From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com>,
Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
Phil Endecott
<phil_bnaqb_endecott-wZDNlLIRyE5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Make sm-notify faster if there are no servers to notify
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 22:58:03 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081205035803.GC15115@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18744.41310.635618.148281-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 02:34:54PM +1100, Neil Brown wrote:
> On Thursday December 4, bfields@fieldses.org wrote:
> >
> > Any progress on this? I don't think we can release in the current
> > state, since as far as I can tell that means on a new system, unless the
> > install scripts create /var/lib/nfs/state, neither sm-notify nor statd
> > ever writes to /proc/sys/fs/nfs/nsm_local_state, and (without testing)
> > it looks to me like that means lockd defaults to a state of 0, which is
> > nonsense?
>
> Why is '0' nonsense?
Even numbers are supposed to mean that a host is down, odd that it's up.
In practice noone ever uses that fact--they only ever advertise odd
numbers. So we might get away with using an even number. But then
again a peer would be in its rights to check the parity and complain,
and some may well do that.
> The only real requirement on 'state' is that it changes when the host
> reboots while some peer is monitoring it. Even if it got reset to
> zero every time the sm and sm.bak became empty it would still work
> just fine.
Hm, I don't know; it might be that an inconveniently timed network
partition combined with nsm states that repeat themselves could prevent
a client from knowing about some reboot that it should have known about.
It's safer to keep a counter and ensure that the state never repeats
(well, anyway, not until it overflows after a few billion reboots).
> If we reboot and find that both sm and sm.bak are empty
> there is really no point in changing 'state'.
I think I've convinced myself of that, yes. For the purposes of
locking, a reboot which didn't require notifying any client may as well
have not been a reboot, since no state was lost.
But we should at least make sure that the state is properly initialized
and nondecreasing.
> I think it would still be valuable to replace the 'sync' with two
> 'fsync's, one of the file, one on the directory.
Sure, may as well.--b.
> This may not be a win on ext3 today (I'm not 100% certain about that)
> but there are other filesystems and more seem to be coming.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-05 3:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-29 0:13 Make sm-notify faster if there are no servers to notify Phil Endecott
[not found] ` <1225239200402-YnoLgZYwwYuCbKHnblo0pmrPP3OPMK55cpQHUIT47Ck@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-29 17:18 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-10-29 17:30 ` Phil Endecott
[not found] ` <1225301403729-YnoLgZYwwYuCbKHnblo0pmrPP3OPMK55cpQHUIT47Ck@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-29 17:37 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-10-29 17:45 ` Phil Endecott
[not found] ` <1225302305994-YnoLgZYwwYuCbKHnblo0pmrPP3OPMK55cpQHUIT47Ck@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-29 18:41 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-10-29 20:30 ` Chuck Lever
2008-10-29 21:11 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-11-09 19:25 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-11-10 0:52 ` Chuck Lever
2008-11-10 0:55 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-11-10 1:00 ` Chuck Lever
2008-11-10 9:40 ` Phil Endecott
2008-11-10 13:41 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <49183A12.7010707-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-04 21:10 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-12-05 3:34 ` Neil Brown
[not found] ` <18744.41310.635618.148281-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-05 3:58 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2008-12-05 13:26 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <49392C14.7000709-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-05 16:38 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-12-05 17:29 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-12-05 18:41 ` Chuck Lever
2008-12-06 2:42 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-12-08 19:50 ` Chuck Lever
2008-12-11 22:44 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-12-05 19:12 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <49397D1B.3000701-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-06 2:49 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-12-05 18:42 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <4939760A.9050304-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-06 3:08 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-10-31 17:52 ` Steve Dickson
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