From: Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>,
Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>,
Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Ashish Kalra <ashish.kalra@amd.com>,
Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
John Allen <john.allen@amd.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
patches@lists.linux.dev, Dan Williams <djbw@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 06/11] PCI/TSM: Describe the PCI attestation control family
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2026 09:35:26 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq5amrrua515.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <auShvL2m00S70H3d@FV6GYCPJ69>
Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us> writes:
> Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 04:26:13PM +0100, aneesh.kumar@kernel.org wrote:
>
>
> [..]
>
>
>>diff --git a/Documentation/ctlv/specs/ctlv-attestation-pci.yaml b/Documentation/ctlv/specs/ctlv-attestation-pci.yaml
>>new file mode 100644
>>index 000000000000..edb35cede0c2
>>--- /dev/null
>>+++ b/Documentation/ctlv/specs/ctlv-attestation-pci.yaml
>>@@ -0,0 +1,79 @@
>>+# SPDX-License-Identifier: ((GPL-2.0 WITH Linux-syscall-note) OR BSD-3-Clause)
>>+%YAML 1.2
>>+---
>>+family:
>>+ name: ctlv-attestation-pci
>>+ inherits: ctlv-attestation
>>+ pre-init: true
>>+
>>+attr-groups:
>>+ - name: pci
>>+ attrs:
>>+ - name: name
>>+ type: string
>>+ min-length: 1
>>+ max-length: 31
>>+ - name: generation
>>+ type: uint
>>+ max: 4294967295
>>+ - name: tsm-id
>>+ type: uint
>>+ max: 2147483647
>>+ - name: connected
>>+ type: uint
>>+ max: 1
>>+ - name: locked
>>+ type: uint
>>+ max: 1
>>+ - name: accepted
>>+ type: uint
>>+ max: 1
>>+ - name: dsm
>>+ type: string
>>+ min-length: 1
>>+ max-length: 31
>>+
>>+ - name: object
>>+ enum: evidence-blob-class
>>+ - name: challenge
>>+ type: binary
>>+ min-length: 32
>>+ max-length: 32
>>+
>>+attr-sets:
>>+ - name: device-info
>>+ attrs: pci.name
>>+ - name: change-reply
>>+ attrs: pci.generation
>>+ - name: state-reply
>>+ attrs:
>>+ - pci.generation
>>+ - pci.connected
>>+ - pci.locked
>>+ - pci.accepted
>>+ optional-attrs:
>>+ - pci.tsm-id
>>+ - pci.dsm
>>+
>>+ - name: refresh-request
>>+ attrs:
>>+ - pci.generation
>>+ - pci.object
>>+ optional-attrs:
>>+ - pci.challenge
>>+
>>+ops:
>>+ - name: state-get
>>+ type: action
>>+ fd-access: read
>>+ reply:
>>+ attrs: state-reply
>>+ - name: evidence-refresh
>
> I'm missing why exactly you need this op. Can't you do whatever is
> needed in the provider evidence_get implementation? Why it needs to be 2
> step.
>
> Also, why do you think this is provider-specific op?
>
>
>
>>+ type: action
>>+ fd-access: read-write
>>+ availability: dynamic
>>+ optional: true
>>+ request:
>>+ attrs: refresh-request
>>+ reply:
>>+ attrs: change-reply
>
>
> This differs from what I had in mind: a transport-neutral
> ctlv-attestation-spdm family with SPDM_GET and SPDM_AUTHENTICATE.
>
> SPDM_GET would report discovery BaseHash, discovered slots and their
> certificate digests, authentication state, and the effective
> authentication slot. SPDM_AUTHENTICATE would take device-generation and
> the selected slot. EVIDENCE_GET would retrieve CERT_CHAIN with
> blob-instance=slot without selecting the authentication slot.
>
> That discovery view is not present in the posted schema; STATE_GET does
> not provide it.
>
> Would this split work here? It would also allow non-PCI SPDM adapters to
> share the contract. I understand that multi-slot discovery is deferred,
> but a slot-zero implementation could still use this family and operation
> layout.
>
The only point that remains unclear to me is the distinction between
EVIDENCE_ACCEPT and SPDM_AUTHENTICATE. Also, would EVIDENCE_GET retrieve
fresh evidence on every call? If so, we do not need evidence-refresh.
-aneesh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-31 4:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-28 15:26 [RFC PATCH v1 00/11] PCI/TSM: Add CTLV attestation Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/11] attestation: Restrict inherited operations per instance Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-30 13:29 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/11] attestation: Filter evidence objects " Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-30 13:44 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-31 6:24 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/11] attestation: Enter secure operation when evidence is accepted Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-30 13:51 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-30 15:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-31 4:09 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/11] attestation: Bind object selection to accepted evidence snapshots Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/11] attestation: Make the evidence-get challenge attribute optional Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/11] PCI/TSM: Describe the PCI attestation control family Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-30 14:01 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-30 15:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-31 4:05 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V [this message]
2026-10-31 4:22 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/11] attestation: Add attestation helpers for PCI/TSM integration Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/11] PCI/TSM: Bind CTLV attestation to connected and locked contexts Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-28 22:56 ` Dave Jiang
2026-10-29 5:30 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-10-29 12:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-30 14:04 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-30 14:08 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-30 15:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/11] crypto/ccp: Defer SEV-TIO link setup until evidence acceptance Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/11] virt: coco: arm-cca-host: Publish slot zero and establish streams after acceptance Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-29 16:56 ` Dave Jiang
2026-10-29 17:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-30 9:58 ` Reshetova, Elena
2026-10-30 13:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-31 3:47 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/11] virt: coco: arm-cca-guest: Refresh selected evidence against trusted digests Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-30 12:34 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/11] PCI/TSM: Add CTLV attestation Xu Yilun
2026-10-30 15:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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