From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
Anthony Yznaga <anthony.yznaga@oracle.com>,
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
Sarthak Sharma <sarthak.sharma@arm.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Aishwarya TCV <Aishwarya.TCV@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] selftests: mm: fix and speedup "droppable" test
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2026 09:35:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <63ed20dd-e572-4ac5-8cb4-7eed2f42f2fc@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260612012910.84424-1-sj@kernel.org>
On 6/12/26 03:29, SeongJae Park wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 12:01:55 +0200 "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>> The droppable test currently relies on creating memory pressure in a
>> child process to trigger dropping the droppable pages.
>>
>> That not only takes a long time on some machines (allocating and filling
>> all that memory), on large machines this will not work as we hardcode the
>> area size to 134217728 bytes.
>>
>> ... further, we rely on timeouts to detect that memory was not dropped,
>> which is really suboptimal.
>>
>> Instead, let's just use MADV_PAGEOUT on a 2 MiB region. MADV_PAGEOUT works
>> with droppable memory even without swap.
>>
>> There is the low chance of MADV_PAGEOUT failing to drop a page because
>> of speculative references. We'll wait 1s and retry 10 times to
>> rule that unlikely case out as best as we can.
>>
>> On a machine without swap:
>>
>> $ ./droppable
>> TAP version 13
>> 1..1
>> ok 1 madvise(MADV_PAGEOUT) behavior
>> # Totals: pass:1 fail:0 xfail:0 xpass:0 skip:0 error:0
>>
>> Reported-by: Aishwarya TCV <Aishwarya.TCV@arm.com>
>> Fixes: 9651fcedf7b9 ("mm: add MAP_DROPPABLE for designating always lazily freeable mappings")
>
> Because this is a fix for a test, I think not Cc-ing stable@ is ok. Further,
> arguably this is not a fix but an improvement? No strong opinion, just
> thinking loud.
The test will hang forever on very large machines and timeout on large machines,
so it's a fix not just an improvement.
I think Andrew just automatically CCs stable on any test fixes, so yeah, CC;
stable makes sense for this one as well.
>
>> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand (Arm) <david@kernel.org>
>
> Reviewed-by: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
>
>> ---
>> tools/testing/selftests/mm/droppable.c | 46 +++++++++++++++++++---------------
>> 1 file changed, 26 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/mm/droppable.c b/tools/testing/selftests/mm/droppable.c
>> index 30c8be37fcb9..57e1b6fc5569 100644
>> --- a/tools/testing/selftests/mm/droppable.c
>> +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/mm/droppable.c
>> @@ -17,10 +17,10 @@
>>
>> int main(int argc, char *argv[])
>> {
>> - size_t alloc_size = 134217728;
>> - size_t page_size = getpagesize();
>> + const size_t alloc_size = 2 * 1024 * 1024;
>> + int retry_count = 10;
>> + bool dropped;
>> void *alloc;
>> - pid_t child;
>>
>> ksft_print_header();
>> ksft_set_plan(1);
>> @@ -35,26 +35,32 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
>> exit(KSFT_FAIL);
>> }
>> memset(alloc, 'A', alloc_size);
>> - for (size_t i = 0; i < alloc_size; i += page_size)
>> - assert(*(uint8_t *)(alloc + i));
>> -
>> - child = fork();
>> - assert(child >= 0);
>> - if (!child) {
>> - for (;;)
>> - *(char *)malloc(page_size) = 'B';
>> - }
>>
>> - for (bool done = false; !done;) {
>> - for (size_t i = 0; i < alloc_size; i += page_size) {
>> - if (!*(uint8_t *)(alloc + i)) {
>> - done = true;
>> - break;
>> + while (retry_count--) {
>> + if (madvise(alloc, alloc_size, MADV_PAGEOUT)) {
>> + if (errno == EINVAL) {
>> + ksft_test_result_skip("madvise(MADV_PAGEOUT) not supported\n");
>> + exit(KSFT_SKIP);
>
> This check is for a case that this test is running against an old kernel that
> doesn't have MADV_PAGEOUT?
Yes!
>
> Assuming so, I was first thinking this check might not really needed, assuming
> the test runner would pick the kselftest code from the running kernel's source
> code. But I recalled some people do get kselftest code from random place. So
> this check seems nice to me.
Yeah, we try to handle older kernels on a best-effort basis. This one is rather
simple :)
Thanks!
--
Cheers,
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-12 7:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-11 10:01 [PATCH] selftests: mm: fix and speedup "droppable" test David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-11 11:07 ` Sarthak Sharma
2026-06-11 11:26 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-11 11:32 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-11 12:13 ` Sarthak Sharma
2026-06-11 11:15 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-11 11:19 ` Dev Jain
2026-06-11 11:26 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-11 11:28 ` Dev Jain
2026-06-12 1:29 ` SeongJae Park
2026-06-12 7:35 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-06-12 7:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-12 8:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-12 8:26 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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