From: Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Akilesh Kailash <akailash@google.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v2] f2fs: another way to set large folio by remembering inode number
Date: Wed, 27 May 2026 15:42:07 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ahcQz9Z227RoWOFL@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ahaOpdw7NgsWe8J4@infradead.org>
On 05/26, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 03:31:08AM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > And what are you trying to say us with that?
> > >
> > > This means, high-order pages were used up by EROFS which sets large folio by
> > > default. So, I wanted to say the concern was based on actual data which was what
> > > Mattew asked.
> >
> > This isn't that though. What you actually need is to show that high order
> > allocations are _failing_.
>
> Exactly.
>
> > If what you want is large folios readily available, then what you want
> > is large folios used _everywhere_ because then they're easy to get!
>
> Yes.
>
> > If there's small folios in use, you need to reclaim a lot of memory in
> > order to reassemble large folios (it's the birthday paradox, similar to
> > the hash collision problem).
>
> Yeah. Although it seems we have an issue with > order costly folios
> at the moment, but we should fix this.
>
> And f2fs really needs to up the game and support large folios fully
> so that we can run that kind of analysis there as well, without this
> all this is just piling hacks on top of other hacks.
Ok, I'll revisit the large folio support in f2fs, and try to revisit the
problem afterwards.
Thanks,
>
>
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[not found] ` <adhPZxtbZxgU-37v@google.com>
2026-04-14 8:02 ` [PATCH v2] f2fs: another way to set large folio by remembering inode number Christoph Hellwig
2026-04-15 16:44 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-04-15 17:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-15 22:02 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-04-15 23:49 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-04-16 1:19 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-21 8:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-21 15:57 ` Theodore Tso
2026-05-21 17:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-05-22 3:59 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-22 12:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-05-22 14:04 ` [f2fs-dev] " Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-25 5:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-26 1:21 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-26 2:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-05-26 3:47 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-27 6:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-27 6:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-27 15:42 ` Jaegeuk Kim [this message]
2026-05-25 5:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-22 3:32 ` [f2fs-dev] " Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-22 3:53 ` Eric Biggers
2026-05-22 4:02 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-22 10:01 ` Christian Brauner
2026-05-22 14:11 ` Theodore Tso
2026-05-22 17:08 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-22 22:41 ` Theodore Tso
2026-05-26 1:10 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-26 2:35 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-05-26 3:34 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-26 3:35 ` Randy Dunlap
2026-05-26 4:12 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-26 13:42 ` Theodore Tso
2026-05-26 16:14 ` Bart Van Assche
2026-05-27 6:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-27 15:59 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-26 21:52 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-27 1:21 ` Theodore Tso
2026-05-27 2:43 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-27 3:30 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-05-27 15:39 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2026-05-27 6:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-27 1:15 ` Bart Van Assche
2026-05-25 5:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-22 9:59 ` Christian Brauner
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