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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Steve Rago <sar-a+KepyhlMvJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com, Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	"jens.axboe" <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] improve the performance of large sequential write NFS workloads
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:44:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1261165443.20899.555.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1261164799.1947.123.camel@serenity>

On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 14:33 -0500, Steve Rago wrote:
> > > +void nfs_wait_woutstanding(struct inode *inode)
> > > +{
> > > +   if (nfs_max_woutstanding != 0) {
> > > +           unsigned long background_thresh;
> > > +           unsigned long dirty_thresh;
> > > +           long npages;
> > > +           struct nfs_inode *nfsi = NFS_I(inode);
> > > +
> > > +           get_dirty_limits(&background_thresh, &dirty_thresh, NULL, NULL);
> > > +           npages = global_page_state(NR_FILE_DIRTY) +
> > > +                    global_page_state(NR_UNSTABLE_NFS) +
> > > +                    global_page_state(NR_WRITEBACK);
> > > +           if (npages >= background_thresh)
> > > +                   wait_event(nfsi->writes_wq,
> > > +                      atomic_read(&nfsi->writes) < nfs_max_woutstanding);
> > > +   }
> > > +}
> > 
> > This looks utterly busted too, why the global state and not the nfs
> > client's bdi state?
> > 
> > Also, why create this extra workqueue and not simply use the congestion
> > interface that is present? If the congestion stuff doesn't work for you,
> > fix that, don't add extra muck like this.
> 
> Pages are a global resource.  Once we hit the dirty_threshold, the
> system is going to work harder to flush the pages out.  This code
> prevents the caller from creating more dirty pages in this state,
> thereby making matters worse, when eager writeback is enabled.

You misunderstand, dirty limits are per BDI, all those npages might be
for !NFS traffic, in which case forcing the NFS into sync mode might be
the wrong thing to do.

The dirty pages are no longer a global resource in the current Linux
tree.

> This wait queue is used for different purposes than the congestion_wait
> interface.  Here we are preventing the caller from proceeding if there
> are too many NFS writes outstanding for this thread and we are in a
> memory pressure state.  It has nothing to do with the state of the bdi
> congestion. 

I'm thinking it ought to, congestion is exactly that, when the device
gets backed up and need to get moving.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-12-18 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-17  2:03 [PATCH] improve the performance of large sequential write NFS workloads Steve Rago
2009-12-17  8:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-18 19:33   ` Steve Rago
2009-12-18 19:41     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-18 21:20       ` Steve Rago
2009-12-18 22:07         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-18 22:46           ` Steve Rago
2009-12-19  8:08         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-19 13:37           ` Steve Rago
2009-12-18 19:44     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-12-19 12:20   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-19 14:25     ` Steve Rago
2009-12-22  1:59       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-22 12:35         ` Jan Kara
     [not found]           ` <20091222123538.GB604-jyMamyUUXNJG4ohzP4jBZS1Fcj925eT/@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-23  8:43             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-23 13:32               ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                 ` <20091223133244.GB3159-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-24  5:25                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-24  1:26           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-22 13:01         ` Martin Knoblauch
     [not found]           ` <787373.9318.qm-rpBZDh8Qtqs5A34FEqDeB/u2YVrzzGjVVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-24  1:46             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-22 16:41         ` Steve Rago
2009-12-24  1:21           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-24 14:49             ` Steve Rago
2009-12-25  7:37               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-23 14:21         ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-23 18:05           ` Jan Kara
     [not found]             ` <20091223180551.GD3159-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-23 19:12               ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-24  2:52                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-24 12:04                   ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-25  5:56                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-30 16:22                       ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-31  5:04                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-31 19:13                           ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06  3:03                             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-06 16:56                               ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 18:26                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 18:37                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-06 18:52                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 19:07                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-06 19:21                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 19:53                                           ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 20:09                                             ` Jan Kara
2010-01-06 20:51                                               ` [PATCH 0/6] " Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                 ` <20100106205110.22547.85345.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-06 20:51                                                   ` [PATCH 6/6] NFS: Run COMMIT as an asynchronous RPC call when wbc->for_background is set Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                     ` <20100106205110.22547.31434.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-07  2:32                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-06 20:51                                                   ` [PATCH 5/6] VM: Use per-bdi unstable accounting to improve use of wbc->force_commit Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                     ` <20100106205110.22547.32584.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-07  2:34                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-06 20:51                                                   ` [PATCH 3/6] VM: Split out the accounting of unstable writes from BDI_RECLAIMABLE Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                     ` <20100106205110.22547.93554.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-07  1:48                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-06 20:51                                                   ` [PATCH 2/6] VM/NFS: The VM must tell the filesystem when to free reclaimable pages Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  2:29                                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07  4:49                                                       ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  5:03                                                         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07  5:30                                                           ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 14:37                                                             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07 14:41                                                               ` [PATCH 0/5] Re: [PATCH] improve the performance of large sequential write NFS workloads Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20100107144137.17158.53673.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-07 14:41                                                                   ` [PATCH 1/5] VFS: Ensure that writeback_single_inode() commits unstable writes Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 14:41                                                                   ` [PATCH 3/5] VM: Don't call bdi_stat(BDI_UNSTABLE) on non-nfs backing-devices Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 14:41                                                                   ` [PATCH 4/5] VM/NFS: The VM must tell the filesystem when to free reclaimable pages Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 14:41                                                                   ` [PATCH 2/5] VM: Split out the accounting of unstable writes from BDI_RECLAIMABLE Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 14:41                                                                   ` [PATCH 5/5] NFS: Run COMMIT as an asynchronous RPC call when wbc->for_background is set Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 20:51                                                   ` [PATCH 1/6] VFS: Ensure that writeback_single_inode() commits unstable writes Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                     ` <20100106205110.22547.17971.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-06 21:38                                                       ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                                                         ` <20100106213843.GD22781-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-06 21:48                                                           ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  2:18                                                     ` Wu Fengguang
     [not found]                                                       ` <1262839082.2185.15.camel@localhost>
2010-01-07  4:48                                                         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07  4:53                                                           ` [PATCH 0/5] Re: [PATCH] improve the performance of large sequential write NFS workloads Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                             ` <20100107045330.5986.55090.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-07  4:53                                                               ` [PATCH 1/5] VFS: Ensure that writeback_single_inode() commits unstable writes Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  4:53                                                               ` [PATCH 4/5] VM/NFS: The VM must tell the filesystem when to free reclaimable pages Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  4:53                                                               ` [PATCH 5/5] NFS: Run COMMIT as an asynchronous RPC call when wbc->for_background is set Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  4:53                                                               ` [PATCH 3/5] VM: Don't call bdi_stat(BDI_UNSTABLE) on non-nfs backing-devices Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  4:53                                                               ` [PATCH 2/5] VM: Split out the accounting of unstable writes from BDI_RECLAIMABLE Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 14:56                                                         ` [PATCH 1/6] VFS: Ensure that writeback_single_inode() commits unstable writes Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07 15:10                                                           ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-08  1:17                                                             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-08  1:37                                                               ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-08  1:53                                                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-08  9:25                                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-08 13:46                                                               ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-08 13:54                                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-08 14:15                                                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 20:51                                                   ` [PATCH 4/6] VM: Don't call bdi_stat(BDI_UNSTABLE) on non-nfs backing-devices Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  1:56                                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-06 21:44                                                   ` [PATCH 0/6] Re: [PATCH] improve the performance of large sequential write NFS workloads Jan Kara
2010-01-06 22:03                                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  8:16                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-22 12:25       ` Jan Kara
     [not found]         ` <20091222122557.GA604-jyMamyUUXNJG4ohzP4jBZS1Fcj925eT/@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-22 12:38           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-22 12:55             ` Jan Kara
2009-12-22 16:20         ` Steve Rago
2009-12-23 18:39           ` Jan Kara
     [not found]             ` <20091223183912.GE3159-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-23 20:16               ` Steve Rago
2009-12-23 21:49                 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-23 23:13                   ` Steve Rago
2009-12-23 23:44                     ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-24  4:30                       ` Steve Rago

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