[parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360

[parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360

[Grant Grundler]

On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 04:17:02PM +0200, Zlatan Jukic wrote:
> I could not start unfortunately the X-Windows system, because it is not
> supported by Fx-4 video card.?!

correct

> My question is here:  Must I insert another card (and which??),  in order to
> start X-Windows-system?

> According to Debian HPPA, the Visualize EG should correct to function.  

yes. *PCI* version of the card.
Vis-EG HSC card might also work.

> This card is a 24-bit-video-card, which is recognized in the best way under
> Linux as "Coral" with HP 715-64, 

Is that really a Vis-EG HSC card?
Can you post "dmesg" output where STI describes the card?

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360

[Derek Engelhaupt]

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Yes, there is an HSC EG card.  Used it in my C360 before I sold it.  The PCI version of the card has more memory on it though.
 
derek

Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 04:17:02PM +0200, Zlatan Jukic wrote:
> I could not start unfortunately the X-Windows system, because it is not
> supported by Fx-4 video card.?!

correct

> My question is here: Must I insert another card (and which??), in order to
> start X-Windows-system?

> According to Debian HPPA, the Visualize EG should correct to function. 

yes. *PCI* version of the card.
Vis-EG HSC card might also work.

> This card is a 24-bit-video-card, which is recognized in the best way under
> Linux as "Coral" with HP 715-64, 

Is that really a Vis-EG HSC card?
Can you post "dmesg" output where STI describes the card?

grant
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RE: [parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360

[Zlatan Jukic]

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Hello Derek and all,

 

Thank you for your assistance.  Thank you Grant, too!

 

You already tested this card (Vis EG HSC) on your HP-Visualize C360 machine.
The X-Windows system should be started in this case.  

Can you say me please, where can I find/order and buy this card?

 

Thank you very much,

Kind regards, Zlatan

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Engelhaupt [mailto:derekengelhaupt@rocketmail.com] 
Sent: Mittwoch, 18. Juni 2003 18:00
To: Grant Grundler; Jukic Zlatan
Cc: parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360

 

Yes, there is an HSC EG card.  Used it in my C360 before I sold it.  The PCI
version of the card has more memory on it though.

 

derek

Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org> wrote:

On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 04:17:02PM +0200, Zlatan Jukic wrote:
> I could not start unfortunately the X-Windows system, because it is not
> supported by Fx-4 video card.?!

correct

> My question is here: Must I insert another card (and which??), in order to
> start X-Windows-system?

> According to Debian HPPA, the Visualize EG should correct to function. 

yes. *PCI* version of the card.
Vis-EG HSC card might also work.

> This card is a 24-bit-video-card, which is recognized in the best way
under
> Linux as "Coral" with HP 715-64, 

Is that really a Vis-EG HSC card?
Can you post "dmesg" output where STI describes the card?

grant
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Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360

[Grant Grundler]

On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 06:56:38PM +0200, Zlatan Jukic wrote:
> You already tested this card (Vis EG HSC) on your HP-Visualize C360 machine.
> The X-Windows system should be started in this case.  
> 
> Can you say me please, where can I find/order and buy this card?

I don't know.  google? ebay?

grant

RE: [parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360

[Derek Engelhaupt]

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You will need one of the following cards:  A4977A (PCI), A4450A (GSC), or A4451A (GSC dual head).  Part numbers are listed below.  You will also need an EVC to 15-pin converter for all of these cards and that part number is listed below also.  All of this info came from partsurfer.hp.com (no "www" in front of it).  There is a PCI EG card for sale on Ebay:  
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3031053367&category=11221
 
Looks like Cypress Tech ( sales@cypress-tech.com) have some of the A4450A GSC cards, but I've never had any dealings with them.  Their prices on Ebay seem high though.   Good luck.
 
A4450-66501636.00VISUALIZE-EG graphic accelerator board - For 2D and 3D wireframe graphics - Includes color recovery (P/O A4450A) 


A4451-665011644.00Dual VISUALIZE-EG graphic accelerator board - For 2D and 3D wireframe graphics - Includes color recovery (A4451A) 
 
1253-063528.00Enhanced Video Connector (EVC) video adapter cable - EVC(M) to 15-pin(F) - 7.87in (0.2m) long - Used to connect EVC video output to 15-pin monitor 
 
A4977-66501VIZUALIZE-EG/PCI 

Zlatan Jukic <zlatan.jukic@fh-vorarlberg.ac.at> wrote:

Hello Derek and all,

 

Thank you for your assistance.  Thank you Grant, too!

 

You already tested this card (Vis EG HSC) on your HP-Visualize C360 machine. The X-Windows system should be started in this case.  

Can you say me please, where can I find/order and buy this card?

 

Thank you very much,

Kind regards, Zlatan

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Engelhaupt [mailto:derekengelhaupt@rocketmail.com] 
Sent: Mittwoch, 18. Juni 2003 18:00
To: Grant Grundler; Jukic Zlatan
Cc: parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360

 

Yes, there is an HSC EG card.  Used it in my C360 before I sold it.  The PCI version of the card has more memory on it though.


 


derek

Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org> wrote:


On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 04:17:02PM +0200, Zlatan Jukic wrote:
> I could not start unfortunately the X-Windows system, because it is not
> supported by Fx-4 video card.?!

correct

> My question is here: Must I insert another card (and which??), in order to
> start X-Windows-system?

> According to Debian HPPA, the Visualize EG should correct to function. 

yes. *PCI* version of the card.
Vis-EG HSC card might also work.

> This card is a 24-bit-video-card, which is recognized in the best way under
> Linux as "Coral" with HP 715-64, 

Is that really a Vis-EG HSC card?
Can you post "dmesg" output where STI describes the card?

grant
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RE: [parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360

[adrian.criveanu]

Hi!

I apologize for intruding upon you, but I have a C240 with a A4450A (GSC)
card and I couldn't make it work. I was even under the impression that only the
PCI version of it is supported (as I read in some e-mails). I used the 3.0
CDs. It would be highly appreciated if you could tell me what are the steps to
make it work under X, as now it only works for me if I connect to the C240
over a serial port.

I apologize again if you've already answered that before, but I couldn't
find much documentation out there to tell me exactly what to do. People talk
abot different kernel versions and things like that but a "how to" kind of
document would be very, very helpful and I think would make more people try Debian
on PA-RISC boxes. 

Thank you very much and apologie again for bothering you.

Best regards,

Adrian

> You will need one of the following cards:  A4977A (PCI), A4450A (GSC), or
> A4451A (GSC dual head).  Part numbers are listed below.  You will also
need
> an EVC to 15-pin converter for all of these cards and that part number is
> listed below also.  All of this info came from partsurfer.hp.com (no "www"
> in front of it).  There is a PCI EG card for sale on Ebay:  
>  
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3031053367&category=11221
>  
> Looks like Cypress Tech ( sales@cypress-tech.com) have some of the A4450A
> GSC cards, but I've never had any dealings with them.  Their prices on
Ebay
> seem high though.   Good luck.
>  
> A4450-66501636.00VISUALIZE-EG graphic accelerator board - For 2D and 3D
> wireframe graphics - Includes color recovery (P/O A4450A) 
> 
> 
> A4451-665011644.00Dual VISUALIZE-EG graphic accelerator board - For 2D and
> 3D wireframe graphics - Includes color recovery (A4451A) 
>  
> 1253-063528.00Enhanced Video Connector (EVC) video adapter cable - EVC(M)
> to 15-pin(F) - 7.87in (0.2m) long - Used to connect EVC video output to
> 15-pin monitor 
>  
> A4977-66501VIZUALIZE-EG/PCI 
> 
> Zlatan Jukic <zlatan.jukic@fh-vorarlberg.ac.at> wrote:
> 
> Hello Derek and all,
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you for your assistance.  Thank you Grant, too!
> 
>  
> 
> You already tested this card (Vis EG HSC) on your HP-Visualize C360
> machine. The X-Windows system should be started in this case.  
> 
> Can you say me please, where can I find/order and buy this card?
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you very much,
> 
> Kind regards, Zlatan
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Derek Engelhaupt [mailto:derekengelhaupt@rocketmail.com] 
> Sent: Mittwoch, 18. Juni 2003 18:00
> To: Grant Grundler; Jukic Zlatan
> Cc: parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360
> 
>  
> 
> Yes, there is an HSC EG card.  Used it in my C360 before I sold it.  The
> PCI version of the card has more memory on it though.
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> derek
> 
> Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 04:17:02PM +0200, Zlatan Jukic wrote:
> > I could not start unfortunately the X-Windows system, because it is not
> > supported by Fx-4 video card.?!
> 
> correct
> 
> > My question is here: Must I insert another card (and which??), in order
> to
> > start X-Windows-system?
> 
> > According to Debian HPPA, the Visualize EG should correct to function. 
> 
> yes. *PCI* version of the card.
> Vis-EG HSC card might also work.
> 
> > This card is a 24-bit-video-card, which is recognized in the best way
> under
> > Linux as "Coral" with HP 715-64, 
> 
> Is that really a Vis-EG HSC card?
> Can you post "dmesg" output where STI describes the card?
> 
> grant
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Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360

[Jesse Dougherty]

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Hi Derek, thanks for the plug. We do have the A4977A and A4450A graphics
cards for $125.00 each, the converter is $25.00.

Thanks
Jesse
Cypress Technology Inc
727-557-0911

Derek Engelhaupt wrote:

> You will need one of the following cards:  A4977A (PCI), A4450A (GSC),
> or A4451A (GSC dual head).  Part numbers are listed below.  You will
> also need an EVC to 15-pin converter for all of these cards and that
> part number is listed below also.  All of this info came from
> partsurfer.hp.com (no "www" in front of it).  There is a PCI EG card
> for sale on Ebay:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3031053367&category=11221
> Looks like Cypress Tech ( sales@cypress-tech.com) have some of the
> A4450A GSC cards, but I've never had any dealings with them.  Their
> prices on Ebay seem high though.   Good luck.
>

  A4450-66501  636.00
                      VISUALIZE-EG graphic accelerator board - For 2D
                      and 3D wireframe graphics - Includes color
                      recovery (P/O A4450A)
>

  A4451-66501  1644.00
                       Dual VISUALIZE-EG graphic accelerator board -
                       For 2D and 3D wireframe graphics - Includes
                       color recovery (A4451A)
>

  1253-0635  28.00
                   Enhanced Video Connector (EVC) video adapter cable -
                   EVC(M) to 15-pin(F) - 7.87in (0.2m) long - Used to
                   connect EVC video output to 15-pin monitor
>

  A4977-66501
               VIZUALIZE-EG/PCI
>
> Zlatan Jukic <zlatan.jukic@fh-vorarlberg.ac.at> wrote:
>
>      Hello Derek and all,
>
>      Thank you for your assistance.  Thank you Grant, too!
>
>      You already tested this card (Vis EG HSC) on your
>      HP-Visualize C360 machine. The X-Windows system should be
>      started in this case.
>
>      Can you say me please, where can I find/order and buy this
>      card?
>
>      Thank you very much,
>
>      Kind regards, Zlatan
>
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: Derek Engelhaupt
>      [mailto:derekengelhaupt@rocketmail.com]
>      Sent: Mittwoch, 18. Juni 2003 18:00
>      To: Grant Grundler; Jukic Zlatan
>      Cc: parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
>      Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP
>      PARISC C360
>
>      Yes, there is an HSC EG card.  Used it in my C360 before I
>      sold it.  The PCI version of the card has more memory on it
>      though.
>      derek
>      Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org> wrote:
>
>           On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 04:17:02PM +0200, Zlatan
>           Jukic wrote:
>
>
>           > I could not start unfortunately the X-Windows
>           system, because it is not
>           > supported by Fx-4 video card.?!
>
>           correct
>
>           > My question is here: Must I insert another card
>           (and which??), in order to
>           > start X-Windows-system?
>
>           > According to Debian HPPA, the Visualize EG
>           should correct to function.
>
>           yes. *PCI* version of the card.
>           Vis-EG HSC card might also work.
>
>           > This card is a 24-bit-video-card, which is
>           recognized in the best way under
>           > Linux as "Coral" with HP 715-64,
>
>           Is that really a Vis-EG HSC card?
>           Can you post "dmesg" output where STI describes
>           the card?
>
>           grant
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RE: [parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360

[Zlatan Jukic]

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Hello Jesse, Hi all,

 

As said, I have a fx4-card, which unfortunately does not support the X
Windows system in my machine. 

 

I need, after the suggestion of Grant and Derek a "Visualize EG HSC *PCI*
card".  

Derek used this card for its HP PA-RISC C360, because this card supports
X-Window-system.

 

Before I decide I must know whether your "A4977A Visualize EG Graphics card"
is the same version of the card as the "Visualize EG HSC *PCI* ". 

 

Better said:  Which, of your cards, is "Visualize EG HSC *PCI* card" ? 

 

What means the abbreviation "HSC" ?

 

Thanks for all your assistance,

Kind regards, Zlatan

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Dougherty [mailto:jesse@cypress-tech.com] 
Sent: Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2003 19:02
To: Derek Engelhaupt
Cc: Jukic Zlatan; parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360

 

Hi Derek, thanks for the plug. We do have the A4977A and A4450A graphics
cards for $125.00 each, the converter is $25.00. 

Thanks 
Jesse 
Cypress Technology Inc 
727-557-0911 

Derek Engelhaupt wrote: 

You will need one of the following cards:  A4977A (PCI), A4450A (GSC), or
A4451A (GSC dual head).  Part numbers are listed below.  You will also need
an EVC to 15-pin converter for all of these cards and that part number is
listed below also.  All of this info came from partsurfer.hp.com (no "www"
in front of it).  There is a PCI EG card for sale on Ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3031053367&category=1122
1> &item=3031053367&category=11221 Looks like Cypress Tech (
sales@cypress-tech.com) have some of the A4450A GSC cards, but I've never
had any dealings with them.  Their prices on Ebay seem high though.   Good
luck. 


 


A4450-66501

636.00


 


VISUALIZE-EG graphic accelerator board - For 2D and 3D wireframe graphics -
Includes color recovery (P/O A4450A) 

 


 


A4451-66501

1644.00


 


Dual VISUALIZE-EG graphic accelerator board - For 2D and 3D wireframe
graphics - Includes color recovery (A4451A) 

 


 


1253-0635

28.00


 


Enhanced Video Connector (EVC) video adapter cable - EVC(M) to 15-pin(F) -
7.87in (0.2m) long - Used to connect EVC video output to 15-pin monitor 

 


 


A4977-66501


 


VIZUALIZE-EG/PCI 


Zlatan Jukic <zlatan.jukic@fh-vorarlberg.ac.at> wrote: 

Hello Derek and all,

Thank you for your assistance.  Thank you Grant, too! 

You already tested this card (Vis EG HSC) on your HP-Visualize C360 machine.
The X-Windows system should be started in this case.  

Can you say me please, where can I find/order and buy this card? 

Thank you very much, 

Kind regards, Zlatan 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Derek Engelhaupt [mailto:derekengelhaupt@rocketmail.com] 
Sent: Mittwoch, 18. Juni 2003 18:00 
To: Grant Grundler; Jukic Zlatan 
Cc: parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org 
Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360 

Yes, there is an HSC EG card.  Used it in my C360 before I sold it.  The PCI
version of the card has more memory on it though.

derek

Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org> wrote: 

On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 04:17:02PM +0200, Zlatan Jukic wrote:


> I could not start unfortunately the X-Windows system, because it is not 
> supported by Fx-4 video card.?! 

correct 

> My question is here: Must I insert another card (and which??), in order to

> start X-Windows-system? 

> According to Debian HPPA, the Visualize EG should correct to function. 

yes. *PCI* version of the card. 
Vis-EG HSC card might also work. 

> This card is a 24-bit-video-card, which is recognized in the best way
under 
> Linux as "Coral" with HP 715-64, 

Is that really a Vis-EG HSC card? 
Can you post "dmesg" output where STI describes the card? 

grant 
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Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 11:30:11AM +0200, Zlatan Jukic wrote:
> I need, after the suggestion of Grant and Derek a "Visualize EG HSC *PCI*
> card".  

Nono.  You need _either_ a VisEG HSC card _or_ a VisEG PCI card.

> What means the abbreviation "HSC" ?

Highspeed System Connect (iirc).  It's an HP proprietary bus.  You either
want an HSC card or a PCI card.

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RE: [parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360

[Zlatan Jukic]

Hello Willy & Matthew,

Thanks.  It's OK! Derek has said that PCI version has more memory.

What could you recommend me?  I need a safe start of the X Windows-system!

Thanks for your understanding,
and for all your assistance.

Kind regards, Zlatan


-----Original Message-----
From: willy@www.linux.org.uk [mailto:willy@www.linux.org.uk] On Behalf Of
Matthew Wilcox
Sent: Freitag, 20. Juni 2003 13:28
To: Jukic Zlatan
Cc: 'Jesse Dougherty'; 'Derek Engelhaupt'; grundler@parisc-linux.org;
parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360

On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 11:30:11AM +0200, Zlatan Jukic wrote:
> I need, after the suggestion of Grant and Derek a "Visualize EG HSC *PCI*
> card".  

Nono.  You need _either_ a VisEG HSC card _or_ a VisEG PCI card.

> What means the abbreviation "HSC" ?

Highspeed System Connect (iirc).  It's an HP proprietary bus.  You either
want an HSC card or a PCI card.

-- 
"It's not Hollywood.  War is real, war is primarily not about defeat or
victory, it is about death.  I've seen thousands and thousands of dead
bodies.
Do you think I want to have an academic debate on this subject?" -- Robert
Fisk

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Visualize EG card on HP PARISC C360

[Grant Grundler]

On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 02:39:56PM +0200, Zlatan Jukic wrote:
> What could you recommend me?  I need a safe start of the X Windows-system!

Get the Visual-EG PCI card. It definitely works.
Derek posted the part numbers before.
See http://lists.parisc-linux.org/ for the mail archive.

grant