From: fche@redhat.com (Frank Ch. Eigler)
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Greg Banks <gnb@melbourne.sgi.com>,
nfsv4@linux-nfs.org,
Linux NFS Mailing list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
SystemTAP <systemtap@sources.redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/5] NFS: trace points added to mounting path
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:53:44 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <y0m63k8tb3b.fsf@ton.toronto.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1232581675.7692.121.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> (Trond Myklebust's message of "Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:47:55 -0500")
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> writes:
> [...] As I understand it, you are not only proposing to make that
> filter extremely fine (individually addressable trace points), but
> also to enable the application of scripting tools like systemtap and
> LTTng in order to provide bespoke debugging of your customer
> problems. Have I misunderstood you, or is that correct?
Perhaps.
> The question then is how is this going to work out in an environment
> where the individually addressable trace points/dprintk()s pop in
> and out of existence at the whim of a patch, and where the output
> format is similarly volatile?
It would work no worse than what there is now. For environments where
the code is not subject to that much patching, it could be
piggybacked-upon for more analysis.
> IOW: I'm referring to the difference between an interface that was
> designed purely to be interpreted by humans, and one that is
> designed from scratch to be interpreted by scripts.
It need not be a disjunction. As more formal machine-oriented
interfaces come into existence, the same tools can shift focus to
them. Depending on the tool, the shift may be nearly invisible to a
naive end user.
- FChE
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-22 0:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-16 16:22 [RFC][PATCH 0/5] NFS: trace points added to mounting path Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <4970B451.4080201-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-16 16:25 ` [PATCH 1/5] NFS: Adding trace points to fs/nfs/getroot.c Steve Dickson
2009-01-16 16:28 ` [PATCH 2/5] NFS: Adding trace points to fs/nfs/super.c Steve Dickson
2009-01-16 18:52 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/5] NFS: trace points added to mounting path Chuck Lever
2009-01-21 17:13 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <497757D1.7090908-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-21 18:01 ` Chuck Lever
2009-01-21 19:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-21 19:58 ` Steve Dickson
2009-01-21 20:23 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-22 13:07 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <49786F9F.7030400-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-22 15:30 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-22 15:49 ` Steve Dickson
2009-01-22 17:47 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2009-01-21 19:37 ` Steve Dickson
2009-01-21 20:19 ` Chuck Lever
2009-01-21 22:36 ` Greg Banks
[not found] ` <4977A385.8000406-cP1dWloDopni96+mSzHFpQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-21 22:47 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2009-01-21 22:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-21 23:06 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2009-01-21 22:56 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-21 23:11 ` Greg Banks
2009-01-21 23:47 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-22 0:53 ` Frank Ch. Eigler [this message]
2009-01-22 2:04 ` Greg Banks
[not found] ` <4977D431.1020906-cP1dWloDopni96+mSzHFpQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-22 15:27 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <49789073.1080200-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-22 22:43 ` Greg Banks
2009-01-21 22:56 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-21 23:05 ` Muntz, Daniel
2009-01-22 15:59 ` Steve Dickson
2009-01-22 16:45 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-22 22:54 ` Greg Banks
[not found] ` <4978F91C.4090208-cP1dWloDopni96+mSzHFpQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-23 18:09 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-23 22:18 ` Greg Banks
2009-01-23 18:17 ` Chuck Lever
2009-01-22 13:55 ` Steve Dickson
2009-01-22 22:31 ` Greg Banks
2009-01-21 21:26 ` Greg Banks
2009-01-22 15:19 ` Steve Dickson
2009-01-23 18:28 ` Chuck Lever
2009-01-23 22:21 ` Greg Banks
2009-01-16 23:44 ` Greg Banks
[not found] ` <49711BDF.3010605-cP1dWloDopni96+mSzHFpQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-17 16:15 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
[not found] ` <4972A8F5.7070806@opengridcomputing.com>
2009-01-18 17:47 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
[not found] ` <y0mmydpucww.fsf-vo4H8ooykKW2oG+2xah3EoGKTjYczspe@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-18 23:12 ` Greg Banks
[not found] ` <4973B777.2000102-cP1dWloDopni96+mSzHFpQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-19 15:41 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-01-19 23:13 ` Greg Banks
2009-01-19 14:27 ` Jeff Moyer
[not found] ` <x49ab9ntlpp.fsf-RRHT56Q3PSP4kTEheFKJxxDDeQx5vsVwAInAS/Ez/D0@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-19 19:49 ` Jason Baron
2009-01-19 22:58 ` Greg Banks
2009-01-21 10:13 ` K.Prasad
2009-01-21 16:39 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <49774FDC.5090307-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-21 17:04 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2009-01-21 19:59 ` Steve Dickson
[not found] ` <20090121170401.GD4394-f8uhVLnGfZaxAyOMLChx1axOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-21 20:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-18 16:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-16 16:30 ` [PATCH 3/5] NFS: Adding trace points to nfs/client.c Steve Dickson
2009-01-16 16:32 ` [PATCH 4/5] NFS: Convert trace points to trace markers Steve Dickson
2009-01-16 16:33 ` [PATCH 5/5] NFS: Systemtap script Steve Dickson
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