKIP);
> 
> This check is for a case that this test is running against an old kernel that
> doesn't have MADV_PAGEOUT?

Yes!

> 
> Assuming so, I was first thinking this check might not really needed, assuming
> the test runner would pick the kselftest code from the running kernel's source
> code.  But I recalled some people do get kselftest code from random place.  So
> this check seems nice to me.

Yeah, we try to handle older kernels on a best-effort basis. This one is rather
simple :)

Thanks!

-- 
Cheers,

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-12  7:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-11 10:01 [PATCH] selftests: mm: fix and speedup "droppable" test David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-11 11:07 ` Sarthak Sharma
2026-06-11 11:26   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-11 11:32     ` Lance Yang
2026-06-11 12:13     ` Sarthak Sharma
2026-06-11 11:15 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-11 11:19 ` Dev Jain
2026-06-11 11:26   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-11 11:28     ` Dev Jain
2026-06-12  1:29 ` SeongJae Park
2026-06-12  7:35   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-06-12  7:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-12  8:00   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-12  8:26     ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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