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From: Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Gennady Kupava <gennady.kupava@gmail.com>
Cc: <linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Three problems behind broken "perf --call-graph dwarf" on AMD: IP and stack dump mismatch, libdw fails on lld's layout, and the unwinder fallback never runs
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2026 10:35:06 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27d79477-c469-413b-95bd-c6c1f8a40f55@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <apG-RzV0zyjoC-FY@google.com>

>>> 2. perf: precise events and DWARF call graphs are mutually exclusive on this
>>>    hardware, so arguably perf should simply not let the two be combined.  I
>>>    would suggest two rules rather than one, because a blanket refusal would
>>>    make the common case worse:
>>>
>>>    - for the default event, drop the P when --call-graph dwarf is requested,
>>>      silently and on PMUs where precision means IBS.  Otherwise a plain
>>>      "perf record -g --call-graph dwarf" starts failing outright on every AMD
>>>      box, which is worse than today.  The s390 case in evlist.c suggests this
>>>      kind of substitution is considered acceptable;
>>>
>>>    - if the user asked for a precise event explicitly and also asked for
>>>      DWARF call chains, refuse with a message that says why and what to do,
>>>      instead of quietly producing a useless result.
>>>
>>>    Note that this should be scoped to IBS.  On Intel, PEBS records the whole
>>>    register set, so precise events and DWARF unwinding work together there
>>>    and nothing needs restricting.  Frame-pointer call graphs are also fine
>>>    with precise events - only the leaf frame is off.
>>
>> I think we can enable both precise IP and dwarf callchains by using
>> PERF_SAMPLE_REGS_INTR.  For unwinding, it should use PERF_REG_X86_IP
>> from the REGS_INTR instead of sample.ip
> 
> Ok, it seems we already do this in the perf tools but it looks like the
> kernel already overwrote the PERF_REG_X86_IP with the precise IP.  I
> feel like we should fix the kernel.

This should resolve the DWARF unwinding issue with IBS PMUs:

--- a/arch/x86/events/amd/ibs.c
+++ b/arch/x86/events/amd/ibs.c
@@ -1523,8 +1523,11 @@ static int perf_ibs_handle_irq(struct perf_ibs *perf_ibs, struct pt_regs *iregs)
 			goto out;
 		}
 
-		set_linear_ip(&regs, ibs_data.regs[1]);
-		regs.flags |= PERF_EFLAGS_EXACT;
+		if (event->attr.sample_type & PERF_SAMPLE_IP) {
+			data.ip = ibs_data.regs[1];
+			data.sample_flags |= PERF_SAMPLE_IP;
+			regs.flags |= PERF_EFLAGS_EXACT;
+		}
 	}
 
 	if (((ibs_caps & IBS_CAPS_BIT63_FILTER) ||
---

However, there's no way to address the stack being out of sync with the
IBS RIP, since the IBS HW does not capture GPRs alongside the sample.

Thanks,
Ravi

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-31  5:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-21 21:49 [DISCUSSION] Three problems behind broken "perf --call-graph dwarf" on AMD: IP and stack dump mismatch, libdw fails on lld's layout, and the unwinder fallback never runs Gennady Kupava
2026-08-24 13:35 ` Ravi Bangoria
2026-08-25 18:05 ` Ian Rogers
2026-08-27 21:55 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-08-28 16:47   ` Namhyung Kim
2026-08-28 16:58   ` Namhyung Kim
2026-08-31  5:05     ` Ravi Bangoria [this message]
2026-09-01 15:19       ` Namhyung Kim
2026-09-03  8:39         ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-09-03 11:36           ` Ravi Bangoria
2026-09-03 11:59             ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-09-03 16:02               ` Ravi Bangoria
2026-09-04  0:22                 ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-09-05 10:14                   ` Gennady Kupava

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