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From: Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: "Jeff Layton" <jeff.layton@primarydata.com>,
	ikent@redhat.com, bcodding@redhat.com,
	"David Härdeman" <david@hardeman.nu>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, SteveD@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/19] gssd improvements
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 14:03:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141210140311.7fb7b159@tlielax.poochiereds.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32108.1418227382@warthog.procyon.org.uk>

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 16:03:02 +0000
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> wrote:

> Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com> wrote:
> 
> > > This thread might be interesting:
> > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/11/24/885
> > > 
> > 
> > Nice. I wasn't aware that Ian was working on this. I'll take a look.
> 
> I'm not sure what the current state of this is.  There was some discussion
> over how best to determine which container we need to run in - and it's
> complicated by the fact that the mounter may run in a different container to
> the program that triggered the mount due to mountpoint propagation.
> 

Yes. It's quite a thorny problem.

Part of the issue is that the different namespaces (net, mount, etc...)
are completely orthogonal to one another as far as the kernel is
concerned, but they really can't be when we start talking about
userland stuff.

For example, all of the nfs and nfsd namespace code was tied to the net
namespace. But, once you start involving things like gssd, the mount
namespace matters too as it has to deal with files (libraries and
config files, in particular).

Q: What happens if you have two "containers" that have the same net
namespace but different mount namespaces along with a different krb5
configuration in each? Maybe even with a gssd running in each?

A: A horrible mess, AFAICT...

Without something that really enforces a 1:1 relationship between all
of the different sorts of namespaces, the whole container/namespace
concept quickly descends into a horrid mess. It makes my head hurt.

-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@primarydata.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-10 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-09  5:40 [PATCH 00/19] gssd improvements David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:40 ` [PATCH 01/19] nfs-utils: cleanup daemonization code David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:40 ` [PATCH 02/19] nfs-utils: gssd - merge gssd_main_loop.c and gssd.c David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:40 ` [PATCH 03/19] nfs-utils: gssd - simplify some option handling David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:41 ` [PATCH 04/19] nfs-utils: gssd - remove arbitrary GSSD_MAX_CCACHE_SEARCH limitation David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:41 ` [PATCH 05/19] nfs-utils: gssd - simplify topdirs path David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:41 ` [PATCH 06/19] nfs-utils: gssd - move over pipfs scanning code David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:41 ` [PATCH 07/19] nfs-utils: gssd - simplify client dir " David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:41 ` [PATCH 08/19] nfs-utils: gssd - use libevent David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:41 ` [PATCH 09/19] nfs-utils: gssd - remove "close me" code David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:41 ` [PATCH 10/19] nfs-utils: gssd - make the client lists per-topdir David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:41 ` [PATCH 11/19] nfs-utils: gssd - keep the rpc_pipefs dir open David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:41 ` [PATCH 12/19] nfs-utils: gssd - use more relative paths David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:41 ` [PATCH 13/19] nfs-utils: gssd - simplify topdir scanning David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:41 ` [PATCH 14/19] nfs-utils: gssd - simplify client scanning David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:41 ` [PATCH 15/19] nfs-utils: gssd - cleanup read_service_info David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:42 ` [PATCH 16/19] nfs-utils: gssd - change dnotify to inotify David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:42 ` [PATCH 17/19] nfs-utils: gssd - further shorten some pathnames David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:42 ` [PATCH 18/19] nfs-utils: gssd - improve inotify David Härdeman
2014-12-09  5:42 ` [PATCH 19/19] nfs-utils: gssd - simplify handle_gssd_upcall David Härdeman
2014-12-09 13:09 ` [PATCH 00/19] gssd improvements Jeff Layton
2014-12-09 13:52   ` David Härdeman
2014-12-09 14:58     ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-09 15:07       ` Simo Sorce
2014-12-09 19:55       ` David Härdeman
2014-12-10 11:52         ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-10 14:08           ` David Härdeman
2014-12-10 14:17             ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-10 14:31               ` David Härdeman
2014-12-10 14:34                 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-10 16:03                   ` David Howells
2014-12-10 19:03                     ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2014-12-10 20:55                       ` David Härdeman
2014-12-10 23:44                       ` Ian Kent
2014-12-10 23:21                     ` Benjamin Coddington
2014-12-11  0:12                       ` Ian Kent
2014-12-11  1:54                         ` Benjamin Coddington
2014-12-11  3:21                           ` Ian Kent
2014-12-11 11:45                             ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-11 12:55                               ` Ian Kent
2014-12-11 13:46                                 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-11 22:31                                   ` Ian Kent
2014-12-11 19:32                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-12-11 19:50                                 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-11 19:55                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-12-11 20:11                                     ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-11 20:38                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-12-11 22:20                                         ` Ian Kent
2014-12-09 16:39 ` Steve Dickson
2014-12-09 20:22   ` David Härdeman
2014-12-09 21:13     ` Steve Dickson
2014-12-10 14:20       ` David Härdeman
2014-12-10 20:35 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-12-10 20:49   ` David Härdeman
2014-12-10 21:07     ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-01-28 21:29 ` Steve Dickson

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