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From: Jianyong Wu <wujianyong@hygon.cn>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
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Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH v2 14/23] sched/cache: Drop prefer_sibling restriction for llc_balance
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2026 13:25:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a064643f494b45c9bb0b8290308a1329@hygon.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260901102917.GH776954@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hi Peter,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2026 6:29 PM
> To: Jianyong Wu <wujianyong@hygon.cn>
> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>; Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>;
> Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>; Chen Yu
> <yu.c.chen@intel.com>; Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>; Dietmar
> Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>; Steven Rostedt
> <rostedt@goodmis.org>; Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>; Mel Gorman
> <mgorman@suse.de>; Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>; K
> Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>; Shrikanth Hegde
> <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>; Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>; Andrew
> Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>; David Hildenbrand
> <david@kernel.org>; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linux-mm@kvack.org;
> jianyong.wu@outlook.com; Yuan Zhong <zhongyuan@hygon.cn>; Huangsj
> <huangsj@hygon.cn>; Fengyu Wang <wangfengyu@hygon.cn>; Zhiwei Ying
> <yingzhiwei@hygon.cn>; justin.he@arm.com
> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 14/23] sched/cache: Drop prefer_sibling
> restriction for llc_balance
> 
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2026 at 08:28:07PM +0800, Jianyong Wu wrote:
> > group_llc_balance performs balancing across LLC and NUMA domains.
> > The prefer_sibling constraint unnecessarily limits its scope, so remove
> > this requirement entirely from the branch condition.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Jianyong Wu <wujianyong@hygon.cn>
> > ---
> >  kernel/sched/fair.c | 6 +++---
> >  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > index 584297528a9e..5c35a43e5e38 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -13274,9 +13274,9 @@ static struct sched_group
> *sched_balance_find_src_group(struct lb_env *env)
> >  	 * Try to move all excess tasks to a sibling domain of the busiest
> >  	 * group's child domain.
> >  	 */
> > -	if (sds.prefer_sibling && local->group_type == group_has_spare &&
> > -	    (busiest->group_type == group_llc_balance ||
> > -	    sibling_imbalance(env, &sds, busiest, local) > 1))
> > +	if (local->group_type == group_has_spare &&
> > +	    ((busiest->group_type == group_llc_balance) ||
> (sds.prefer_sibling &&
> > +	    sibling_imbalance(env, &sds, busiest, local) > 1)))
> >  		goto force_balance;
> 
> Not sure about blanked disable. Maybe only disable when cache aware
> scheduling is present and enabled?

The prefer_sibling bypass is already limited to cache aware scheduling.

group_llc_balance can only be selected when llc_balance() returns true,
and llc_balance() immediately return false when sched aware scheduling
is not active. When CONFIG_SCHED_CACHE is disabled, the corresponding
stub also cannot produce group_llc_balance.

Therefore, the changed branch cannot bypass prefer_sibling when cache
aware scheduling is absent or disabled.

Thanks
Jianyong



  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-01 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-27 12:27 [RFC PATCH v2 00/23] sched: Scale cache-aware aggregation at LLC granularity Jianyong Wu
2026-08-27 12:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/23] sched/topology: Add llc_to_node() to translate LLC id to NUMA node Jianyong Wu
2026-08-29 10:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-31  9:43     ` Jianyong Wu
2026-08-27 12:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/23] sched/topology: Introduce a NUMA distance matrix with unique distance values Jianyong Wu
2026-08-31 11:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-01  6:57     ` Jianyong Wu
2026-09-01  7:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-01  7:37         ` Jianyong Wu
2026-09-01  8:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-02  7:11     ` Jianyong Wu
2026-08-27 12:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/23] sched/topology: Introduce a macro to traverse node Jianyong Wu
2026-08-27 12:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/23] sched/topology: Introduce a method to calculate the llc distance Jianyong Wu
2026-08-31 13:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-27 12:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/23] sched/topology: Introduce a macro to traverse LLC inside node Jianyong Wu
2026-08-27 12:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/23] sched/topology: Add sd_node for the NODE sched domain Jianyong Wu
2026-08-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/23] sched/cache: Prioritize preferred NUMA node selection over LLC selection Jianyong Wu
2026-08-31 13:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-01  7:44     ` Jianyong Wu
2026-08-31 13:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-01  8:05     ` Jianyong Wu
2026-08-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/23] sched/topology: Introduce a per-CPU tasks NUMA preferred counter Jianyong Wu
2026-08-31 13:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-01  8:14     ` Jianyong Wu
2026-08-31 13:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-01  8:31     ` Jianyong Wu
2026-09-01 10:21       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-01 13:02         ` Jianyong Wu
2026-08-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/23] sched/cache: Account percpu sd task NUMA preference Jianyong Wu
2026-09-01  7:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-01  8:41     ` Jianyong Wu
2026-08-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/23] sched/topology: Add per-sd scratch for the load balance affinity score Jianyong Wu
2026-09-01  8:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-01 11:55     ` Jianyong Wu
2026-08-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/23] sched/cache: Introduce helpers for task migration decisions Jianyong Wu
2026-09-01  9:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-02  5:08     ` Jianyong Wu
2026-09-01 11:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-02  5:46     ` Jianyong Wu
2026-09-02 21:11   ` Tim Chen
2026-09-03  2:04     ` Jianyong Wu
2026-08-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/23] sched/cache: Introduce rq affinity gain calculation Jianyong Wu
2026-09-01  9:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-01 12:23     ` Jianyong Wu
2026-09-01 10:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-01 12:34     ` Jianyong Wu
2026-08-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/23] sched/cache: Pick optimal src rq/group using affinity promotion metric Jianyong Wu
2026-08-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/23] sched/cache: Drop prefer_sibling restriction for llc_balance Jianyong Wu
2026-09-01 10:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-01 13:25     ` Jianyong Wu [this message]
2026-08-28  1:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/23] sched/cache: Judge migration eligibility in LLC granularity Jianyong Wu
2026-08-28  2:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/23] sched/cache: Allow un-throttled active balance to spread out of a full LLC Jianyong Wu
2026-08-28  2:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/23] sched/fair: Fine-granularity NUMA balancing Jianyong Wu
2026-09-01 12:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-02  6:43     ` Jianyong Wu
2026-08-28  2:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/23] sched/cache: Scan all prefer nodes in thread group Jianyong Wu
2026-08-28  2:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/23] sched/cache: Remove preferred LLC/node check no longer needed Jianyong Wu
2026-08-28  2:11 ` [RFC PATCH v2 20/23] sched/cache: Estimate utilization of the whole thread group Jianyong Wu
2026-09-01 14:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-28  2:13 ` [RFC PATCH v2 21/23] sched/cache: Spread workloads within an estimated LLC range Jianyong Wu
2026-08-28  2:14 ` [RFC PATCH v2 22/23] sched/cache: Walk the preferred node from the preferred LLC Jianyong Wu
2026-08-28  2:15 ` [RFC PATCH v2 23/23] sched/debug: Print task preferred LLC for scheduler debugging Jianyong Wu

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