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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Reinstate NFS exportability for JFFS2.
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 10:08:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080502140804.GA16959@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1209728238.25560.686.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 12:37:18PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 11:38 +1000, Neil Brown wrote:
> > Why is there a deadlock here?
> 
> Many file systems have their own locking, and lookup() can end up trying
> to re-take a lock which readdir() is already holding. In the JFFS2 case,
> it's the fs-internal inode mutex, which is required because the garbage
> collector can't use i_mutex for lock ordering reasons.
> 
> See also the readdir implementation and surrounding comments in
> fs/xfs/linux-2.6/xfs_file.c -- and the way GFS2 uses
> gfs2_glock_is_locked_by_me() to avoid the deadlock.
> 
> The annoying thing is that JFFS2 doesn't even _implement_ i_generation,
> so you get no more useful information out of the lookup() call anyway :)
> 
> > Both readdir and lookup are called with i_mutex held on the directory
> > so there should need to do any extra locking (he said, naively).  In
> > the readdirplus cases, i_mutex is held across both the readdir and the
> > lookup....
> > 
> > One problem with your proposed solution is that filehandles aren't all
> > the same length, so you cannot reliably leave space for them.
> 
> Not without moving stuff around during the postprocessing, I suppose.
> Which isn't very pretty -- but it's prettier than some of the hacks we
> have at the moment to avoid the deadlock.

This comes up periodically.  It would be great to finally get it fixed.
The last conversation I remember started at about:

	http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=119506226209056&w=2

Summary: one approach would be to define a ->readdirplus() that passes a
dentry to its equivalent of the ->filldir callback.  (Christoph points
out that returning a stat struct would be simpler.  But unfortunately we
need to check for mountpoints here, so that's not sufficient.)

--b.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-05-02 14:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1209670979.25560.587.camel@pmac.infradead.org>
     [not found] ` <20080501204820.GA5951@infradead.org>
     [not found]   ` <1209681898.25560.613.camel@pmac.infradead.org>
2008-05-02  1:38     ` [RFC] Reinstate NFS exportability for JFFS2 Neil Brown
2008-05-02 11:37       ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]         ` <1209728238.25560.686.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-02 14:08           ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2008-07-31 21:54       ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01  0:16         ` Neil Brown
     [not found]           ` <18578.21997.529551.676627-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01  0:40             ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]               ` <1217551230.3719.15.camel-Fexsq3y4057IgHVZqg5X0TlWvGAXklZc@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01  0:52                 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01  0:53               ` Chuck Lever
     [not found]                 ` <76bd70e30807311753m2785c6d3kd82edd1fe8b5f8b7-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01  1:00                   ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                     ` <1217552437.3719.30.camel-Fexsq3y4057IgHVZqg5X0TlWvGAXklZc@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01  1:31                       ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-01  8:13                         ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 13:35                         ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                           ` <1217597759.3454.356.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01 13:56                             ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 16:05                               ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-01 16:19                                 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 17:47                                   ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-02 18:26                                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-02 20:42                                       ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-02 21:33                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-03  8:39                                           ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-03 11:56                                       ` Neil Brown
2008-08-03 17:15                                         ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-04  1:03                                           ` Neil Brown
     [not found]                                             ` <18582.21855.2092.903688-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-04  6:19                                               ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-05  8:51                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-05  8:59                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-05  9:47                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-05 23:06                                                   ` Neil Brown
2008-08-06  0:08                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-06 19:56                                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                       ` <20080806195635.GA31126@fieldses.org>
2008-08-06 20:10                                                         ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                           ` <1218053443.5111.148.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09 16:47                                                             ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 19:55                                                               ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                 ` <1218311710.26926.125.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09 20:01                                                                   ` [PATCH 1/4] Factor out nfsd_do_readdir() into its own function David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                     ` <1218312114.5063.5.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09 20:07                                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-09 20:02                                                                   ` [PATCH 2/4] Copy XFS readdir hack into nfsd code David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 20:08                                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-09 20:03                                                                   ` [PATCH 3/4] Remove XFS buffered readdir hack David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                     ` <1218312191.5063.8.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09 20:09                                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-09 20:03                                                                   ` [PATCH 4/4] Reinstate NFS exportability David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                     ` <1218312213.5063.9.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09 20:10                                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-17 18:22                                               ` [RFC] Reinstate NFS exportability for JFFS2 Andreas Dilger
2008-08-04 18:41                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 22:37                                               ` Neil Brown
2008-08-01  2:14               ` Neil Brown
     [not found]                 ` <18578.29049.38904.746701-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01  8:50                   ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 10:03                   ` Al Viro
2008-08-01 23:11                     ` Neil Brown
2008-07-31 21:54       ` [PATCH 1/4] Factor out nfsd_do_readdir() into its own function David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 21:54       ` [PATCH 2/4] Copy XFS readdir hack into nfsd code, introduce FS_NO_LOOKUP_IN_READDIR flag David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 21:55       ` [PATCH 3/4] Switch XFS to using FS_NO_LOOKUP_IN_READDIR, remove local readdir hack David Woodhouse
     [not found]       ` <18458.28833.539314.455215-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-31 21:55         ` [PATCH 4/4] [JFFS2] Reinstate NFS exportability David Woodhouse

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