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From: "Joseph, Jithu" <jithu.joseph@intel.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: <hdegoede@redhat.com>, <markgross@kernel.org>,
	<tglx@linutronix.de>, <mingo@redhat.com>,
	<dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>, <x86@kernel.org>, <hpa@zytor.com>,
	<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	<tony.luck@intel.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org>, <patches@lists.linux.dev>,
	<ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>, <thiago.macieira@intel.com>,
	<athenas.jimenez.gonzalez@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/14] x86/microcode/intel: Expose microcode_sanity_check()
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2022 23:15:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a4107510-add4-3d85-ed2f-2f5e8c32a350@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y2OnHuSHgIMGxcUH@zn.tnic>



On 11/3/2022 4:33 AM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> The moment we decide to change something in the microcode loader, we're
> going to have to
> 
> * test the IFS driver too
> 
> * and I suspect we won't even be able to because we'd probably need
> special hardware and those special blobs which you probably don't
> distribute freely.

We hear your concern that IFS test images are not yet publicly available for testing.
We are working on it and it should be available in the near future.

> 
> And yes, right now that function should be doing the SDM-sanctioned
> dance about verifying the table and thus should also be generic but
> judging from past experience, things do get different in time and
> implementations do get changed so even if it is a trivial change to
> microcode_sanity_check(), we would still need to test the IFS driver
> too.
> 
> So I'm wondering if it wouldn't be simply easier on everyone involved if
> you just copy the bits you need into your driver and use them there as
> you wish.
> 
> Then the testing burden won't be an issue and there won't be any
> potential cross-breakages.
> 

We further hear your concern of potential cross-breakages due to IFS and
Intel Microcode update driver sharing common functionality (like find_matching_signature()
and microcode_sanity_check()). Within Intel, microcode and IFS folks do work closely,
limiting the chances of this being introduced from Intel side.

If these doesn’t alleviate your concern, I will post v2 without exporting
the aforementioned functions and implementing them separately in IFS driver as you suggested.

Jithu


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-04  6:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 177+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-21 20:33 [PATCH 00/14] IFS multi test image support and misc changes Jithu Joseph
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 01/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove unused selection Jithu Joseph
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 02/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Propagate load failure error code Jithu Joseph
2022-10-24 22:52   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-10-24 23:17     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 03/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: return a more appropriate Error code Jithu Joseph
2022-10-24 22:57   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-10-24 23:01     ` Luck, Tony
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 04/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove image loading during init Jithu Joseph
2022-10-24 23:50   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-10-25  0:41     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-10-25  6:06       ` Sohil Mehta
2022-10-26 23:53         ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-01  7:00           ` Sohil Mehta
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 05/14] x86/microcode/intel: Expose find_matching_signature() for IFS Jithu Joseph
2022-11-02 19:03   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-02 21:32     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 06/14] x86/microcode/intel: Use appropriate type in microcode_sanity_check() Jithu Joseph
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 07/14] x86/microcode/intel: Expose microcode_sanity_check() Jithu Joseph
2022-11-01  7:28   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-01 19:06     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-03 11:33   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-03 19:25     ` Ashok Raj
2022-11-03 23:32       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-04  6:15     ` Joseph, Jithu [this message]
2022-11-04 10:50       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-04 22:02         ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-04 22:14           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 08/14] x86/microcode/intel: Meta-data support in microcode file Jithu Joseph
2022-11-01  8:51   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-01 18:05     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-03 11:35   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 09/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Use generic microcode headers and functions Jithu Joseph
2022-11-01 18:37   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-01 21:07     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 10/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add metadata validation Jithu Joseph
2022-11-01 20:28   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-09 23:10   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 11/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove reload sysfs entry Jithu Joseph
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 12/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add current_batch " Jithu Joseph
2022-11-01 22:26   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-01 23:27     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-03  8:03       ` Sohil Mehta
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 13/14] Documentation/ABI: Update IFS ABI doc Jithu Joseph
2022-11-01 22:34   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-01 22:48     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-01 22:59       ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-02 22:10         ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-03  7:49           ` Sohil Mehta
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 14/14] Revert "platform/x86/intel/ifs: Mark as BROKEN" Jithu Joseph
2022-11-03  8:21 ` [PATCH 00/14] IFS multi test image support and misc changes Sohil Mehta
2022-11-07  9:24 ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-07 23:01   ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-07 22:53 ` [PATCH v2 " Jithu Joseph
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 01/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove unused selection Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  1:52     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:03     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 02/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: return a more appropriate Error code Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  1:57     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:04     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 03/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove image loading during init Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  1:59     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:06     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 04/14] x86/microcode/intel: Expose find_matching_signature() for IFS Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  2:06     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-11 13:44     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 05/14] x86/microcode/intel: Use appropriate type in microcode_sanity_check() Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  2:47     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-11 13:46     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 06/14] x86/microcode/intel: Expose microcode_sanity_check() Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  3:03     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-09  3:29       ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-11 14:33     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-11 21:39       ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 07/14] x86/microcode/intel: Use a reserved field for metasize Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  3:06     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-11 14:37     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 08/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add metadata support Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  3:25     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:08     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-11 16:16     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 09/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Use generic microcode headers and functions Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  3:29     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:11     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-11 16:23     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-11 20:41       ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-16 17:26       ` Tony Luck
2022-11-16 18:53         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-16 19:02           ` Luck, Tony
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 10/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add metadata validation Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09 23:15     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10  1:22       ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-10  9:40         ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:18     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-11 18:39     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-11 18:48       ` Dave Hansen
2022-11-11 20:30         ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-11 21:29         ` Ashok Raj
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 11/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove reload sysfs entry Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09 23:16     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:19     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 12/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add current_batch " Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09 23:46     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:22     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-12 16:26     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-12 18:21       ` Thiago Macieira
2022-11-12 19:20         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-12 19:58           ` Ashok Raj
2022-11-13  2:06           ` Thiago Macieira
2022-11-12 18:33       ` Luck, Tony
2022-11-12 19:28         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-12 23:32           ` Luck, Tony
2022-11-13  2:35             ` Thiago Macieira
2022-11-13  7:37         ` gregkh
2022-11-13 11:48           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-13 15:15             ` Ashok Raj
2022-11-13 15:58               ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-13 17:01                 ` Ashok Raj
2022-11-13 18:41                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-13 21:40                 ` Thiago Macieira
2022-11-13 22:59                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-14 18:13                 ` Dave Hansen
2022-11-14 18:25                   ` Luck, Tony
2022-11-14 19:03                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-14 19:07                     ` Luck, Tony
2022-11-14 19:17                       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-14 19:38                         ` Luck, Tony
2022-11-14 19:51                           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-13 16:41             ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-13 16:58               ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-13 17:55                 ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-13 18:27                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-13 21:33                     ` Tony Luck
2022-11-13 22:55                       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-13 21:21                 ` Thiago Macieira
2022-11-13 22:40                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-13 21:51             ` Thiago Macieira
2022-11-13 23:05               ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-14  8:28                 ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-14  7:15             ` gregkh
2022-11-14 15:33               ` Tony Luck
2022-11-14 15:47                 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 13/14] Documentation/ABI: Update IFS ABI doc Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09 23:55     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10  1:16       ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-10 21:33     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 14/14] Revert "platform/x86/intel/ifs: Mark as BROKEN" Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09 23:57     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:34     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-10  9:59   ` [PATCH v2 00/14] IFS multi test image support and misc changes Borislav Petkov
2022-11-10 21:37     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-10 21:58       ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-17  3:59   ` [PATCH v3 00/16] " Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 01/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove unused selection Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 02/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Return a more appropriate Error code Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 03/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove image loading during init Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 04/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove memory allocation from load path Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  8:51       ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-17 17:29         ` Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17 18:01           ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-17 19:59             ` Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17 21:13               ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-17 22:44                 ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 05/16] x86/microcode/intel: Reuse find_matching_signature() Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 06/16] x86/microcode/intel: Use appropriate type in microcode_sanity_check() Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 07/16] x86/microcode/intel: Reuse microcode_sanity_check() Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 08/16] x86/microcode/intel: Add hdr_type to intel_microcode_sanity_check() Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 09/16] x86/microcode/intel: Use a reserved field for metasize Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 10/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add metadata support Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 11/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Use generic microcode headers and functions Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17 22:50       ` Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 12/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add metadata validation Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17 23:04       ` Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 13/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove reload sysfs entry Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 14/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add current_batch " Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 15/16] Documentation/ABI: Update IFS ABI doc Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 16/16] Revert "platform/x86/intel/ifs: Mark as BROKEN" Jithu Joseph

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