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From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
To: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH nfs-utils] exportfs: make "insecure" the default for all exports
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 09:54:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <930b2858-fd06-49f0-8896-f2aafdd3e047@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALXu0UcDcsUWKkSfuvE6E6GZ0qiR=-=QaQ5QFz+kgZ6oT2e0Mg@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/5/25 4:20 AM, Cedric Blancher wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 at 21:17, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 2025-06-04 at 14:26 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> On 5/13/25 9:50 AM, Jeff Layton wrote:
>>>> Back in the 80's someone thought it was a good idea to carve out a set
>>>> of ports that only privileged users could use. When NFS was originally
>>>> conceived, Sun made its server require that clients use low ports.
>>>> Since Linux was following suit with Sun in those days, exportfs has
>>>> always defaulted to requiring connections from low ports.
>>>>
>>>> These days, anyone can be root on their laptop, so limiting connections
>>>> to low source ports is of little value.
>>>>
>>>> Make the default be "insecure" when creating exports.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
>>>> ---
>>>> In discussion at the Bake-a-thon, we decided to just go for making
>>>> "insecure" the default for all exports.
>>>> ---
>>>>   support/nfs/exports.c      | 7 +++++--
>>>>   utils/exportfs/exports.man | 4 ++--
>>>>   2 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/support/nfs/exports.c b/support/nfs/exports.c
>>>> index 21ec6486ba3d3945df0800972ba1dfd03bd65375..69f8ca8b5e2ed50b837ef287ca0685af3e70ed0b 100644
>>>> --- a/support/nfs/exports.c
>>>> +++ b/support/nfs/exports.c
>>>> @@ -34,8 +34,11 @@
>>>>   #include "reexport.h"
>>>>   #include "nfsd_path.h"
>>>>
>>>> -#define EXPORT_DEFAULT_FLAGS       \
>>>> -  (NFSEXP_READONLY|NFSEXP_ROOTSQUASH|NFSEXP_GATHERED_WRITES|NFSEXP_NOSUBTREECHECK)
>>>> +#define EXPORT_DEFAULT_FLAGS       (NFSEXP_READONLY |      \
>>>> +                            NFSEXP_ROOTSQUASH |    \
>>>> +                            NFSEXP_GATHERED_WRITES |\
>>>> +                            NFSEXP_NOSUBTREECHECK | \
>>>> +                            NFSEXP_INSECURE_PORT)
>>>>
>>>>   struct flav_info flav_map[] = {
>>>>     { "krb5",       RPC_AUTH_GSS_KRB5,      1},
>>>> diff --git a/utils/exportfs/exports.man b/utils/exportfs/exports.man
>>>> index 39dc30fb8290213990ca7a14b1b3971140b0d120..0b62bb3a82b0e74bc2a7eb84301c4ec97b14d003 100644
>>>> --- a/utils/exportfs/exports.man
>>>> +++ b/utils/exportfs/exports.man
>>>> @@ -180,8 +180,8 @@ understands the following export options:
>>>>   .TP
>>>>   .IR secure
>>>>   This option requires that requests not using gss originate on an
>>>> -Internet port less than IPPORT_RESERVED (1024). This option is on by default.
>>>> -To turn it off, specify
>>>> +Internet port less than IPPORT_RESERVED (1024). This option is off by default
>>>> +but can be explicitly disabled by specifying
>>>>   .IR insecure .
>>>>   (NOTE: older kernels (before upstream kernel version 4.17) enforced this
>>>>   requirement on gss requests as well.)
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> base-commit: 2cf015ea4312f37598efe9733fef3232ab67f784
>>>> change-id: 20250513-master-89974087bb04
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>> My apologies but I got a bit lost in the fairly large thread
>>> What as is consensus on this patch? Thumbs up or down.
>>> Will there be a V2?
>>>
>>> I'm wondering what type documentation impact this would
>>> have on all docs out there that say one has to be root
>>> to do the mount.
>>>
>>> I guess I'm not against the patch but as Neil pointed
>>> out making things insecure is a different direction
>>> that the rest of the world is going.
>>>
>>> my two cents,
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thumbs down for now. Neil argued for a more measured approach to
>> changing this.
> 
> What about renaming the option to "resvport" / "noresvport"?

I've also wondered about renaming the export option. "secure" is
terribly misleading and quite unspecific.

And agreed, after adding the new name, "secure" would need to remain as
a (perhaps hidden) synonym for a while.


-- 
Chuck Lever

      reply	other threads:[~2025-06-05 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-13 13:50 [PATCH nfs-utils] exportfs: make "insecure" the default for all exports Jeff Layton
2025-05-13 14:17 ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-13 15:14 ` Lionel Cons
2025-05-13 15:35   ` Jeff Layton
2025-05-13 16:11   ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-04 17:12     ` Cedric Blancher
2025-06-04 18:20       ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-14  2:16 ` NeilBrown
2025-05-14  2:28   ` NeilBrown
2025-05-14 11:17     ` Jeff Layton
2025-05-14 11:43       ` NeilBrown
2025-05-14 12:02         ` Jeff Layton
2025-05-14 21:58           ` NeilBrown
2025-05-14 12:56         ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-14 21:47           ` NeilBrown
2025-05-15 12:01             ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-15 21:44               ` NeilBrown
2025-05-16 12:09                 ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-19  6:02                   ` NeilBrown
2025-05-19 11:39                     ` Jeff Layton
2025-05-19 14:16                     ` Chuck Lever
     [not found]                       ` <4bee9565-c2a8-4b90-be57-7d1340fa9ed7@esat.kuleuven.be>
2025-05-19 20:51                         ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-20  1:44                       ` Rick Macklem
2025-05-20 13:20                         ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-25 17:29                           ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-26  0:09                             ` NeilBrown
2025-05-26  1:47                               ` Rick Macklem
2025-05-26  1:52                                 ` Rick Macklem
2025-05-26  2:29                                 ` NeilBrown
2025-05-28  0:57                                   ` Rick Macklem
2025-05-27 13:28                                 ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-27 15:05                               ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-27 15:58                                 ` Rick Macklem
2025-05-27 16:29                                 ` Rick Macklem
2025-05-27 16:58                                   ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-28  1:06                                     ` Rick Macklem
2025-05-27 19:18                                 ` Benjamin Coddington
2025-05-27 19:41                                   ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-27 20:25                                     ` Benjamin Coddington
2025-05-28 14:07                                       ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-28  1:24                                     ` NeilBrown
2025-05-28  2:48                                       ` Rick Macklem
2025-05-14 11:46     ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-14 12:28   ` Thomas Haynes
2025-05-14 21:49     ` NeilBrown
2025-05-14  2:38 ` NeilBrown
2025-05-14 11:20   ` Jeff Layton
2025-05-15  1:32     ` Christopher Bii
2025-05-21  9:06 ` Sebastian Feld
2025-05-21 12:25   ` Jeff Layton
2025-05-21 13:14   ` Chuck Lever
2025-05-21 13:43     ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-04 17:07 ` Cedric Blancher
2025-06-04 18:26 ` Steve Dickson
2025-06-04 18:45   ` Cedric Blancher
2025-06-04 19:17   ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-04 19:53     ` Steve Dickson
2025-06-05 16:48       ` Trond Myklebust
2025-06-05 18:09         ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-05  8:20     ` Cedric Blancher
2025-06-05 13:54       ` Chuck Lever [this message]

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