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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Edward Srouji <edwards@nvidia.com>
Cc: Chuck Lever <cel@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Olga Kornievskaia <okorniev@redhat.com>,
	Dai Ngo <dai.ngo@oracle.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/14] svcrdma: Reduce the number of rdma_rw contexts per-QP
Date: Thu, 8 May 2025 09:43:28 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250508124328.GA6500@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1a1bcbd5-4b78-47ae-bede-36265586c7ff@nvidia.com>

On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 11:41:18AM +0300, Edward Srouji wrote:
> 
> On 5/6/2025 5:22 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Tue, May 06, 2025 at 10:19:06AM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> > > > > In this patch I'm trying to include the reg/inv multiplier in the
> > > > > calculation, but that doesn't seem to be enough to make "accept"
> > > > > reliable, IMO due to this extra calculation in calc_sq_size().
> > > > Did ib_create_qp get called with more than max_qp_wr ?
> > > The request was for, like, 9300 SQEs. max_qp_wr is 32K on my systems.
> > Sounds like it is broken then..
> > 
> > 	props->max_qp_wr	   = 1 << MLX5_CAP_GEN(mdev, log_max_qp_sz);
> > 
> > So it is ignoring the wqe_size adustment.. It should adjust by the worst
> > case result of calc_send_wqe() for the device..
> How do you suggest adjusting to the worst case?
> How inline messages could be addressed and taken into account?

I think assume 0 size inline for computing max sizes

> Even if we ignore the inline size, worst case potentially could be less than
> 1/8th of the max HCA CAP, not sure we want to deliver this as a limitation
> to users.

The math is simply wrong - log_max_qp_sz is not the number of work
queue entries in the queue, it is the number of MLX5_SEND_WQE_BB's
units which is some internal value.

For a verbs API the result should be the max number of work queue
entries that can be requested for any of XRC/RC/UC/UD QP types using a
0 inline size, 1 SGL and no other special features.

Even for a simple RC QP sq_overhead() will return 132 which already
makes props->max_qp_wr uselessly wrong. 132 goes into here:

		return ALIGN(max_t(int, inl_size, size), MLX5_SEND_WQE_BB);

Comes out as 192 - so props->max_qp_wr is off by 3x even for a simple
no-feature RC QP.

Chuck is getting:

calc_sq_size:618:(pid 1514): send queue size (9326 * 256 / 64 -> 65536) exceeds limits(32768)

So I suppose that extra 64 bytes is coming from cap.max_send_sge >= 3?

Without a new API we can't make it fully discoverable, but the way it
is now is clearly wrong.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-08 12:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-28 19:36 [PATCH v4 00/14] Allocate payload arrays dynamically cel
2025-04-28 19:36 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] svcrdma: Reduce the number of rdma_rw contexts per-QP cel
2025-05-06 13:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-06 13:17     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-06 13:40       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-06 13:55         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-06 14:13           ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-06 14:17             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-06 14:19               ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-06 14:22                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-08  8:41                   ` Edward Srouji
2025-05-08 12:43                     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-05-10 23:12                       ` Edward Srouji
2025-04-28 19:36 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] sunrpc: Add a helper to derive maxpages from sv_max_mesg cel
2025-05-06 13:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-28 19:36 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] sunrpc: Remove backchannel check in svc_init_buffer() cel
2025-05-06 13:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-28 19:36 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] sunrpc: Replace the rq_pages array with dynamically-allocated memory cel
2025-04-30  4:53   ` NeilBrown
2025-04-28 19:36 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] sunrpc: Replace the rq_vec " cel
2025-05-06 13:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-06 16:31     ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-07  7:34       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-28 19:36 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] sunrpc: Replace the rq_bvec " cel
2025-04-28 19:36 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] sunrpc: Adjust size of socket's receive page array dynamically cel
2025-04-28 19:36 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] svcrdma: Adjust the number of entries in svc_rdma_recv_ctxt::rc_pages cel
2025-05-06 13:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-06 15:20     ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-07  7:40       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-28 19:36 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] svcrdma: Adjust the number of entries in svc_rdma_send_ctxt::sc_pages cel
2025-04-28 19:36 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] sunrpc: Remove the RPCSVC_MAXPAGES macro cel
2025-04-28 19:36 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] NFSD: Remove NFSD_BUFSIZE cel
2025-04-28 21:03   ` Jeff Layton
2025-05-06 13:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-28 19:37 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] NFSD: Remove NFSSVC_MAXBLKSIZE_V2 macro cel
2025-05-06 13:33   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-28 19:37 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] NFSD: Add a "default" block size cel
2025-04-28 21:07   ` Jeff Layton
2025-04-28 19:37 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] SUNRPC: Bump the maximum payload size for the server cel
2025-04-28 21:08   ` Jeff Layton
2025-04-29 15:44     ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-06 13:34   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-06 13:52     ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-06 13:54       ` Jeff Layton
2025-05-06 13:59         ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-07  7:42       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-07 14:25         ` Chuck Lever
2025-04-29 13:06 ` [PATCH v4 00/14] Allocate payload arrays dynamically Zhu Yanjun
2025-04-29 13:41   ` Chuck Lever
2025-04-29 13:52     ` Zhu Yanjun
2025-04-30  5:11 ` NeilBrown
2025-04-30 12:45   ` Chuck Lever

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