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From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Lukas Wunner" <lukas@wunner.de>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	linuxarm@huawei.com, "Mahesh J Salgaonkar" <mahesh@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	"Davidlohr Bueso" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	"Dave Jiang" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	"Alison Schofield" <alison.schofield@intel.com>,
	"Vishal Verma" <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	"Ira Weiny" <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	terry.bowman@amd.com,
	"Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan"
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
	"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/9] pci: portdrv: Add auxiliary bus and register CXL PMUs (and aer)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 12:23:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240905122342.000001be@Huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87plpsbbe5.ffs@tglx>

Hi Thomas,

One quick follow up question below.

> 
> So looking at the ASCII art of the cover letter:
> 
>  _____________ __            ________ __________
> |  Port       |  | creates  |        |          |
> |  PCI Dev    |  |--------->| CPMU A |          |
> |_____________|  |          |________|          |
> |portdrv binds   |          | perf/cxlpmu binds |
> |________________|          |___________________|
>                  \         
>                   \
>                    \         ________ __________
>                     \       |        |          |
>                      ------>| CPMU B |          |      
>                             |________|          |
>                             | perf/cxlpmu binds |
>                             |___________________|
> 
> AND
> 
>  _____________ __ 
> |  Type 3     |  | creates                                 ________ _________
> |  PCI Dev    |  |--------------------------------------->|        |         |
> |_____________|  |                                        | CPMU C |         |
> | cxl_pci binds  |                                        |________|         |
> |________________|                                        | perf/cxpmu binds |
>                                                           |__________________|
> 
> If I understand it correctly then both the portdrv and the cxl_pci
> drivers create a "bus". The CPMU devices are attached to these buses.
> 
> So we are talking about distinctly different devices with the twist that
> these devices somehow need to utilize the MSI/X (forget MSI) facility of
> the device which creates the bus.
> 
> From the devres perspective we look at separate devices and that's what
> the interrupt code expects too. This reminds me of the lengthy
> discussion we had about IMS a couple of years ago.
> 
>   https://lore.kernel.org/all/87bljg7u4f.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de/
> 
> My view on that issue was wrong because the Intel people described the
> problem wrong. But the above pretty much begs for a proper separation
> and hierarchical design because you provide an actual bus and distinct
> devices. Reusing the ASCII art from that old thread for the second case,
> but it's probably the same for the first one:
> 
>            ]-------------------------------------------|
>            | PCI device                                |
>            ]-------------------|                       |
>            | Physical function |                       |
>            ]-------------------|                       |
>            ]-------------------|----------|            |
>            | Control block for subdevices |            |
>            ]------------------------------|            |
>            |            | <- "Subdevice BUS"           |
>            |            |                              |
>            |            |-- Subddevice 0               | 
>            |            |-- Subddevice 1               | 
>            |            |-- ...                        | 
>            |            |-- Subddevice N               | 
>            ]-------------------------------------------|
> 
> 1) cxl_pci driver binds to the PCI device.
> 
> 2) cxl_pci driver creates AUXbus
> 
> 3) Bus enumerates devices on AUXbus
> 
> 4) Drivers bind to the AUXbus devices
> 
> So you have a clear provider consumer relationship. Whether the
> subdevice utilizes resources of the PCI device or not is a hardware
> implementation detail.
> 
> The important aspect is that you want to associate the subdevice
> resources to the subdevice instances and not to the PCI device which
> provides them.
> 
> Let me focus on interrupts, but it's probably the same for everything
> else which is shared.
> 
> Look at how the PCI device manages interrupts with the per device MSI
> mechanism. Forget doing this with either one of the legacy mechanisms.
> 
>   1) It creates a hierarchical interrupt domain and gets the required
>      resources from the provided parent domain. The PCI side does not
>      care whether this is x86 or arm64 and it neither cares whether the
>      parent domain does remapping or not. The only way it cares is about
>      the features supported by the different parent domains (think
>      multi-MSI).
>      
>   2) Driver side allocations go through the per device domain
> 
> That AUXbus is not any different. When the CPMU driver binds it wants to
> allocate interrupts. So instead of having a convoluted construct
> reaching into the parent PCI device, you simply can do:
> 
>   1) Let the cxl_pci driver create a MSI parent domain and set that in
>      the subdevice::msi::irqdomain pointer.
> 
>   2) Provide cxl_aux_bus_create_irqdomain() which allows the CPMU device
>      driver to create a per device interrupt domain.
> 
>   3) Let the CPMU driver create its per device interrupt domain with
>      the provided parent domain
> 
>   4) Let the CPMU driver allocate its MSI-X interrupts through the per
>      device domain
> 
> Now on the cxl_pci side the AUXbus parent interrupt domain allocation
> function does:
> 
>     if (!pci_msix_enabled(pdev))
>     	return pci_msix_enable_and_alloc_irq_at(pdev, ....);
>     else
>         return pci_msix_alloc_irq_at(pdev, ....);

Hi Thomas,

I'm struggling to follow this suggestion
Would you expect the cxl_pci MSI parent domain to set it's parent as
msi_domain = irq_domain_create_hierarchy(dev_get_msi_domain(&pdev->dev),
					 IRQ_DOMAIN_FLAG_MSI_PARENT,
					 ...
which seems to cause a problem with deadlocks in __irq_domain_alloc_irqs()
or create a separate domain structure and provide callbacks that reach into
the parent domain as necessary?

Or do I have this entirely wrong? I'm struggling to relate what existing
code like PCI does to what I need to do here.

Jonathan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-05 11:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-29 16:40 [RFC PATCH 0/9] pci: portdrv: Add auxiliary bus and register CXL PMUs (and aer) Jonathan Cameron
2024-05-29 16:40 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] pci: pcie: Drop priv_data from struct pcie_device and use dev_get/set_drvdata() instead Jonathan Cameron
2024-05-29 16:40 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] pci: portdrv: Drop driver field for port type Jonathan Cameron
2024-05-29 16:40 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] pci: pcie: portdrv: Use managed device handling to simplify error and remove flows Jonathan Cameron
2024-05-29 16:40 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] auxiliary_bus: expose auxiliary_bus_type Jonathan Cameron
2024-05-29 16:40 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] pci: pcie: portdrv: Add a auxiliary_bus Jonathan Cameron
2024-05-29 16:41 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] cxl: Move CPMU register definitions to header Jonathan Cameron
2024-05-29 16:41 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] pci: pcie/cxl: Register an auxiliary device for each CPMU instance Jonathan Cameron
2024-05-29 16:41 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] perf: cxl: Make the cpmu driver also work with auxiliary_devices Jonathan Cameron
2024-05-29 16:41 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] pci: pcie: portdrv: aer: Switch to auxiliary_bus Jonathan Cameron
2024-06-05 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH 0/9] pci: portdrv: Add auxiliary bus and register CXL PMUs (and aer) Bjorn Helgaas
2024-06-05 19:44   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-06-06 12:57     ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-06-06 13:21       ` Lukas Wunner
2024-08-23 11:05         ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-08-28 21:11           ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-08-29 12:17             ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-09-05 11:23             ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2024-09-06 10:11               ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-09-06 17:18                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-09-10 16:47                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-09-10 17:37                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-09-10 20:04                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-09-12 16:37                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-09-12 17:34                         ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-09-13 16:24                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-17  7:03       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-07-04 16:14       ` Jonathan Cameron

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