From: Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Linux NFS Mailing list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux NFSv4 mailing list <nfsv4@linux-nfs.org>,
SystemTAP <systemtap@sources.redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/5] NFS: trace points added to mounting path
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:49:43 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49789597.8030504@RedHat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1232638257.7589.16.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>
Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 08:07 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>>> I think it might be a good idea to flesh out a bit what you mean by
>>> "debugging" here. Since you mentioned it in conjunction with the two
>>> words "administrators" and "scripts", I assume that you are not talking
>>> about kernel code debugging?
>> I'm talking debugging for both admins and kernel people...
>>
>> With trace points and systemtap you can do both.
>
> Yes, but we still need to figure out details of what each type of user
> is expecting/wants.
Will that be possible? Until we get something in their hands, how will
they even know what they want or need.
>
> I suspect that when we get down to cases, we will find that a lot of the
> tracepoints that administrators find useful will want to be put in the
> VFS rather than in the filesystems themselves. If you have tracepoints
> in sys_stat() and sys_fstat(), why would you also need a tracepoint in
> nfs_getattr()? AFAICS, that would just make scripting ugly...
I believe there is an effort to do some type of system call tracing
as we speak and that effort should be followed to ensure there is
no duplicate of effort... But in the end, I would think more would be
better then less... since each point can be explicitly enabled and disabled
a little duplication may not be all that bad..
steved.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-22 15:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-16 16:22 [RFC][PATCH 0/5] NFS: trace points added to mounting path Steve Dickson
2009-01-16 16:30 ` [PATCH 3/5] NFS: Adding trace points to nfs/client.c Steve Dickson
2009-01-16 16:32 ` [PATCH 4/5] NFS: Convert trace points to trace markers Steve Dickson
2009-01-16 16:33 ` [PATCH 5/5] NFS: Systemtap script Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <4970B451.4080201-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-16 16:25 ` [PATCH 1/5] NFS: Adding trace points to fs/nfs/getroot.c Steve Dickson
2009-01-16 16:28 ` [PATCH 2/5] NFS: Adding trace points to fs/nfs/super.c Steve Dickson
2009-01-16 18:52 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/5] NFS: trace points added to mounting path Chuck Lever
2009-01-21 17:13 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <497757D1.7090908-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-21 18:01 ` Chuck Lever
2009-01-21 19:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-21 19:58 ` Steve Dickson
2009-01-21 20:23 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-22 13:07 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <49786F9F.7030400-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-22 15:30 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-22 15:49 ` Steve Dickson [this message]
2009-01-22 17:47 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2009-01-21 19:37 ` Steve Dickson
2009-01-21 20:19 ` Chuck Lever
2009-01-21 22:36 ` Greg Banks
[not found] ` <4977A385.8000406-cP1dWloDopni96+mSzHFpQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-21 22:47 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2009-01-21 22:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-21 23:06 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2009-01-21 22:56 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-21 23:11 ` Greg Banks
2009-01-21 23:47 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-22 0:53 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-01-22 2:04 ` Greg Banks
[not found] ` <4977D431.1020906-cP1dWloDopni96+mSzHFpQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-22 15:27 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <49789073.1080200-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-22 22:43 ` Greg Banks
2009-01-21 22:56 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-21 23:05 ` Muntz, Daniel
2009-01-22 15:59 ` Steve Dickson
2009-01-22 16:45 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-22 22:54 ` Greg Banks
[not found] ` <4978F91C.4090208-cP1dWloDopni96+mSzHFpQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-23 18:09 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-23 22:18 ` Greg Banks
2009-01-23 18:17 ` Chuck Lever
2009-01-22 13:55 ` Steve Dickson
2009-01-22 22:31 ` Greg Banks
2009-01-21 21:26 ` Greg Banks
2009-01-22 15:19 ` Steve Dickson
2009-01-23 18:28 ` Chuck Lever
2009-01-23 22:21 ` Greg Banks
2009-01-16 23:44 ` Greg Banks
[not found] ` <49711BDF.3010605-cP1dWloDopni96+mSzHFpQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-17 16:15 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
[not found] ` <4972A8F5.7070806@opengridcomputing.com>
2009-01-18 17:47 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
[not found] ` <y0mmydpucww.fsf-vo4H8ooykKW2oG+2xah3EoGKTjYczspe@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-18 23:12 ` Greg Banks
[not found] ` <4973B777.2000102-cP1dWloDopni96+mSzHFpQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-19 15:41 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-01-19 23:13 ` Greg Banks
2009-01-19 14:27 ` Jeff Moyer
[not found] ` <x49ab9ntlpp.fsf-RRHT56Q3PSP4kTEheFKJxxDDeQx5vsVwAInAS/Ez/D0@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-19 19:49 ` Jason Baron
2009-01-19 22:58 ` Greg Banks
2009-01-21 10:13 ` K.Prasad
2009-01-21 16:39 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <49774FDC.5090307-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-21 17:04 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2009-01-21 19:59 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <20090121170401.GD4394-f8uhVLnGfZaxAyOMLChx1axOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-21 20:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-18 16:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
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