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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Matthew W Carlis <mattc@purestorage.com>
Cc: bhelgaas@google.com, kbusch@kernel.org,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, lukas@wunner.de,
	mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com,
	sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] PCI/portdrv: Allow DPC if the OS controls AER natively.
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 14:29:49 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240124202949.GA358535@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240123231834.11340-1-mattc@purestorage.com>

On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 04:18:34PM -0700, Matthew W Carlis wrote:
> Hello again! I'm glad that I'm not the only person with a little
> confusion about the FW ECN regarding DPC/EDR. I would argue that DPC
> wasn't tied to EDR & shouldn't have been because DPC was added in
> PCI Base Spec Rev 3.1 in 2014, but there wasn't an EDR ECN till
> ~2020. Anyway, that's the way it goes..

It does involve several different specs (PCIe Base for the DPC
hardware feature, ACPI for the OS/firmware EDR interface, PCI Firmware
for the EDR support and DPC ownership negotiation), so maybe that
helps explain the muddle.

> I don't want to burden the kernel with making some impossible boot
> time decision here. Perhaps most of the machines in the world using
> DPC will soon use EDR/SFI etc. My use cases are a bit out of the
> ordinary & the ACPI specifications don't seem to have given us a
> mechanism for the kernel to conclude it can use DPC without EDR
> support...

I don't know anything about SFI and I don't see any required
connection between DPC/EDR/SFI in the PCI Firmware spec.

The PCI Firmware spec requires ACPI OSes to support EDR if they want
to use DPC.  But I don't know that the firmware is required to
actually implement the EDR functionality.

Non-ACPI OSes are presumed to own DPC and all other PCIe hardware
features, and I don't think EDR would be in the picture since it's an
ACPI thing.

> Shall I submit a patch removing CONFIG_PCIE_EDR? Perhaps the
> exercise would inform me about whether its code should be in
> CONFIG_PCIE_DPC or CONFIG_ACPI.

That would be great!  I would say CONFIG_PCIE_EDR should go away and
edr.c should only be compiled if CONFIG_PCIE_DPC=y and CONFIG_ACPI=y.

Bjorn

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-24 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-23 21:22 [PATCH 1/1] PCI/portdrv: Allow DPC if the OS controls AER natively Matthew W Carlis
2023-12-23 21:22 ` Matthew W Carlis
2023-12-25 17:53   ` kernel test robot
2023-12-25 20:36   ` kernel test robot
2023-12-26  0:02     ` Matthew W Carlis
2023-12-28 21:23   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-01-02 15:41     ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2024-01-08 19:46       ` Matthew W Carlis
2024-01-08 19:53         ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2024-01-09  0:15           ` Matthew W Carlis
2024-01-10 16:41             ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2024-01-10 17:13               ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2024-01-10 20:01                 ` Matthew W Carlis
2024-01-10 19:59               ` Matthew W Carlis
2024-01-22 19:32             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-01-23  2:37               ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2024-01-23 15:59                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-01-23 23:18                   ` Matthew W Carlis
2024-01-24 20:29                     ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2024-02-21 23:11                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-02-21 23:33                     ` Bjorn Helgaas

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