* Re[6]: Linux Help [not found] ` <16636.21568.952345.578826@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> @ 2004-07-20 15:20 ` Kev 2004-07-20 15:55 ` Ray Olszewski 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Kev @ 2004-07-20 15:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-admin, linux-newbie Hi guys... i'm going to do the follwing as a 1st step, i got a Debian 3 (woody) basic 1 CD and i'm going to have postfix as the SMTP relay.... the BOX is a Cyrix 233Mhz with 64MB ram, (Compaq Presario) 4GB HDD with 2 Lan Cards i'm going to install Webmin 1.5, and also DHCP for Debian that comes with Debian (on the web site) do you gusy thing i can do this with a basic Debian instalation or should i download all other CD's from the site ? now the commands like setup on Redhat dont work, how come ? do i need to install any thing else ? leter on i'm going to install a 2nd HDD and Squid and BIND and some AV for the email relay, and the RAM to 256MB. if any one can give me the basic how to do this, or a link to some sites (Linux for Dummies :-) i know i sound really dumb, well i really dont know much about linux sorry !!! On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 00:07:44 +0100 Glynn Clements <glynn.clements@virgin.net> wrote: >--> >--> Kev wrote: >--> >--> > i was just saying what i will be running on the server, i was asking if >--> > i can run all that on a P1/166Mhz >--> >--> It depends upon the amount of network traffic. >--> >--> Networking daemons (and the IP filtering code) only consume CPU time >--> when they're actually doing something, and the amount of CPU time used >--> is roughly proportional to the amount of work they have to do. >--> >--> Try it. If the load average is consistently high, you need a faster >--> CPU. If the hard disk is always busy, you need more RAM. If the box is >--> mostly idle but it still seems too slow, you need a faster Internet >--> connection. >--> >--> -- >--> Glynn Clements <glynn.clements@virgin.net> >--> ------- Web Hosting at cheep price, stating at $1 per moth with your own domain, .COM, .NET, .LK, .ORG etc.. PHP, CGI, Perl, MySQL, Cpanel 9, POP3, POP3s, SMTP, IMAP, FTP, http://www.orbitsl.net - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re[6]: Linux Help 2004-07-20 15:20 ` Re[6]: Linux Help Kev @ 2004-07-20 15:55 ` Ray Olszewski 2004-07-20 16:26 ` Re[7]: " Kev 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Ray Olszewski @ 2004-07-20 15:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-newbie At 09:20 PM 7/20/2004 +0600, Kev wrote: >Hi guys... Kev -- It's generally considered discourteous to cross-post messages to multiple mailing lists. In this instance, I've removed the linux-admin posting from my reply. >i'm going to do the follwing as a 1st step, > >i got a Debian 3 (woody) basic 1 CD and i'm going to have postfix as the >SMTP relay.... the BOX is a Cyrix 233Mhz with 64MB ram, (Compaq Presario) >4GB HDD with 2 Lan Cards If you plan to add Web caching to this system (as you mentioned in an earlier emssage), I think you'll find 64 MB to be too little memory for good performance. Everything else should be fine. In Linux, default installs do NOT automatically enable DMA on hard disks. You'll want to do that in an init script (using the app hdparm, from the Debian package hdparm). In my prior reply, I didn't list postfix among the SMTP candidates, but it is another good one, so should be fine for your purposes (though I myself have no recent experience using it). >i'm going to install Webmin 1.5, and also DHCP for Debian that comes >with Debian (on the web site) > >do you gusy thing i can do this with a basic Debian instalation or >should i download all other CD's from the site ? The usual way to maintain a Debian system after setup is by doing online updates. In fact, unless you have an awful Internet connection, that's usually the best way to install. That is, get a set of boot floppies (or a boot CD, depending on your hardware), install the (very small) Debian base from it, then use apt-get to add the packages you need from an online repository. This approach will assure that you get the latest versions of things (Debian CDs, like pretty much all Linux distro CDs, aren't updated anywhere nearly as regularly as the online repositories). In particular, it will makes sure that you get all security upgrades ... VERY important for any system that is connected directly to the Internet (as a router is). >now the commands like >setup on Redhat dont work, how come ? do i need to install any thing >else ? If you are asking why a particular command specific to Red Hat doesn't work on a Debian install, then the answer is probably that Debian doesn't include the app or the script that implements the command. Not being a Red Hat user, I don't know what "setup" on a default RH install does. If you are asking a more general question, you'lll have to be more clear ... I have no way of knowing what Debian commands you think are "like setup on Redhat". Also what "now" referred to, and if "dont work" means anything more subtle than that the command itself is not present. >leter on i'm going to install a 2nd HDD and Squid and BIND and some AV >for the email relay, and the RAM to 256MB. All easy to do using Debian's apt-get and apt-cache package management system. (Except I don't know what "some AV for the email relay" means ... I can't parse "AV" in this context.) The extra RAM should handle your Web caching needs quite nicely. I'm not sure if you'll need the second hard disk ... it depends on traffic volumes (SMTP and Web caching). >if any one can give me the basic how to do this, or a link to some sites >(Linux for Dummies :-) The Debian installer itself should walk you through the installation process. The big gotcha to watch out for is NIC modules ... you don't say what NICs you are using, and stock Debian Linux kernels only support the most common ones directly. For others, you'll have to install kernel modules ... the installer prompts you to do this, but it doesn't help you identify the ones you need. Last time I checked, the Debian install process still used an old kernel (2.2.something). Once you have the system configured, and before you set it up to route and firewall, you'll want to update to a newer kernel ... at least 2.4.whatever_is_current, maybe even 2.6.something. Unless you want to compile you own kernel (a good idea for a router, but maybe not such a good idea for a beginner), you apt-get install a suitable kernel-image-* package. >i know i sound really dumb, well i really dont know much about linux >sorry !!! - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re[7]: Linux Help 2004-07-20 15:55 ` Ray Olszewski @ 2004-07-20 16:26 ` Kev 2004-07-20 16:54 ` Ray Olszewski 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Kev @ 2004-07-20 16:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ray Olszewski; +Cc: linux-newbie sorry about the 2 maling lists :) >--> If you plan to add Web caching to this system (as you mentioned in an >--> earlier emssage), I think you'll find 64 MB to be too little memory for >--> good performance. Everything else should be fine. will be going for 256MB once i install Squid LAN Card are Realtec both same model , a comm one but cant remember the exact model tho, sorry >--> system. (Except I don't know what "some AV for the email relay" means ... I >--> can't parse "AV" in this context.) The extra RAM should handle your Web AV = AntiVirus for the SMTP relay. but not sure what i'm going to use. On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:55:32 -0700 Ray Olszewski <ray@comarre.com> wrote: >--> At 09:20 PM 7/20/2004 +0600, Kev wrote: >--> >Hi guys... >--> >--> Kev -- It's generally considered discourteous to cross-post messages to >--> multiple mailing lists. In this instance, I've removed the linux-admin >--> posting from my reply. >--> >--> >i'm going to do the follwing as a 1st step, >--> > >--> >i got a Debian 3 (woody) basic 1 CD and i'm going to have postfix as the >--> >SMTP relay.... the BOX is a Cyrix 233Mhz with 64MB ram, (Compaq Presario) >--> >4GB HDD with 2 Lan Cards >--> >--> If you plan to add Web caching to this system (as you mentioned in an >--> earlier emssage), I think you'll find 64 MB to be too little memory for >--> good performance. Everything else should be fine. >--> >--> In Linux, default installs do NOT automatically enable DMA on hard disks. >--> You'll want to do that in an init script (using the app hdparm, from the >--> Debian package hdparm). >--> >--> In my prior reply, I didn't list postfix among the SMTP candidates, but it >--> is another good one, so should be fine for your purposes (though I myself >--> have no recent experience using it). >--> >--> >i'm going to install Webmin 1.5, and also DHCP for Debian that comes >--> >with Debian (on the web site) >--> > >--> >do you gusy thing i can do this with a basic Debian instalation or >--> >should i download all other CD's from the site ? >--> >--> The usual way to maintain a Debian system after setup is by doing online >--> updates. In fact, unless you have an awful Internet connection, that's >--> usually the best way to install. That is, get a set of boot floppies (or a >--> boot CD, depending on your hardware), install the (very small) Debian base >--> from it, then use apt-get to add the packages you need from an online >--> repository. >--> >--> This approach will assure that you get the latest versions of things >--> (Debian CDs, like pretty much all Linux distro CDs, aren't updated anywhere >--> nearly as regularly as the online repositories). In particular, it will >--> makes sure that you get all security upgrades ... VERY important for any >--> system that is connected directly to the Internet (as a router is). >--> >--> >now the commands like >--> >setup on Redhat dont work, how come ? do i need to install any thing >--> >else ? >--> >--> If you are asking why a particular command specific to Red Hat doesn't work >--> on a Debian install, then the answer is probably that Debian doesn't >--> include the app or the script that implements the command. Not being a Red >--> Hat user, I don't know what "setup" on a default RH install does. >--> >--> If you are asking a more general question, you'lll have to be more clear >--> ... I have no way of knowing what Debian commands you think are "like setup >--> on Redhat". Also what "now" referred to, and if "dont work" means anything >--> more subtle than that the command itself is not present. >--> >--> >leter on i'm going to install a 2nd HDD and Squid and BIND and some AV >--> >for the email relay, and the RAM to 256MB. >--> >--> All easy to do using Debian's apt-get and apt-cache package management >--> system. (Except I don't know what "some AV for the email relay" means ... I >--> can't parse "AV" in this context.) The extra RAM should handle your Web >--> caching needs quite nicely. I'm not sure if you'll need the second hard >--> disk ... it depends on traffic volumes (SMTP and Web caching). >--> >--> >if any one can give me the basic how to do this, or a link to some sites >--> >(Linux for Dummies :-) >--> >--> The Debian installer itself should walk you through the installation >--> process. The big gotcha to watch out for is NIC modules ... you don't say >--> what NICs you are using, and stock Debian Linux kernels only support the >--> most common ones directly. For others, you'll have to install kernel >--> modules ... the installer prompts you to do this, but it doesn't help you >--> identify the ones you need. >--> >--> Last time I checked, the Debian install process still used an old kernel >--> (2.2.something). Once you have the system configured, and before you set it >--> up to route and firewall, you'll want to update to a newer kernel ... at >--> least 2.4.whatever_is_current, maybe even 2.6.something. Unless you want to >--> compile you own kernel (a good idea for a router, but maybe not such a good >--> idea for a beginner), you apt-get install a suitable kernel-image-* package. >--> >--> >--> >i know i sound really dumb, well i really dont know much about linux >--> >sorry !!! >--> >--> >--> - >--> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in >--> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >--> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >--> Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs >--> ------- Web Hosting at cheep price, stating at $1 per moth with your own domain, .COM, .NET, .LK, .ORG etc.. 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* Re[7]: Linux Help 2004-07-20 16:26 ` Re[7]: " Kev @ 2004-07-20 16:54 ` Ray Olszewski 2004-07-20 17:01 ` Re[8]: " Kev 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Ray Olszewski @ 2004-07-20 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-newbie At 10:26 PM 7/20/2004 +0600, Kev wrote: [...] >LAN Card are Realtec both same model , a comm one but cant remember the >exact model tho, sorry If memory serves (I'm not certain, though), the stock Debian install kernel does NOT contain support for NICs that use the rtl8139 driver (or the newer 8139too driver). If that's the "comm one" you are referring to, you will need to add a module for it to do an online install. > >--> system. (Except I don't know what "some AV for the email relay" > means ... I > >--> can't parse "AV" in this context.) The extra RAM should handle your Web > >AV = AntiVirus for the SMTP relay. >but not sure what i'm going to use. Ah. I guess that's why words communicate better than made-up abbreviations (for me, AV = audio-visual, but that made no sense in context). I just skimmed the Debian package list (for Sid; Woody will be less complete or current) and found that postfix has these associated packages: amavis-ng - AMaViS "Next Generation" amavisd-new - Interface between MTA and virus scanner/content filters amavisd-new-milter - Interface between sendmail-milter and amavisd-new postgrey - Greylisting implementation for Postfix webmin-postfix - postfix control module for webmin Not having used any of this stuff myself, I can neither recommend nor criticize it ... just let you know it is (probably) there, for you to take a look at. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re[8]: Linux Help 2004-07-20 16:54 ` Ray Olszewski @ 2004-07-20 17:01 ` Kev 2004-07-20 17:08 ` James Miller 2004-07-20 21:43 ` Re[8]: " Peter Garrett 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Kev @ 2004-07-20 17:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ray Olszewski; +Cc: linux-newbie >If memory serves (I'm not certain, though), the stock Debian install kernel >does NOT contain support for NICs that use the rtl8139 driver (or the newer >8139too driver). If that's the "comm one" you are referring to, you will >need to add a module for it to do an online install. LAN cards are both, Realtek RTL8139 :( On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 09:54:41 -0700 Ray Olszewski <ray@comarre.com> wrote: >At 10:26 PM 7/20/2004 +0600, Kev wrote: >[...] >>LAN Card are Realtec both same model , a comm one but cant remember the >>exact model tho, sorry > >If memory serves (I'm not certain, though), the stock Debian install kernel >does NOT contain support for NICs that use the rtl8139 driver (or the newer >8139too driver). If that's the "comm one" you are referring to, you will >need to add a module for it to do an online install. > >> >--> system. (Except I don't know what "some AV for the email relay" >> means ... I >> >--> can't parse "AV" in this context.) The extra RAM should handle your Web >> >>AV = AntiVirus for the SMTP relay. >>but not sure what i'm going to use. > >Ah. I guess that's why words communicate better than made-up abbreviations >(for me, AV = audio-visual, but that made no sense in context). > >I just skimmed the Debian package list (for Sid; Woody will be less >complete or current) and found that postfix has these associated packages: > > amavis-ng - AMaViS "Next Generation" > amavisd-new - Interface between MTA and virus scanner/content filters > amavisd-new-milter - Interface between sendmail-milter and amavisd-new > > postgrey - Greylisting implementation for Postfix > webmin-postfix - postfix control module for webmin > >Not having used any of this stuff myself, I can neither recommend nor >criticize it ... just let you know it is (probably) there, for you to take >a look at. > > > >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in >the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs > ------- Web Hosting at cheep price, stating at $1 per moth with your own domain, .COM, .NET, .LK, .ORG etc.. PHP, CGI, Perl, MySQL, Cpanel 9, POP3, POP3s, SMTP, IMAP, FTP, http://www.orbitsl.net - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re[8]: Linux Help 2004-07-20 17:01 ` Re[8]: " Kev @ 2004-07-20 17:08 ` James Miller 2004-07-20 17:28 ` Ray Olszewski 2004-07-20 21:43 ` Re[8]: " Peter Garrett 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: James Miller @ 2004-07-20 17:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-newbie On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Kev wrote: > >If memory serves (I'm not certain, though), the stock Debian install kernel > >does NOT contain support for NICs that use the rtl8139 driver (or the newer > >8139too driver). If that's the "comm one" you are referring to, you will > >need to add a module for it to do an online install. > > LAN cards are both, Realtek RTL8139 I know I'm being timorous for questioning your memory here Ray, but I'm almost sure when I did my Debian install here (starting from floppies) on my machine that has an onboard rtl8139 NIC, I did get network support without loading of additional modules. If I'm wrong - well, what do you expect from a newbie? :) James - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re[8]: Linux Help 2004-07-20 17:08 ` James Miller @ 2004-07-20 17:28 ` Ray Olszewski 2004-07-20 17:56 ` Re[9]: " Kev 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Ray Olszewski @ 2004-07-20 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-newbie At 12:08 PM 7/20/2004 -0500, James Miller wrote: >On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Kev wrote: > > > >If memory serves (I'm not certain, though), the stock Debian install > kernel > > >does NOT contain support for NICs that use the rtl8139 driver (or the > newer > > >8139too driver). If that's the "comm one" you are referring to, you will > > >need to add a module for it to do an online install. > > > > LAN cards are both, Realtek RTL8139 > >I know I'm being timorous for questioning your memory here Ray, but I'm >almost sure when I did my Debian install here (starting from floppies) on >my machine that has an onboard rtl8139 NIC, I did get network support >without loading of additional modules. If I'm wrong - well, what do you >expect from a newbie? :) About as much as I expect from an old timer with a failing memory. (That's why I said I wasn't certsin when I posted it ... being lazy, these days I *always* put a tulip-based NIC in any system I am setting up, then switch to its "real" NIC after I have the kernel I actually want to use on the system installed.) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re[9]: Linux Help 2004-07-20 17:28 ` Ray Olszewski @ 2004-07-20 17:56 ` Kev 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Kev @ 2004-07-20 17:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ray Olszewski; +Cc: linux-newbie FOUND IT > Realtec ? Maybe 8139too or 8139cp... RealTek RTL-8029 ? that is ne ... . > ( ne is generally a module I constantly try because NE1/2000 are widely > used :) ). > Oh well, command is "modprobe 8139too" or "modprobe 8139cp" or "modrpobe ne" ... after you found out which one works, put it into /etc/modules. THANKS GUYS !!!!! On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:28:31 -0700 Ray Olszewski <ray@comarre.com> wrote: >At 12:08 PM 7/20/2004 -0500, James Miller wrote: >>On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Kev wrote: >> >> > >If memory serves (I'm not certain, though), the stock Debian install >> kernel >> > >does NOT contain support for NICs that use the rtl8139 driver (or the >> newer >> > >8139too driver). If that's the "comm one" you are referring to, you will >> > >need to add a module for it to do an online install. >> > >> > LAN cards are both, Realtek RTL8139 >> >>I know I'm being timorous for questioning your memory here Ray, but I'm >>almost sure when I did my Debian install here (starting from floppies) on >>my machine that has an onboard rtl8139 NIC, I did get network support >>without loading of additional modules. If I'm wrong - well, what do you >>expect from a newbie? :) > >About as much as I expect from an old timer with a failing memory. (That's >why I said I wasn't certsin when I posted it ... being lazy, these days I >*always* put a tulip-based NIC in any system I am setting up, then switch >to its "real" NIC after I have the kernel I actually want to use on the >system installed.) > > > >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in >the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs > ------- Web Hosting at cheep price, stating at $1 per moth with your own domain, .COM, .NET, .LK, .ORG etc.. PHP, CGI, Perl, MySQL, Cpanel 9, POP3, POP3s, SMTP, IMAP, FTP, http://www.orbitsl.net - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Re[8]: Linux Help 2004-07-20 17:01 ` Re[8]: " Kev 2004-07-20 17:08 ` James Miller @ 2004-07-20 21:43 ` Peter Garrett 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Peter Garrett @ 2004-07-20 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-newbie list On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 03:01, Kev wrote: > >If memory serves (I'm not certain, though), the stock Debian install kernel > >does NOT contain support for NICs that use the rtl8139 driver (or the newer > >8139too driver). If that's the "comm one" you are referring to, you will > >need to add a module for it to do an online install. > > LAN cards are both, Realtek RTL8139 > > :( > > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 09:54:41 -0700 > Ray Olszewski <ray@comarre.com> wrote: > > >At 10:26 PM 7/20/2004 +0600, Kev wrote: > >[...] > >>LAN Card are Realtec both same model , a comm one but cant remember the > >>exact model tho, sorry > > > >If memory serves (I'm not certain, though), the stock Debian install kernel > >does NOT contain support for NICs that use the rtl8139 driver (or the newer > >8139too driver). If that's the "comm one" you are referring to, you will > >need to add a module for it to do an online install. > > > >> >--> system. (Except I don't know what "some AV for the email relay" > >> means ... I > >> >--> can't parse "AV" in this context.) The extra RAM should handle your Web > >> > >>AV = AntiVirus for the SMTP relay. > >>but not sure what i'm going to use. > > > >Ah. I guess that's why words communicate better than made-up abbreviations > >(for me, AV = audio-visual, but that made no sense in context). > > > >I just skimmed the Debian package list (for Sid; Woody will be less > >complete or current) and found that postfix has these associated packages: > > > > amavis-ng - AMaViS "Next Generation" > > amavisd-new - Interface between MTA and virus scanner/content filters > > amavisd-new-milter - Interface between sendmail-milter and amavisd-new > > > > postgrey - Greylisting implementation for Postfix > > webmin-postfix - postfix control module for webmin > > > >Not having used any of this stuff myself, I can neither recommend nor > >criticize it ... just let you know it is (probably) there, for you to take > >a look at. If you are installing Debian, you might want to look here: >http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2016&page=1 and here: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and I would recommend: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html - > > ------- -- Windows belongs to Microsoft: Linux belongs to humanity - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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