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From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: <will@kernel.org>, <jgg@nvidia.com>, <joro@8bytes.org>,
	<bhelgaas@google.com>, <praan@google.com>, <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	<kees@kernel.org>, <smostafa@google.com>,
	<baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	<skaestle@nvidia.com>, <mmarrid@nvidia.com>,
	<skolothumtho@nvidia.com>, <bbiber@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Submit CMDQ_OP_PRI_RESP for IOPF event
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2026 17:44:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aj8dAWZ7GGyxfUdR@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b5085e09-6533-4f88-938d-8d46751cf7da@arm.com>

On Fri, Jun 26, 2026 at 05:15:13PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 28/05/2026 8:59 am, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > From: Malak Marrid <mmarrid@nvidia.com>
> > 
> > To handle IOMMU_FAULT_PAGE_REQ from the PRI queue, arm_smmu_page_response()
> > must issue a CMDQ_OP_PRI_RESP back to the SMMU.
> > 
> > However, either a stall event in the EVTQ or a PRI request in the PRIQ can
> > surface to the IOPF infrastructure with fault.type == IOMMU_FAULT_PAGE_REQ,
> > and a single master can in principle be both stall-capable and PRI-capable
> 
> No, the SMMU architecture does all it can to specifically forbid this, see
> 3.12.1 and 16.4, it just can't be made architecturally ILLEGAL to enable
> stalls for PCIe devices because there's no strict architectural definition
> for what "a PCIe device" actually is. Similarly with the note in the
> definition of STE.EATS about the relationship with CD.S - the unwritten
> implication is that defining specific behaviours would only create an
> unreasonable burden for hardware validation, for the sake of something that
> nobody in their right mind should ever do anyway.
> 
> The expectation is that RCiEPs which do speak stallable non-PCIe bus
> protocols will not go to the effort of implementing ATS/PRI capabilities
> (not least because there's every chance that such protocols simply doesn't
> have that kind of transaction flow anyway). And conversely that it can be
> considered an egregious firmware (or system design) error to even claim (let
> alone force) stall capability for a real PCIe root port which may be
> deadlocked by blocking its requirement for free-flowing writes. Thus I think
> we could go so far as to refuse to handle any endpoint which did somehow
> claim both.

Oh, I missed that. This certainly can simplify things here.

I will fix it.

Thanks!
Nicolin

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-27  0:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-28  7:59 [PATCH v2 00/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add PRI support Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28  7:59 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add arm_smmu_attach_release() Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28  7:59 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Factor out __queue_empty() and __queue_consumed() Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28  7:59 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add arm_smmu_drain_queue_for_iopf() helper Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28  8:43   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-28  7:59 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Drain in-flight fault handlers Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28 11:45   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-28  7:59 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Submit CMDQ_OP_PRI_RESP for IOPF event Nicolin Chen
2026-06-26 16:15   ` Robin Murphy
2026-06-27  0:44     ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2026-05-28  7:59 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Support PRI Page Request in arm_smmu_handle_ppr() Nicolin Chen
2026-05-30  4:59   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-28  7:59 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Disable PRI when no IRQ handler is registered Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28  9:13   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-28  7:59 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Allocate IOPF queue for ARM_SMMU_FEAT_PRI Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28  8:59   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-28  7:59 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] PCI/ATS: Add PRI stubs Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28  7:59 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] PCI/ATS: Export pci_enable_pri() and pci_reset_pri() Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28  7:59 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Enable PRI for PCI device in arm_smmu_probe_device() Nicolin Chen
2026-06-26 14:54 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add PRI support harsha.v
2026-06-27  0:43   ` Nicolin Chen

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