From: Benjamin Coddington <bcodding@redhat.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: "Jeff Layton" <jeff.layton@primarydata.com>,
ikent@redhat.com, "David Härdeman" <david@hardeman.nu>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, SteveD@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/19] gssd improvements
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 18:21:14 -0500 (EST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.OSX.2.19.9992.1412101744200.92934@planck.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32108.1418227382@warthog.procyon.org.uk>
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, David Howells wrote:
> Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com> wrote:
>
> > > This thread might be interesting:
> > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/11/24/885
> > >
> >
> > Nice. I wasn't aware that Ian was working on this. I'll take a look.
>
> I'm not sure what the current state of this is. There was some discussion
> over how best to determine which container we need to run in - and it's
> complicated by the fact that the mounter may run in a different container to
> the program that triggered the mount due to mountpoint propagation.
>
> David
The specific problem of how to run /sbin/request-key in the caller's
"container" for idmap and gssd (and other friends) became more generally a
problem of how to solve the namespace (or more generally again, "context")
problem for some users of kmod's call_usermodehelper. The nice thing about
call_usermodehelper is that you don't have to do a lot of work to set up a
process to get something done in userspace -- however it is sounding more
like we do need to work hard to set up context for some users.
The userspace work needs to be done within a context that currently exists
or once existed, so the questions are where do we get that context and how
do we keep it around until we need it?
I think there's agreement that the setup of that context should be basically
what's done in fork() for consistency and future work. So we get LSM and
cgroups, etc.. in addition to namespaces.
There are two suggested approaches:
1) Anytime we think we're going to later need to upcall with a context we
fork and keep a thread around to do that work. For NFS, that would look
like forking a thread for every mount at mount time. The user of this API
would be responsible for creating/maintaining the thread and passing it
along for work.
2) Specify that a usermodehelper should attempt to use a context rather than
the default root context. The context used would be taken from the "init"
process of the current pid_namespace. Either that init_process itself could
be asked to fork/execve or when the pid_namespace is created a separate
helper thread is reserved.
I lean toward the second approach because I think it most closely matches
the context transistions that we have today, and can be more generally
applied. I'm pecking away at getting a rough implementation, which I plan
on asking Ian to review initially.
Ben
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-12-10 23:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-12-09 5:40 [PATCH 00/19] gssd improvements David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:40 ` [PATCH 01/19] nfs-utils: cleanup daemonization code David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:40 ` [PATCH 02/19] nfs-utils: gssd - merge gssd_main_loop.c and gssd.c David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:40 ` [PATCH 03/19] nfs-utils: gssd - simplify some option handling David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:41 ` [PATCH 04/19] nfs-utils: gssd - remove arbitrary GSSD_MAX_CCACHE_SEARCH limitation David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:41 ` [PATCH 05/19] nfs-utils: gssd - simplify topdirs path David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:41 ` [PATCH 06/19] nfs-utils: gssd - move over pipfs scanning code David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:41 ` [PATCH 07/19] nfs-utils: gssd - simplify client dir " David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:41 ` [PATCH 08/19] nfs-utils: gssd - use libevent David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:41 ` [PATCH 09/19] nfs-utils: gssd - remove "close me" code David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:41 ` [PATCH 10/19] nfs-utils: gssd - make the client lists per-topdir David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:41 ` [PATCH 11/19] nfs-utils: gssd - keep the rpc_pipefs dir open David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:41 ` [PATCH 12/19] nfs-utils: gssd - use more relative paths David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:41 ` [PATCH 13/19] nfs-utils: gssd - simplify topdir scanning David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:41 ` [PATCH 14/19] nfs-utils: gssd - simplify client scanning David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:41 ` [PATCH 15/19] nfs-utils: gssd - cleanup read_service_info David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:42 ` [PATCH 16/19] nfs-utils: gssd - change dnotify to inotify David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:42 ` [PATCH 17/19] nfs-utils: gssd - further shorten some pathnames David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:42 ` [PATCH 18/19] nfs-utils: gssd - improve inotify David Härdeman
2014-12-09 5:42 ` [PATCH 19/19] nfs-utils: gssd - simplify handle_gssd_upcall David Härdeman
2014-12-09 13:09 ` [PATCH 00/19] gssd improvements Jeff Layton
2014-12-09 13:52 ` David Härdeman
2014-12-09 14:58 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-09 15:07 ` Simo Sorce
2014-12-09 19:55 ` David Härdeman
2014-12-10 11:52 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-10 14:08 ` David Härdeman
2014-12-10 14:17 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-10 14:31 ` David Härdeman
2014-12-10 14:34 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-10 16:03 ` David Howells
2014-12-10 19:03 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-10 20:55 ` David Härdeman
2014-12-10 23:44 ` Ian Kent
2014-12-10 23:21 ` Benjamin Coddington [this message]
2014-12-11 0:12 ` Ian Kent
2014-12-11 1:54 ` Benjamin Coddington
2014-12-11 3:21 ` Ian Kent
2014-12-11 11:45 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-11 12:55 ` Ian Kent
2014-12-11 13:46 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-11 22:31 ` Ian Kent
2014-12-11 19:32 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-12-11 19:50 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-11 19:55 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-12-11 20:11 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-11 20:38 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-12-11 22:20 ` Ian Kent
2014-12-09 16:39 ` Steve Dickson
2014-12-09 20:22 ` David Härdeman
2014-12-09 21:13 ` Steve Dickson
2014-12-10 14:20 ` David Härdeman
2014-12-10 20:35 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-12-10 20:49 ` David Härdeman
2014-12-10 21:07 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-01-28 21:29 ` Steve Dickson
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