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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: chucklever@gmail.com, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Reinstate NFS exportability for JFFS2.
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:35:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1217597759.3454.356.camel@pmac.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <76bd70e30807311831p771d0f1eia3e303bd84919422@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 21:31 -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:00 PM, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 20:53 -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> >> For now it is sufficient, IMO.  NFSv4 doesn't implement a readdirplus
> >> operation, and the performance benefits of NFSv3 readdirplus are
> >> equivocal -- there isn't a strong desire to replicate the complexity
> >> of NFSv3 readdirplus in NFSv4.  I'm not even sure you can do it even
> >> with a single compound RPC, so even in the long run NFSv4 may not ever
> >> have the locking issues that NFSv3 does here.
> >
> > AFAICT NFSv4 does have the same recursion issues already. The call trace
> > goes fs->readdir() ... nfsd4_encode_dirent() ...
> > nfsd4_encode_dirent_fattr() ... lookup_one_len() ... fs->lookup().
> >
> > Or am I mistaken?
> 
> It looks like it needs a directory entry's dentry for a couple of reasons:
> 
> 1.  To determine whether a directory entry is a mount point
> 
> 2.  If the client has asked for file handles (via a bitmask) for the
> directory entries

Those are needed by NFSv3 too -- and can be handled with a lookup_fh()
method in the file system which is guaranteed to be called from within
the filldir callback, and some support in the VFS for checking if it's a
mountpoint.

NFSv4 introduces another problem though, which is that it seems to be
able to return the _full_ getattr() results for each object, and there's
no real way round the fact that we need to do the ->lookup() for that.

If sane clients aren't expected to _ask_ for that, though, then perhaps
it would be OK to fall back to something like the existing
readdir-to-buffer hack for that case, while most normal clients won't
trigger it.

-- 
David Woodhouse                            Open Source Technology Centre
David.Woodhouse@intel.com                              Intel Corporation




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-01 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1209670979.25560.587.camel@pmac.infradead.org>
     [not found] ` <20080501204820.GA5951@infradead.org>
     [not found]   ` <1209681898.25560.613.camel@pmac.infradead.org>
2008-05-02  1:38     ` [RFC] Reinstate NFS exportability for JFFS2 Neil Brown
2008-05-02 11:37       ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]         ` <1209728238.25560.686.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-02 14:08           ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-07-31 21:54       ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01  0:16         ` Neil Brown
     [not found]           ` <18578.21997.529551.676627-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01  0:40             ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]               ` <1217551230.3719.15.camel-Fexsq3y4057IgHVZqg5X0TlWvGAXklZc@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01  0:52                 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01  0:53               ` Chuck Lever
     [not found]                 ` <76bd70e30807311753m2785c6d3kd82edd1fe8b5f8b7-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01  1:00                   ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                     ` <1217552437.3719.30.camel-Fexsq3y4057IgHVZqg5X0TlWvGAXklZc@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01  1:31                       ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-01  8:13                         ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 13:35                         ` David Woodhouse [this message]
     [not found]                           ` <1217597759.3454.356.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01 13:56                             ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 16:05                               ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-01 16:19                                 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 17:47                                   ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-02 18:26                                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-02 20:42                                       ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-02 21:33                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-03  8:39                                           ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-03 11:56                                       ` Neil Brown
2008-08-03 17:15                                         ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-04  1:03                                           ` Neil Brown
     [not found]                                             ` <18582.21855.2092.903688-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-04  6:19                                               ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-05  8:51                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-05  8:59                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-05  9:47                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-05 23:06                                                   ` Neil Brown
2008-08-06  0:08                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-06 19:56                                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                       ` <20080806195635.GA31126@fieldses.org>
2008-08-06 20:10                                                         ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                           ` <1218053443.5111.148.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09 16:47                                                             ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 19:55                                                               ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                 ` <1218311710.26926.125.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09 20:01                                                                   ` [PATCH 1/4] Factor out nfsd_do_readdir() into its own function David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                     ` <1218312114.5063.5.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09 20:07                                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-09 20:02                                                                   ` [PATCH 2/4] Copy XFS readdir hack into nfsd code David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 20:08                                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-09 20:03                                                                   ` [PATCH 3/4] Remove XFS buffered readdir hack David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                     ` <1218312191.5063.8.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09 20:09                                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-09 20:03                                                                   ` [PATCH 4/4] Reinstate NFS exportability David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                     ` <1218312213.5063.9.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09 20:10                                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-17 18:22                                               ` [RFC] Reinstate NFS exportability for JFFS2 Andreas Dilger
2008-08-04 18:41                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 22:37                                               ` Neil Brown
2008-08-01  2:14               ` Neil Brown
     [not found]                 ` <18578.29049.38904.746701-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01  8:50                   ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 10:03                   ` Al Viro
2008-08-01 23:11                     ` Neil Brown
2008-07-31 21:54       ` [PATCH 1/4] Factor out nfsd_do_readdir() into its own function David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 21:54       ` [PATCH 2/4] Copy XFS readdir hack into nfsd code, introduce FS_NO_LOOKUP_IN_READDIR flag David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 21:55       ` [PATCH 3/4] Switch XFS to using FS_NO_LOOKUP_IN_READDIR, remove local readdir hack David Woodhouse
     [not found]       ` <18458.28833.539314.455215-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-31 21:55         ` [PATCH 4/4] [JFFS2] Reinstate NFS exportability David Woodhouse

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