From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
"Joerg Roedel" <joro@8bytes.org>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
"Pranjal Shrivastava" <praan@google.com>,
Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>, <vsethi@nvidia.com>,
Shuai Xue <xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 03/18] PCI: Propagate FLR return values to callers
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2026 14:18:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <apCpkJaysSLVY4mr@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <178786269177.3808739.6763094519382046767.b4-review@b4>
On Thu, Aug 27, 2026 at 05:31:31PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > [ ... 24 lines skipped ... ]
> > Since these quirks have always returned success, escalating
> > would be a new and harmful behavior: the next method is typically the plain
> > "flr" method, which would re-run the same FLR without the extra steps the
> > quirk wraps around its pcie_flr() call. Add quirk_flr_err() converting that
> > -ENOTTY to -ETIMEDOUT, so the cascade still stops at the quirk as before.
> > The early "not applicable" -ENOTTY returns are left intact, and they still
> > ask the caller to try the next method.
>
> This seems like a very suspect AI conclusion to me.
>
> I think I'd drop this patch
>
> > Convert it at the quirk level rather than in pcie_flr() or pci_dev_wait(),
> > because those also serve the native "flr"/"af_flr"/"pm" methods, where the
> > -ENOTTY on timeout is deliberate per commit 91295d79d658 ("PCI: Handle FLR
> > failure and allow other reset types"): a timed-out native FLR escalates to
> > a stronger reset (e.g. bus reset), which skips no workaround there and may
> > recover the device. Converting in the core would also change the value seen
> > by every direct pcie_flr() caller.
> >
> > This is not a bug fix, since these functions have always returned success
> > and the propagated values are only consumed by incoming work.
>
> In what way? The quirks flows always succeed and it can keep always
> succeeding. If anyone finds this problematic they can properly
> propogate the error.
>
> Squashing the error just for quirks makes little sense.
PATCH-5 forwards the return values to pci_dev_reset_iommu_done(),
so IOMMU can keep a device blocked on a nonzero result. Dropping
this patch would leave the three VF quirks here always reporting
success, reopening the stale-ATC issue this series is fixing for
them.
Or do you think it's okay?
Thanks
Nicolin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-27 21:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-03 4:06 [PATCH v5 00/18] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Quarantine device upon ATC invalidation timeout Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 01/18] PCI: Don't suspend IOMMU when probing reset capability Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:27 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-27 20:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 02/18] PCI/CXL: Probe the underlying bus reset in cxl_reset_bus_function() Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:29 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-27 20:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-27 20:49 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-08-28 0:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-28 3:47 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 03/18] PCI: Propagate FLR return values to callers Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:25 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-27 20:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-27 21:18 ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2026-08-28 0:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-28 3:57 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 04/18] iommu: Convert gdev->blocked from bool to enum gdev_blocked Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:24 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-13 11:33 ` Baolu Lu
2026-07-13 18:25 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-08-27 20:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 05/18] iommu: Pass in reset result to pci_dev_reset_iommu_done() Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:27 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-13 11:48 ` Baolu Lu
2026-07-13 18:32 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-07-14 5:36 ` Baolu Lu
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 06/18] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Don't rb_erase() a never-inserted stream node Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:25 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 07/18] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Mark ATC invalidate timeouts via lockless bitmap Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:26 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 08/18] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Skip remaining GERROR causes on SFM Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:29 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 09/18] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Introduce per-cmdq cmdq_err_handler callback Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:32 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 10/18] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Recheck CMDQ_ERR in tegra241_vintf0_handle_error() Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:40 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 11/18] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Co-clear pending CMDQ_ERR when CMD_SYNC times out Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:39 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 12/18] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Introduce arm_smmu_cmdq_batch_issue() wrapper Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:22 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 13/18] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add streams_lock for atomic-context SID->master lookup Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:26 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 14/18] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add has_ats to struct arm_smmu_cmdq_batch Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:29 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 15/18] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add INV_TYPE_ATS_BROKEN to skip quarantined ATS masters Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:34 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 16/18] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Factor out CMDQ batch force-sync conditions Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:29 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 17/18] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Thread arm_smmu_master_domain on a per-master list Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:32 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-03 4:06 ` [PATCH v5 18/18] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Block ATS for a master upon an ATC invalidation timeout Nicolin Chen
2026-07-03 4:36 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-13 12:20 ` Baolu Lu
2026-07-13 18:50 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-07-14 5:46 ` Baolu Lu
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