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From: Aaron Straus <aaron-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
	LKML Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [NFS] blocks of zeros (NULLs) in NFS files in kernels >= 2.6.20
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:14:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080905221435.GA12911@merfinllc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <04854041-E23D-48B5-B9FF-0B7ECEB2C371@oracle.com>

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Hi,

On Sep 05 04:36 PM, Chuck Lever wrote:
> I have the latest Fedora 9 kernels on two clients, mounting via NFSv3  
> using "actimeo=600" (for other reasons).  The server is OpenSolaris  
> 2008.5.
> 
> reader.py reported zeroes in the test file after about 5 minutes.

Awesome.  Thanks for testing!  Our actime is much shorter which is
probably why it happens sooner for us.

> Looking at the file a little later, I don't see any problems with it.
> 
> Since your scripts are not using any kind of serialization (ie file  
> locking) between the clients, I wonder if non-determinant behavior is  
> to be expected.

Hmm... yep.  I don't know what guarantees we want to make.   The
behavior doesn't seem to be consistent with older kernels though... so
I'm thinking it might be a bug.

We hit this particular issue because we have scripts which essentially
'tail -f' log files looking for errors.   They miss log messages (and
see corrupted ones) b/c of the NULLs.  That's also why there is no
serialization.... we don't need it when grep'ing through log messages.

I'm bisecting now.  I see a block of intricate-looking NFS patches, I'll
try to narrow it down to a particular commit.  

I'll also get the wireshark data at that point.

					Thanks,
					=a=


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  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-05 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-05 19:19 [NFS] blocks of zeros (NULLs) in NFS files in kernels >= 2.6.20 Aaron Straus
     [not found] ` <20080905191939.GG22796-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-05 19:56   ` Chuck Lever
2008-09-05 20:04     ` Aaron Straus
     [not found]       ` <20080905200455.GH22796-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-05 20:36         ` Chuck Lever
2008-09-05 22:14           ` Aaron Straus [this message]
2008-09-06  0:03     ` Aaron Straus
2008-09-08 19:02     ` Aaron Straus
     [not found]       ` <20080908190212.GF28123-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-08 21:15         ` Chuck Lever
     [not found]           ` <76bd70e30809081415h6b55a8dfl8171634c576ac946-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-08 22:02             ` Aaron Straus
2008-09-09 19:46             ` Aaron Straus
     [not found]               ` <20080909194644.GI5290-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-11 16:55                 ` Chuck Lever
2008-09-11 17:19                   ` Aaron Straus
     [not found]                     ` <20080911171908.GE12037-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-11 17:48                       ` Chuck Lever
2008-09-11 18:49                         ` Aaron Straus
     [not found]                           ` <20080911184951.GB19054-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-22 16:05                             ` Hans-Peter Jansen
     [not found]                               ` <200809221805.48463.hpj-2x7n3sizJbFeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-22 16:35                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-09-22 17:04                                   ` Aaron Straus
     [not found]                                     ` <20080922170414.GC12483-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-22 17:26                                       ` Chuck Lever
     [not found]                                         ` <76bd70e30809221026g7bde774pbffa35881682ea4b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-22 17:37                                           ` Aaron Straus
2008-09-22 17:29                                       ` Trond Myklebust
2008-09-22 17:45                                         ` Aaron Straus
     [not found]                                           ` <20080922174525.GF12483-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-22 18:43                                             ` Aaron Straus
2008-09-22 18:45                                             ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2008-09-22 18:45                                   ` Hans-Peter Jansen

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