* [PATCH] nfs: add 'noalignwrite' option for lock-less 'lost writes' prevention
@ 2024-06-27 10:01 Dan Aloni
2024-06-27 11:06 ` Jeff Layton
2024-07-03 19:09 ` Sagi Grimberg
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Dan Aloni @ 2024-06-27 10:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-nfs
There are some applications that write to predefined non-overlapping
file offsets from multiple clients and therefore don't need to rely on
file locking. However, if these applications want non-aligned offsets
and sizes they need to either use locks or risk data corruption, as the
NFS client defaults to extending writes to whole pages.
This commit adds a new mount option `noalignwrite`, which allows to turn
that off and avoid the need of locking, as long as these applications
don't overlap on offsets.
Signed-off-by: Dan Aloni <dan.aloni@vastdata.com>
---
fs/nfs/fs_context.c | 8 ++++++++
fs/nfs/super.c | 3 +++
fs/nfs/write.c | 3 +++
include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h | 1 +
4 files changed, 15 insertions(+)
diff --git a/fs/nfs/fs_context.c b/fs/nfs/fs_context.c
index 6c9f3f6645dd..7e000d782e28 100644
--- a/fs/nfs/fs_context.c
+++ b/fs/nfs/fs_context.c
@@ -49,6 +49,7 @@ enum nfs_param {
Opt_bsize,
Opt_clientaddr,
Opt_cto,
+ Opt_alignwrite,
Opt_fg,
Opt_fscache,
Opt_fscache_flag,
@@ -149,6 +150,7 @@ static const struct fs_parameter_spec nfs_fs_parameters[] = {
fsparam_u32 ("bsize", Opt_bsize),
fsparam_string("clientaddr", Opt_clientaddr),
fsparam_flag_no("cto", Opt_cto),
+ fsparam_flag_no("alignwrite", Opt_alignwrite),
fsparam_flag ("fg", Opt_fg),
fsparam_flag_no("fsc", Opt_fscache_flag),
fsparam_string("fsc", Opt_fscache),
@@ -592,6 +594,12 @@ static int nfs_fs_context_parse_param(struct fs_context *fc,
else
ctx->flags |= NFS_MOUNT_TRUNK_DISCOVERY;
break;
+ case Opt_alignwrite:
+ if (result.negated)
+ ctx->flags |= NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE;
+ else
+ ctx->flags &= ~NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE;
+ break;
case Opt_ac:
if (result.negated)
ctx->flags |= NFS_MOUNT_NOAC;
diff --git a/fs/nfs/super.c b/fs/nfs/super.c
index cbbd4866b0b7..1382ae19bba4 100644
--- a/fs/nfs/super.c
+++ b/fs/nfs/super.c
@@ -549,6 +549,9 @@ static void nfs_show_mount_options(struct seq_file *m, struct nfs_server *nfss,
else
seq_puts(m, ",local_lock=posix");
+ if (nfss->flags & NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE)
+ seq_puts(m, ",noalignwrite");
+
if (nfss->flags & NFS_MOUNT_WRITE_EAGER) {
if (nfss->flags & NFS_MOUNT_WRITE_WAIT)
seq_puts(m, ",write=wait");
diff --git a/fs/nfs/write.c b/fs/nfs/write.c
index 2329cbb0e446..cfe8061bf005 100644
--- a/fs/nfs/write.c
+++ b/fs/nfs/write.c
@@ -1315,7 +1315,10 @@ static int nfs_can_extend_write(struct file *file, struct folio *folio,
struct file_lock_context *flctx = locks_inode_context(inode);
struct file_lock *fl;
int ret;
+ unsigned int mntflags = NFS_SERVER(inode)->flags;
+ if (mntflags & NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE)
+ return 0;
if (file->f_flags & O_DSYNC)
return 0;
if (!nfs_folio_write_uptodate(folio, pagelen))
diff --git a/include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h b/include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h
index 92de074e63b9..4d28b4a328a7 100644
--- a/include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h
+++ b/include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h
@@ -157,6 +157,7 @@ struct nfs_server {
#define NFS_MOUNT_WRITE_WAIT 0x02000000
#define NFS_MOUNT_TRUNK_DISCOVERY 0x04000000
#define NFS_MOUNT_SHUTDOWN 0x08000000
+#define NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE 0x10000000
unsigned int fattr_valid; /* Valid attributes */
unsigned int caps; /* server capabilities */
--
2.39.3
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2024-06-27 10:01 [PATCH] nfs: add 'noalignwrite' option for lock-less 'lost writes' prevention Dan Aloni
@ 2024-06-27 11:06 ` Jeff Layton
2024-07-03 19:09 ` Sagi Grimberg
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jeff Layton @ 2024-06-27 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dan Aloni, linux-nfs
On Thu, 2024-06-27 at 13:01 +0300, Dan Aloni wrote:
> There are some applications that write to predefined non-overlapping
> file offsets from multiple clients and therefore don't need to rely
> on
> file locking. However, if these applications want non-aligned offsets
> and sizes they need to either use locks or risk data corruption, as
> the
> NFS client defaults to extending writes to whole pages.
>
> This commit adds a new mount option `noalignwrite`, which allows to
> turn
> that off and avoid the need of locking, as long as these applications
> don't overlap on offsets.
>
> Signed-off-by: Dan Aloni <dan.aloni@vastdata.com>
> ---
> fs/nfs/fs_context.c | 8 ++++++++
> fs/nfs/super.c | 3 +++
> fs/nfs/write.c | 3 +++
> include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h | 1 +
> 4 files changed, 15 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/fs/nfs/fs_context.c b/fs/nfs/fs_context.c
> index 6c9f3f6645dd..7e000d782e28 100644
> --- a/fs/nfs/fs_context.c
> +++ b/fs/nfs/fs_context.c
> @@ -49,6 +49,7 @@ enum nfs_param {
> Opt_bsize,
> Opt_clientaddr,
> Opt_cto,
> + Opt_alignwrite,
> Opt_fg,
> Opt_fscache,
> Opt_fscache_flag,
> @@ -149,6 +150,7 @@ static const struct fs_parameter_spec
> nfs_fs_parameters[] = {
> fsparam_u32 ("bsize", Opt_bsize),
> fsparam_string("clientaddr", Opt_clientaddr),
> fsparam_flag_no("cto", Opt_cto),
> + fsparam_flag_no("alignwrite", Opt_alignwrite),
> fsparam_flag ("fg", Opt_fg),
> fsparam_flag_no("fsc", Opt_fscache_flag),
> fsparam_string("fsc", Opt_fscache),
> @@ -592,6 +594,12 @@ static int nfs_fs_context_parse_param(struct
> fs_context *fc,
> else
> ctx->flags |= NFS_MOUNT_TRUNK_DISCOVERY;
> break;
> + case Opt_alignwrite:
> + if (result.negated)
> + ctx->flags |= NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE;
> + else
> + ctx->flags &= ~NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE;
> + break;
> case Opt_ac:
> if (result.negated)
> ctx->flags |= NFS_MOUNT_NOAC;
> diff --git a/fs/nfs/super.c b/fs/nfs/super.c
> index cbbd4866b0b7..1382ae19bba4 100644
> --- a/fs/nfs/super.c
> +++ b/fs/nfs/super.c
> @@ -549,6 +549,9 @@ static void nfs_show_mount_options(struct
> seq_file *m, struct nfs_server *nfss,
> else
> seq_puts(m, ",local_lock=posix");
>
> + if (nfss->flags & NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE)
> + seq_puts(m, ",noalignwrite");
> +
> if (nfss->flags & NFS_MOUNT_WRITE_EAGER) {
> if (nfss->flags & NFS_MOUNT_WRITE_WAIT)
> seq_puts(m, ",write=wait");
> diff --git a/fs/nfs/write.c b/fs/nfs/write.c
> index 2329cbb0e446..cfe8061bf005 100644
> --- a/fs/nfs/write.c
> +++ b/fs/nfs/write.c
> @@ -1315,7 +1315,10 @@ static int nfs_can_extend_write(struct file
> *file, struct folio *folio,
> struct file_lock_context *flctx =
> locks_inode_context(inode);
> struct file_lock *fl;
> int ret;
> + unsigned int mntflags = NFS_SERVER(inode)->flags;
>
> + if (mntflags & NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE)
> + return 0;
> if (file->f_flags & O_DSYNC)
> return 0;
> if (!nfs_folio_write_uptodate(folio, pagelen))
> diff --git a/include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h b/include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h
> index 92de074e63b9..4d28b4a328a7 100644
> --- a/include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h
> +++ b/include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h
> @@ -157,6 +157,7 @@ struct nfs_server {
> #define NFS_MOUNT_WRITE_WAIT 0x02000000
> #define NFS_MOUNT_TRUNK_DISCOVERY 0x04000000
> #define NFS_MOUNT_SHUTDOWN 0x08000000
> +#define NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE 0x10000000
>
> unsigned int fattr_valid; /* Valid attributes
> */
> unsigned int caps; /* server
> capabilities */
While I hate that we need a new mount option for this, I do understand
the need. I do wonder if we'd be better served by a new fadvise64()
flag or something. Either way, this would probably be needed in the
interim, so...
Reviewed-by: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
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2024-06-27 10:01 [PATCH] nfs: add 'noalignwrite' option for lock-less 'lost writes' prevention Dan Aloni
2024-06-27 11:06 ` Jeff Layton
@ 2024-07-03 19:09 ` Sagi Grimberg
2024-07-11 8:06 ` Dan Aloni
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Sagi Grimberg @ 2024-07-03 19:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dan Aloni, linux-nfs
On 27/06/2024 13:01, Dan Aloni wrote:
> There are some applications that write to predefined non-overlapping
> file offsets from multiple clients and therefore don't need to rely on
> file locking. However, if these applications want non-aligned offsets
> and sizes they need to either use locks or risk data corruption, as the
> NFS client defaults to extending writes to whole pages.
>
> This commit adds a new mount option `noalignwrite`, which allows to turn
> that off and avoid the need of locking, as long as these applications
> don't overlap on offsets.
>
> Signed-off-by: Dan Aloni <dan.aloni@vastdata.com>
The new name seems a better choice.
I'm also on Christoph's camp that having this behavior be the default makes
sense given that we have large folios.
Reviewed-by: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>
Trond, Anna,
What are your thoughts on this?
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* Re: [PATCH] nfs: add 'noalignwrite' option for lock-less 'lost writes' prevention
2024-07-03 19:09 ` Sagi Grimberg
@ 2024-07-11 8:06 ` Dan Aloni
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Dan Aloni @ 2024-07-11 8:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Trond Myklebust, Anna Schumaker; +Cc: linux-nfs, Sagi Grimberg
On 2024-07-03 22:09:58, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
>
>
> On 27/06/2024 13:01, Dan Aloni wrote:
> > There are some applications that write to predefined non-overlapping
> > file offsets from multiple clients and therefore don't need to rely on
> > file locking. However, if these applications want non-aligned offsets
> > and sizes they need to either use locks or risk data corruption, as the
> > NFS client defaults to extending writes to whole pages.
> >
> > This commit adds a new mount option `noalignwrite`, which allows to turn
> > that off and avoid the need of locking, as long as these applications
> > don't overlap on offsets.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Dan Aloni <dan.aloni@vastdata.com>
>
> The new name seems a better choice.
> I'm also on Christoph's camp that having this behavior be the default makes
> sense given that we have large folios.
>
> Reviewed-by: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>
>
>
> Trond, Anna,
> What are your thoughts on this?
Pinging. Do we need to do anything further? I can prepare the nfs-utils
patch too.
--
Dan Aloni
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* [PATCH] nfs: add 'noalignwrite' option for lock-less 'lost writes' prevention
@ 2024-07-24 11:07 Dan Aloni
2024-07-29 15:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-19 11:18 ` Sagi Grimberg
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Dan Aloni @ 2024-07-24 11:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: anna; +Cc: linux-nfs, Jeff Layton, Sagi Grimberg
There are some applications that write to predefined non-overlapping
file offsets from multiple clients and therefore don't need to rely on
file locking. However, if these applications want non-aligned offsets
and sizes they need to either use locks or risk data corruption, as the
NFS client defaults to extending writes to whole pages.
This commit adds a new mount option `noalignwrite`, which allows to turn
that off and avoid the need of locking, as long as these applications
don't overlap on offsets.
Signed-off-by: Dan Aloni <dan.aloni@vastdata.com>
Reviewed-by: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Reviewed-by: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>
---
fs/nfs/fs_context.c | 8 ++++++++
fs/nfs/super.c | 3 +++
fs/nfs/write.c | 3 +++
include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h | 1 +
4 files changed, 15 insertions(+)
diff --git a/fs/nfs/fs_context.c b/fs/nfs/fs_context.c
index 6c9f3f6645dd..7e000d782e28 100644
--- a/fs/nfs/fs_context.c
+++ b/fs/nfs/fs_context.c
@@ -49,6 +49,7 @@ enum nfs_param {
Opt_bsize,
Opt_clientaddr,
Opt_cto,
+ Opt_alignwrite,
Opt_fg,
Opt_fscache,
Opt_fscache_flag,
@@ -149,6 +150,7 @@ static const struct fs_parameter_spec nfs_fs_parameters[] = {
fsparam_u32 ("bsize", Opt_bsize),
fsparam_string("clientaddr", Opt_clientaddr),
fsparam_flag_no("cto", Opt_cto),
+ fsparam_flag_no("alignwrite", Opt_alignwrite),
fsparam_flag ("fg", Opt_fg),
fsparam_flag_no("fsc", Opt_fscache_flag),
fsparam_string("fsc", Opt_fscache),
@@ -592,6 +594,12 @@ static int nfs_fs_context_parse_param(struct fs_context *fc,
else
ctx->flags |= NFS_MOUNT_TRUNK_DISCOVERY;
break;
+ case Opt_alignwrite:
+ if (result.negated)
+ ctx->flags |= NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE;
+ else
+ ctx->flags &= ~NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE;
+ break;
case Opt_ac:
if (result.negated)
ctx->flags |= NFS_MOUNT_NOAC;
diff --git a/fs/nfs/super.c b/fs/nfs/super.c
index cbbd4866b0b7..1382ae19bba4 100644
--- a/fs/nfs/super.c
+++ b/fs/nfs/super.c
@@ -549,6 +549,9 @@ static void nfs_show_mount_options(struct seq_file *m, struct nfs_server *nfss,
else
seq_puts(m, ",local_lock=posix");
+ if (nfss->flags & NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE)
+ seq_puts(m, ",noalignwrite");
+
if (nfss->flags & NFS_MOUNT_WRITE_EAGER) {
if (nfss->flags & NFS_MOUNT_WRITE_WAIT)
seq_puts(m, ",write=wait");
diff --git a/fs/nfs/write.c b/fs/nfs/write.c
index 2329cbb0e446..cfe8061bf005 100644
--- a/fs/nfs/write.c
+++ b/fs/nfs/write.c
@@ -1315,7 +1315,10 @@ static int nfs_can_extend_write(struct file *file, struct folio *folio,
struct file_lock_context *flctx = locks_inode_context(inode);
struct file_lock *fl;
int ret;
+ unsigned int mntflags = NFS_SERVER(inode)->flags;
+ if (mntflags & NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE)
+ return 0;
if (file->f_flags & O_DSYNC)
return 0;
if (!nfs_folio_write_uptodate(folio, pagelen))
diff --git a/include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h b/include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h
index 92de074e63b9..4d28b4a328a7 100644
--- a/include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h
+++ b/include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h
@@ -157,6 +157,7 @@ struct nfs_server {
#define NFS_MOUNT_WRITE_WAIT 0x02000000
#define NFS_MOUNT_TRUNK_DISCOVERY 0x04000000
#define NFS_MOUNT_SHUTDOWN 0x08000000
+#define NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE 0x10000000
unsigned int fattr_valid; /* Valid attributes */
unsigned int caps; /* server capabilities */
--
2.43.5
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2024-07-24 11:07 Dan Aloni
@ 2024-07-29 15:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-19 11:18 ` Sagi Grimberg
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Christoph Hellwig @ 2024-07-29 15:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dan Aloni; +Cc: anna, linux-nfs, Jeff Layton, Sagi Grimberg
As mentioned last time my preference would still be if NFS did not
do this weird extension by default. But given that Trond like it
I suspect I'm unlikely to get that, so at least having an option
is a good thing:
Reviewed-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
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* Re: [PATCH] nfs: add 'noalignwrite' option for lock-less 'lost writes' prevention
2024-07-24 11:07 Dan Aloni
2024-07-29 15:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
@ 2024-08-19 11:18 ` Sagi Grimberg
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Sagi Grimberg @ 2024-08-19 11:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: anna, Trond Myklebust; +Cc: linux-nfs, Jeff Layton, Dan Aloni
On 24/07/2024 14:07, Dan Aloni wrote:
> There are some applications that write to predefined non-overlapping
> file offsets from multiple clients and therefore don't need to rely on
> file locking. However, if these applications want non-aligned offsets
> and sizes they need to either use locks or risk data corruption, as the
> NFS client defaults to extending writes to whole pages.
>
> This commit adds a new mount option `noalignwrite`, which allows to turn
> that off and avoid the need of locking, as long as these applications
> don't overlap on offsets.
>
> Signed-off-by: Dan Aloni <dan.aloni@vastdata.com>
> Reviewed-by: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
> Reviewed-by: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>
> ---
> fs/nfs/fs_context.c | 8 ++++++++
> fs/nfs/super.c | 3 +++
> fs/nfs/write.c | 3 +++
> include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h | 1 +
> 4 files changed, 15 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/fs/nfs/fs_context.c b/fs/nfs/fs_context.c
> index 6c9f3f6645dd..7e000d782e28 100644
> --- a/fs/nfs/fs_context.c
> +++ b/fs/nfs/fs_context.c
> @@ -49,6 +49,7 @@ enum nfs_param {
> Opt_bsize,
> Opt_clientaddr,
> Opt_cto,
> + Opt_alignwrite,
> Opt_fg,
> Opt_fscache,
> Opt_fscache_flag,
> @@ -149,6 +150,7 @@ static const struct fs_parameter_spec nfs_fs_parameters[] = {
> fsparam_u32 ("bsize", Opt_bsize),
> fsparam_string("clientaddr", Opt_clientaddr),
> fsparam_flag_no("cto", Opt_cto),
> + fsparam_flag_no("alignwrite", Opt_alignwrite),
> fsparam_flag ("fg", Opt_fg),
> fsparam_flag_no("fsc", Opt_fscache_flag),
> fsparam_string("fsc", Opt_fscache),
> @@ -592,6 +594,12 @@ static int nfs_fs_context_parse_param(struct fs_context *fc,
> else
> ctx->flags |= NFS_MOUNT_TRUNK_DISCOVERY;
> break;
> + case Opt_alignwrite:
> + if (result.negated)
> + ctx->flags |= NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE;
> + else
> + ctx->flags &= ~NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE;
> + break;
> case Opt_ac:
> if (result.negated)
> ctx->flags |= NFS_MOUNT_NOAC;
> diff --git a/fs/nfs/super.c b/fs/nfs/super.c
> index cbbd4866b0b7..1382ae19bba4 100644
> --- a/fs/nfs/super.c
> +++ b/fs/nfs/super.c
> @@ -549,6 +549,9 @@ static void nfs_show_mount_options(struct seq_file *m, struct nfs_server *nfss,
> else
> seq_puts(m, ",local_lock=posix");
>
> + if (nfss->flags & NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE)
> + seq_puts(m, ",noalignwrite");
> +
> if (nfss->flags & NFS_MOUNT_WRITE_EAGER) {
> if (nfss->flags & NFS_MOUNT_WRITE_WAIT)
> seq_puts(m, ",write=wait");
> diff --git a/fs/nfs/write.c b/fs/nfs/write.c
> index 2329cbb0e446..cfe8061bf005 100644
> --- a/fs/nfs/write.c
> +++ b/fs/nfs/write.c
> @@ -1315,7 +1315,10 @@ static int nfs_can_extend_write(struct file *file, struct folio *folio,
> struct file_lock_context *flctx = locks_inode_context(inode);
> struct file_lock *fl;
> int ret;
> + unsigned int mntflags = NFS_SERVER(inode)->flags;
>
> + if (mntflags & NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE)
> + return 0;
> if (file->f_flags & O_DSYNC)
> return 0;
> if (!nfs_folio_write_uptodate(folio, pagelen))
> diff --git a/include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h b/include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h
> index 92de074e63b9..4d28b4a328a7 100644
> --- a/include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h
> +++ b/include/linux/nfs_fs_sb.h
> @@ -157,6 +157,7 @@ struct nfs_server {
> #define NFS_MOUNT_WRITE_WAIT 0x02000000
> #define NFS_MOUNT_TRUNK_DISCOVERY 0x04000000
> #define NFS_MOUNT_SHUTDOWN 0x08000000
> +#define NFS_MOUNT_NO_ALIGNWRITE 0x10000000
>
> unsigned int fattr_valid; /* Valid attributes */
> unsigned int caps; /* server capabilities */
Hey Anna, making sure this doesn't fall under your radar...
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