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From: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
To: Clay Mayers <Clay.Mayers@kioxia.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>, Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <Chaitanya.Kulkarni@wdc.com>,
	"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 0/2] nvme: Support for fused NVME_IOCTL_SUBMIT_IO
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 20:12:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210209031252.GA97526@C02WT3WMHTD6> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b2a0593cd1fc4f239bbd44f3f43d4bcd@kioxia.com>

On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 12:53:17AM +0000, Clay Mayers wrote:
> Is there any other feedback on V2?
> 
> My main concern I have about my implementation is how fused requests
> are tunneled through the mq request layer.  The 1st request is marked as
> started but it won't be in the device until the 2nd command is queued.  As
> Keith pointed out, a device reset can split the two so care must be taken to
> correctly handle this case.  Despite this, I thought this was a better approach
> than modifying mq requests to be fused.  Especially given Christoph's 
> concern of cost vs value.  This is the lightest touch I could come up with.
> 
> Further consideration of this patch may need a more compelling use case.
> I've worked on a proprietary storage systems that relied on fused NVMeOF
> support so it seems compelling to me.  There's a comment in target/core.c
> that there is "no support for fused commands yet" implying it's been
> considered.  Is pci only support for fused too soon or too little?  What would
> make it more compelling?

The complications it introduces to the IO path and error handling for an
archaic feature has me on the "Nak" side. NVMeOF was introduced well after the
spec define Reservations, and the kernel has supported that capability for many
years. I'm not aware of any other use case for fused commands, so it appears to
be dead weight in the spec.

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-09  3:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-05 22:49 [PATCH 0/2] nvme: Support for fused NVME_IOCTL_SUBMIT_IO klayph
2021-01-05 22:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] nvme: support fused nvme requests klayph
2021-01-05 23:52   ` Keith Busch
2021-01-06 14:55     ` Clay Mayers
2021-01-06  0:35   ` James Smart
2021-01-06 15:01     ` Clay Mayers
2021-01-06  7:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-25 19:58   ` [PATCH V2 0/2] nvme: Support for fused NVME_IOCTL_SUBMIT_IO clay.mayers
2021-01-26  1:43     ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-01-26 18:17       ` Clay Mayers
2021-01-26 19:00         ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-01-26 21:14           ` Clay Mayers
2021-02-09  0:53           ` Clay Mayers
2021-02-09  3:12             ` Keith Busch [this message]
2021-02-09 15:24               ` Bart Van Assche
2021-02-09 15:38               ` Clay Mayers
2021-02-09  7:54             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-09 15:53               ` Clay Mayers
2021-01-25 19:58   ` [PATCH V2 1/2] nvme: support fused pci nvme requests clay.mayers
2021-01-25 19:58   ` [PATCH V2 2/2] nvme: support fused NVME_IOCTL_SUBMIT_IO clay.mayers
2021-01-05 22:49 ` [PATCH " klayph
2021-01-05 23:04 ` [PATCH 0/2] nvme: Support for " James Smart

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