From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: manivannan.sadhasivam@oss.qualcomm.com
Cc: "Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Manivannan Sadhasivam" <mani@kernel.org>,
"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kwilczynski@kernel.org>,
"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
"David E. Box" <david.e.box@linux.intel.com>,
"Kai-Heng Feng" <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
"Chia-Lin Kao" <acelan.kao@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] PCI/ASPM: Enable ASPM and Clock PM by default on devicetree platforms
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 18:14:40 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250923231440.GA2088746@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250922-pci-dt-aspm-v2-0-2a65cf84e326@oss.qualcomm.com>
On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 09:46:43PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This series is one of the 'let's bite the bullet' kind, where we have decided to
> enable all ASPM and Clock PM states by default on devicetree platforms [1]. The
> reason why devicetree platforms were chosen because, it will be of minimal
> impact compared to the ACPI platforms. So seemed ideal to test the waters.
>
> Problem Statement
> =================
>
> Historically, PCI subsystem relied on the BIOS to enable ASPM and Clock PM
> states for PCI devices before the kernel boot if the default states are
> selected using:
>
> * Kconfig: CONFIG_PCIEASPM_DEFAULT=y, or
> * cmdline: "pcie_aspm=off", or
> * FADT: ACPI_FADT_NO_ASPM
>
> This was done to avoid enabling ASPM for the buggy devices that are known to
> create issues with ASPM (even though they advertise the ASPM capability). But
> BIOS is not at all a thing on most of the non-x86 platforms. For instance, the
> majority of the Embedded and Compute ARM based platforms using devicetree have
> something called bootloader, which is not anyway near the standard BIOS used in
> x86 based platforms. And these bootloaders wouldn't touch PCIe at all, unless
> they boot using PCIe storage, even then there would be no guarantee that the
> ASPM states will get enabled. Another example is the Intel's VMD domain that is
> not at all configured by the BIOS. But, this series is not enabling ASPM/Clock
> PM for VMD domain. I hope it will be done similarly in the future patches.
>
> Solution
> ========
>
> So to avoid relying on BIOS, it was agreed [2] that the PCI subsystem has to
> enable ASPM and Clock PM states based on the device capability. If any devices
> misbehave, then they should be quirked accordingly.
>
> First patch of this series introduces two helper functions to enable all ASPM
> and Clock PM states if of_have_populated_dt() is true. Second patch drops the
> custom ASPM enablement code from the pcie-qcom driver as it is no longer needed.
>
> Testing
> =======
>
> This series is tested on Lenovo Thinkpad T14s based on Snapdragon X1 SoC. All
> supported ASPM states are getting enabled for both the NVMe and WLAN devices by
> default.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/a47sg5ahflhvzyzqnfxvpk3dw4clkhqlhznjxzwqpf4nyjx5dk@bcghz5o6zolk
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20250828204345.GA958461@bhelgaas
>
> Changes in v2:
>
> - Used of_have_populated_dt() instead of CONFIG_OF to identify devicetree
> platforms
> - Renamed the override helpers and changed the override print
> - Moved setting the default state back to the original place and only kept the
> override in helpers
>
> Signed-off-by: Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@oss.qualcomm.com>
> ---
> Manivannan Sadhasivam (2):
> PCI/ASPM: Override the ASPM and Clock PM states set by BIOS for devicetree platforms
> PCI: qcom: Remove the custom ASPM enablement code
>
> drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-qcom.c | 32 --------------------------
> drivers/pci/pcie/aspm.c | 42 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> 2 files changed, 40 insertions(+), 34 deletions(-)
I tentatively put this on pci/aspm and included it in pci/next.
I think it's too late in the cycle to include this for v6.18, so I'll
probably defer it until v6.19, but maybe we can start getting a little
more testing.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-23 23:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-22 16:16 [PATCH v2 0/2] PCI/ASPM: Enable ASPM and Clock PM by default on devicetree platforms Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2025-09-22 16:16 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] PCI/ASPM: Override the ASPM and Clock PM states set by BIOS for " Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2025-10-14 16:30 ` FUKAUMI Naoki
2025-10-14 18:49 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-10-14 23:33 ` Dragan Simic
2025-10-15 6:22 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-15 11:23 ` Diederik de Haas
2025-10-23 18:57 ` Dragan Simic
2025-10-15 6:26 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-15 7:13 ` FUKAUMI Naoki
2025-10-15 7:50 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-15 9:11 ` Shawn Lin
2025-10-15 9:43 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-15 9:46 ` Niklas Cassel
2025-10-15 10:33 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-15 12:17 ` Niklas Cassel
2025-10-15 13:00 ` Shawn Lin
2025-10-15 15:23 ` Niklas Cassel
2025-10-15 23:30 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-10-16 6:46 ` Hongxing Zhu
2025-10-17 3:36 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-17 9:47 ` Shawn Lin
2025-10-17 10:04 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-17 12:19 ` Shawn Lin
2025-10-17 12:54 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-17 13:45 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-10-31 6:21 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-15 12:26 ` Diederik de Haas
2025-10-15 22:50 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-10-16 17:38 ` Diederik de Haas
2025-10-30 22:14 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-10-30 22:16 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-01-22 12:12 ` Jon Hunter
2026-01-22 13:17 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-01-22 13:43 ` Jon Hunter
2026-01-22 14:39 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-01-22 15:29 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-01-22 17:01 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-01-22 19:14 ` Jon Hunter
2026-01-23 10:55 ` Jon Hunter
2026-01-23 13:56 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-01-23 14:39 ` Jon Hunter
2026-02-16 14:03 ` Jon Hunter
2026-02-16 14:18 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-16 14:35 ` Jon Hunter
2026-02-19 17:42 ` Jon Hunter
2026-02-26 10:34 ` Jon Hunter
2026-02-26 11:08 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-26 16:55 ` Jon Hunter
2026-03-03 16:27 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-26 11:16 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-26 16:52 ` Jon Hunter
2026-03-03 16:17 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-03-06 16:03 ` Jon Hunter
2026-03-09 8:00 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-16 17:19 ` Claudiu Beznea
2026-02-18 13:56 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-05-07 10:25 ` Jon Hunter
2026-05-11 5:18 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-09-22 16:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] PCI: qcom: Remove the custom ASPM enablement code Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2025-09-23 23:14 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2025-11-08 16:18 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] PCI/ASPM: Enable ASPM and Clock PM by default on devicetree platforms Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-11-11 6:51 ` Val Packett
2025-11-11 7:19 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-11-11 7:40 ` Val Packett
2025-11-11 10:06 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-11-11 17:29 ` Val Packett
2025-11-13 4:30 ` Val Packett
2025-11-11 23:33 ` Bjorn Helgaas
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