From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] NFSD: fix misaligned DIO READ to not use a start_extra_page, exposes rpcrdma bug?
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2025 17:00:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aLn93-BKnlIgADXq@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12b7f4cf-5781-4c98-92d0-3fdd03df39da@oracle.com>
On Thu, Sep 04, 2025 at 03:07:30PM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> On 9/2/25 6:18 PM, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 02, 2025 at 05:27:11PM -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> >> On Tue, Sep 02, 2025 at 05:16:10PM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> >>> On 9/2/25 5:06 PM, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 02, 2025 at 01:59:12PM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> >>>>> On 9/2/25 11:56 AM, Chuck Lever wrote:
> >>>>>> On 8/30/25 1:38 PM, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> dt (j:1 t:1): File System Information:
> >>>>>>> dt (j:1 t:1): Mounted from device: 192.168.0.105:/hs_test
> >>>>>>> dt (j:1 t:1): Mounted on directory: /mnt/hs_test
> >>>>>>> dt (j:1 t:1): Filesystem type: nfs4
> >>>>>>> dt (j:1 t:1): Filesystem options: rw,relatime,vers=4.2,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,namlen=255,hard,fatal_neterrors=none,proto=tcp,nconnect=16,port=20491,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,clientaddr=192.168.0.106,local_lock=none,addr=192.168.0.105
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I haven't been able to reproduce a similar failure in my lab with
> >>>>>> NFSv4.2 over RDMA with FDR InfiniBand. I've run dt 6-7 times, all
> >>>>>> successful. Also, for shit giggles, I tried the fsx-based subtests in
> >>>>>> fstests, no new failures there either. The export is xfs on an NVMe
> >>>>>> add-on card; server uses direct I/O for READ and page cache for WRITE.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Notice the mount options for your test run: "proto=tcp" and
> >>>>>> "nconnect=16". Even if your network fabric is RoCE, "proto=tcp" will
> >>>>>> not use RDMA at all; it will use bog standard TCP/IP on your ultra
> >>>>>> fast Ethernet network.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What should I try next? I can apply 2/2 or add "nconnect" or move the
> >>>>>> testing to my RoCE fabric after lunch and keep poking at it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hmm, I'll have to check with the Hammerspace performance team to
> >>>> understand how RDMA used if the client mount has proto=tcp.
> >>>>
> >>>> Certainly surprising, thanks for noticing/reporting this aspect.
> >>>>
> >>>> I also cannot reproduce on a normal tcp mount and testbed. This
> >>>> frankenbeast of a fast "RDMA" network that is misconfigured to use
> >>>> proto=tcp is the only testbed where I've seen this dt data mismatch.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Or, I could switch to TCP. Suggestions welcome.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The client is not sending any READ procedures/operations to the server.
> >>>>> The following is NFSv3 for clarity, but NFSv4.x results are similar:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> nfsd-1669 [003] 1466.634816: svc_process:
> >>>>> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x7b2a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=NULL
> >>>>> nfsd-1669 [003] 1466.635389: svc_process:
> >>>>> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x7d2a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=FSINFO
> >>>>> nfsd-1669 [003] 1466.635420: svc_process:
> >>>>> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x7e2a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=PATHCONF
> >>>>> nfsd-1669 [003] 1466.635451: svc_process:
> >>>>> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x7f2a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=GETATTR
> >>>>> nfsd-1669 [003] 1466.635486: svc_process:
> >>>>> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x802a6274 service=nfsacl vers=3 proc=NULL
> >>>>> nfsd-1669 [003] 1466.635558: svc_process:
> >>>>> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x812a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=FSINFO
> >>>>> nfsd-1669 [003] 1466.635585: svc_process:
> >>>>> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x822a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=GETATTR
> >>>>> nfsd-1669 [003] 1470.029208: svc_process:
> >>>>> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x832a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=ACCESS
> >>>>> nfsd-1669 [003] 1470.029255: svc_process:
> >>>>> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x842a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=LOOKUP
> >>>>> nfsd-1669 [003] 1470.029296: svc_process:
> >>>>> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x852a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=FSSTAT
> >>>>> nfsd-1669 [003] 1470.039715: svc_process:
> >>>>> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x862a6274 service=nfsacl vers=3 proc=GETACL
> >>>>> nfsd-1669 [003] 1470.039758: svc_process:
> >>>>> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x872a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=CREATE
> >>>>> nfsd-1669 [003] 1470.040091: svc_process:
> >>>>> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x882a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=WRITE
> >>>>> nfsd-1669 [003] 1470.040469: svc_process:
> >>>>> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x892a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=GETATTR
> >>>>> nfsd-1669 [003] 1470.040503: svc_process:
> >>>>> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x8a2a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=ACCESS
> >>>>> nfsd-1669 [003] 1470.041867: svc_process:
> >>>>> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x8b2a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=FSSTAT
> >>>>> nfsd-1669 [003] 1470.042109: svc_process:
> >>>>> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x8c2a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=REMOVE
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So I'm probably missing some setting on the reproducer/client.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> /mnt from klimt.ib.1015granger.net:/export/fast
> >>>>> Flags: rw,relatime,vers=3,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,namlen=255,hard,
> >>>>> fatal_neterrors=none,proto=rdma,port=20049,timeo=600,retrans=2,
> >>>>> sec=sys,mountaddr=192.168.2.55,mountvers=3,mountproto=tcp,
> >>>>> local_lock=none,addr=192.168.2.55
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Linux morisot.1015granger.net 6.15.10-100.fc41.x86_64 #1 SMP
> >>>>> PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Aug 15 14:55:12 UTC 2025 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> >>>>
> >>>> If you're using LOCALIO (client on server) that'd explain your not
> >>>> seeing any READs coming over the wire to NFSD.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've made sure to disable LOCALIO on my client, with:
> >>>> echo N > /sys/module/nfs/parameters/localio_enabled
> >>>
> >>> I am testing with a physically separate client and server, so I believe
> >>> that LOCALIO is not in play. I do see WRITEs. And other workloads (in
> >>> particular "fsx -Z <fname>") show READ traffic and I'm getting the
> >>> new trace point to fire quite a bit, and it is showing misaligned
> >>> READ requests. So it has something to do with dt.
> >>
> >> OK, yeah I figured you weren't doing loopback mount, only thing that
> >> came to mind for you not seeing READ like expected. I haven't had any
> >> problems with dt not driving READs to NFSD...
> >>
> >> You'll certainly need to see READs in order for NFSD's new misaligned
> >> DIO READ handling to get tested.
> >>
> >>> If I understand your two patches correctly, they are still pulling a
> >>> page from the end of rq_pages to do the initial pad page. That, I
> >>> think, is a working implementation, not the failing one.
> >>
> >> Patch 1 removes the use of a separate page, instead using the very
> >> first page of rq_pages for the "start_extra" (or "front_pad) page for
> >> the misaligned DIO READ. And with that my dt testing fails with data
> >> mismatch like I shared. So patch 1 is failing implementation (for me
> >> on the "RDMA" system I'm testing on).
> >>
> >> Patch 2 then switches to using a rq_pages page _after_ the memory that
> >> would normally get used as the READ payload memory to service the
> >> READ. So patch 2 is a working implementation.
> >>
> >>> EOD -- will continue tomorrow.
> >>
> >> Ack.
> >>
> >
> > The reason for proto=tcp is that I was mounting the Hammerspace
> > Anvil (metadata server) via 4.2 using tcp. And it is the layout that
> > the metadata server hands out that directs my 4.2 flexfiles client to
> > then access the DS over v3 using RDMA. My particular DS server in the
> > broader testbed has the following in /etc/nfs.conf:
> >
> > [general]
> >
> > [nfsrahead]
> >
> > [exports]
> >
> > [exportfs]
> >
> > [gssd]
> > use-gss-proxy = 1
> >
> > [lockd]
> >
> > [exportd]
> >
> > [mountd]
> >
> > [nfsdcld]
> >
> > [nfsdcltrack]
> >
> > [nfsd]
> > rdma = y
> > rdma-port = 20049
> > threads = 576
> > vers4.0 = n
> > vers4.1 = n
> >
> > [statd]
> >
> > [sm-notify]
> >
> > And if I instead mount with:
> >
> > mount -o vers=3,proto=rdma,port=20049 192.168.0.106:/mnt/hs_nvme13 /test
> >
> > And then re-run dt, I don't see any data mismatch:
>
> I'm beginning to suspect that NFSv3 isn't the interesting case. For
> NFSv3 READs, nfsd_iter_read() is always called with @base == 0.
>
> NFSv4 READs, on the other hand, set @base to whatever is the current
> end of the send buffer's .pages array. The checks in
> nfsd_analyze_read_dio() might reject the use of direct I/O, or it
> might be that the code is setting up the alignment of the read buffer
> incorrectly.
That's great point. I think it is the latter.
nfsd_analyze_read_dio() doesn't concern itself with @base. And after
nfsd_iter_read() calls nfsd_analyze_read_dio() the 'start_extra' page
is prepared assuming its base is 0:
if (read_dio.start_extra) {
len = read_dio.start_extra;
bvec_set_page(&rqstp->rq_bvec[v],
NULL, /* set below */
len, PAGE_SIZE - len);
It is loop in nfsd_iter_read() is what is accounting for @base:
while (total) {
len = min_t(size_t, total, PAGE_SIZE - base);
bvec_set_page(&rqstp->rq_bvec[v], *(rqstp->rq_next_page++),
len, base);
total -= len;
++v;
base = 0;
}
Which explains why using one past the end "just works" with:
if ((kiocb.ki_flags & IOCB_DIRECT) && read_dio.start_extra)
rqstp->rq_bvec[0].bv_page = *(rqstp->rq_next_page++);
I purposely avoided having the start_extra page need to account for
@base because:
1) I thought it best to not have 2 places dealing with @base;
unwittingly requiring start_extra page stand on its own.
2) otherwise it could cause start_extra's length to bleed into the
next page... which would cascade through all pages, and complicate
the accounting needed in nfsd_complete_misaligned_read_dio() to
unwind having expanded the misaligned DIO READ to be DIO aligned.
This all makes sense to me now... does it for you?
(nice catch on @base being the key... was sitting there in plain sight
the whole time)
Not loving the need for multiple checks for read_dio.start_extra
nfsd_iter_read() (with both of v9's 8/9 and 9/9 applied). But it
feels better than getting more fiddly elsewhere.
So replacing v9's 9/9 by folding this incremental into 5/9 would be
preferrable for me (but I know you want to reassess/rework 5/9 anyway,
so I'll defer to you at this point? no matter what: THANKS!):
diff --git a/fs/nfsd/vfs.c b/fs/nfsd/vfs.c
index 5b3c6072b6f5c..43bbd8f3e39bd 100644
--- a/fs/nfsd/vfs.c
+++ b/fs/nfsd/vfs.c
@@ -1263,7 +1263,7 @@ __be32 nfsd_iter_read(struct svc_rqst *rqstp, struct svc_fh *fhp,
if (read_dio.start_extra) {
len = read_dio.start_extra;
bvec_set_page(&rqstp->rq_bvec[v],
- *(rqstp->rq_next_page++),
+ NULL, /* set below */
len, PAGE_SIZE - len);
total -= len;
++v;
@@ -1288,6 +1288,12 @@ __be32 nfsd_iter_read(struct svc_rqst *rqstp, struct svc_fh *fhp,
base = 0;
}
WARN_ON_ONCE(v > rqstp->rq_maxpages);
+ /* The start_extra page must come from the end of rq_pages[]
+ * so that it can stand on its own and be easily dropped
+ * by nfsd_complete_misaligned_read_dio().
+ */
+ if ((kiocb.ki_flags & IOCB_DIRECT) && read_dio.start_extra)
+ rqstp->rq_bvec[0].bv_page = *(rqstp->rq_next_page++);
trace_nfsd_read_vector(rqstp, fhp, offset, in_count);
iov_iter_bvec(&iter, ITER_DEST, rqstp->rq_bvec, v, in_count);
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-04 21:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-26 18:57 [PATCH v8 0/7] NFSD: add "NFSD DIRECT" and "NFSD DONTCACHE" IO modes Mike Snitzer
2025-08-26 18:57 ` [PATCH v8 1/7] NFSD: filecache: add STATX_DIOALIGN and STATX_DIO_READ_ALIGN support Mike Snitzer
2025-08-26 18:57 ` [PATCH v8 2/7] NFSD: pass nfsd_file to nfsd_iter_read() Mike Snitzer
2025-08-26 18:57 ` [PATCH v8 3/7] NFSD: add io_cache_read controls to debugfs interface Mike Snitzer
2025-09-03 14:38 ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-03 15:07 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-03 16:02 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-03 16:12 ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-03 16:50 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-08-26 18:57 ` [PATCH v8 4/7] NFSD: add io_cache_write " Mike Snitzer
2025-08-26 18:57 ` [PATCH v8 5/7] NFSD: issue READs using O_DIRECT even if IO is misaligned Mike Snitzer
2025-08-27 15:34 ` Chuck Lever
2025-08-27 19:41 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-08-27 20:56 ` Chuck Lever
2025-08-27 23:15 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-08-28 1:57 ` Chuck Lever
2025-08-28 8:09 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-08-28 14:53 ` Chuck Lever
2025-08-28 18:52 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-08-30 17:38 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] some progress on rpcrdma bug [was: Re: [PATCH v8 5/7] NFSD: issue READs using O_DIRECT even if IO is misaligned] Mike Snitzer
2025-08-30 17:38 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] NFSD: fix misaligned DIO READ to not use a start_extra_page, exposes rpcrdma bug? Mike Snitzer
2025-09-02 14:04 ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-02 15:56 ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-02 17:59 ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-02 21:06 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-02 21:16 ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-02 21:27 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-02 22:18 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-04 19:07 ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-04 21:00 ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2025-09-04 14:42 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-04 15:12 ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-04 16:10 ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-04 16:33 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-04 17:54 ` Chuck Lever
2025-08-30 17:38 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] NFSD: use /end/ of rq_pages for front_pad page, simpler workaround for rpcrdma bug Mike Snitzer
2025-08-30 18:53 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] some progress on rpcrdma bug [was: Re: [PATCH v8 5/7] NFSD: issue READs using O_DIRECT even if IO is misaligned] Mike Snitzer
2025-08-28 16:36 ` [PATCH v8 5/7] NFSD: issue READs using O_DIRECT even if IO is misaligned Jeff Layton
2025-08-28 16:22 ` Jeff Layton
2025-08-28 16:27 ` Chuck Lever
2025-08-26 18:57 ` [PATCH v8 6/7] NFSD: issue WRITEs " Mike Snitzer
2025-08-26 18:57 ` [PATCH v8 7/7] NFSD: add nfsd_analyze_read_dio and nfsd_analyze_write_dio trace events Mike Snitzer
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