From: Aaron Straus <aaron-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Hans-Peter Jansen <hpj-2x7n3sizJbFeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [NFS] blocks of zeros (NULLs) in NFS files in kernels >= 2.6.20
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:45:26 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080922174525.GF12483@merfinllc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1222104541.7615.23.camel@localhost>
Hi,
On Sep 22 01:29 PM, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > Anyway, I agree the new writeout semantics are allowed and possibly
> > saner than the previous writeout path. The problem is that it is
> > __annoying__ for this use case (log files).
>
> There is always the option of using syslog.
Definitely. Everything in our control we can work around.... there are
a few applications we cannot easily change... see the follow-up in
another e-mail.
> > I'm not sure if there is an easy solution. We want the VM to writeout
> > the address space in order. Maybe we can start the scan for dirty
> > pages at the last page we wrote out i.e. page 0 in the example above?
>
> You can never guarantee that in a multi-threaded environment.
Definitely. This is a single writer, single reader case though.
> Two threads may, for instance, force 2 competing fsync() calls: that
> again may cause out-of-order writes.
Yup.
> ...and even if the client doesn't reorder the writes, the _server_ may
> do it, since multiple nfsd threads may race when processing writes to
> the same file.
Yup. We're definitely not asking for anything like that.
> Anyway, the patch to force a single threaded nfs client to write out the
> data in order is trivial. See attachment...
>
> diff --git a/fs/nfs/write.c b/fs/nfs/write.c
> index 3229e21..eb6b211 100644
> --- a/fs/nfs/write.c
> +++ b/fs/nfs/write.c
> @@ -1428,7 +1428,8 @@ static int nfs_write_mapping(struct address_space *mapping, int how)
> .sync_mode = WB_SYNC_NONE,
> .nr_to_write = LONG_MAX,
> .for_writepages = 1,
> - .range_cyclic = 1,
> + .range_start = 0,
> + .range_end = LLONG_MAX,
> };
> int ret;
>
Yeah I was looking at that while debugging. Would that change have
chance to make it into mainline? I assume it makes the normal writeout
path more expensive, by forcing a scan of the entire address space.
Also, I should test this, but I thought the VM was calling
nfs_writepages directly i.e. not going through nfs_write_mapping. Let
me test with this patch.
Thanks,
=a=
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Aaron Straus
aaron-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-05 19:19 [NFS] blocks of zeros (NULLs) in NFS files in kernels >= 2.6.20 Aaron Straus
[not found] ` <20080905191939.GG22796-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-05 19:56 ` Chuck Lever
2008-09-05 20:04 ` Aaron Straus
[not found] ` <20080905200455.GH22796-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-05 20:36 ` Chuck Lever
2008-09-05 22:14 ` Aaron Straus
2008-09-06 0:03 ` Aaron Straus
2008-09-08 19:02 ` Aaron Straus
[not found] ` <20080908190212.GF28123-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-08 21:15 ` Chuck Lever
[not found] ` <76bd70e30809081415h6b55a8dfl8171634c576ac946-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-08 22:02 ` Aaron Straus
2008-09-09 19:46 ` Aaron Straus
[not found] ` <20080909194644.GI5290-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-11 16:55 ` Chuck Lever
2008-09-11 17:19 ` Aaron Straus
[not found] ` <20080911171908.GE12037-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-11 17:48 ` Chuck Lever
2008-09-11 18:49 ` Aaron Straus
[not found] ` <20080911184951.GB19054-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-22 16:05 ` Hans-Peter Jansen
[not found] ` <200809221805.48463.hpj-2x7n3sizJbFeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-22 16:35 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-09-22 17:04 ` Aaron Straus
[not found] ` <20080922170414.GC12483-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-22 17:26 ` Chuck Lever
[not found] ` <76bd70e30809221026g7bde774pbffa35881682ea4b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-22 17:37 ` Aaron Straus
2008-09-22 17:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-09-22 17:45 ` Aaron Straus [this message]
[not found] ` <20080922174525.GF12483-bYFJunmd+ZV8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-22 18:43 ` Aaron Straus
2008-09-22 18:45 ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2008-09-22 18:45 ` Hans-Peter Jansen
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