From: Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>
To: peterz@infradead.org, rjw@rjwysocki.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, mingo@redhat.com,
dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, morten.rasmussen@arm.com,
chris.redpath@arm.com, patrick.bellasi@arm.com,
valentin.schneider@arm.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
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edubezval@gmail.com, srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com,
currojerez@riseup.net, javi.merino@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 13/14] sched/topology: Make Energy Aware Scheduling depend on schedutil
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:59:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180904105906.t5i7twyyt2omc45b@queper01-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180820094420.26590-14-quentin.perret@arm.com>
On Monday 20 Aug 2018 at 10:44:19 (+0100), Quentin Perret wrote:
> Energy Aware Scheduling (EAS) is designed with the assumption that
> frequencies of CPUs follow their utilization value. When using a CPUFreq
> governor other than schedutil, the chances of this assumption being true
> are small, if any. When schedutil is being used, EAS' predictions are at
> least consistent with the frequency requests. Although those requests
> have no guarantees to be honored by the hardware, they should at least
> guide DVFS in the right direction and provide some hope in regards to the
> EAS model being accurate.
>
> To make sure EAS is only used in a sane configuration, create a strong
> dependency on schedutil being used. Since having sugov compiled-in does
> not provide that guarantee, extend the existing CPUFreq policy notifier
> with a new case on governor changes. That allows the scheduler to
> register a callback on this notifier to rebuild the scheduling domains
> when governors are changed, and enable/disable EAS accordingly.
>
> cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
> cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> Signed-off-by: Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>
>
> ---
> This patch could probably be squashed into another one, but I kept it
> separate to ease the review. Also, it's probably optional as not having
> it will not 'break' things per se.
>
> I went for the smallest possible solution I could find, which has the
> good side of being simple, but it's definitely not the only one.
>
> Another possibility would be to hook things in sugov_start() and
> sugov_stop(), but that requires some more work. In this case, it
> wouldn't be possible to just re-build the sched_domains() from there,
> because when sugov_stop() is called, the 'governor' field of the policy
> hasn't been updated yet, so the condition (if gov == schedutil) in
> build_freq_domains() doesn't work.
>
> To workaround the issue we'll need to find a way to pass a cpumask to
> the topology code to specifically say 'sugov has been stopped on these
> CPUs'. That would mean more code to handle that, but that would also
> mean we don't have to mess around with the CPUFreq notifiers ...
>
> Not sure what's best, so all feedback is more than welcome.
Hi,
Does anybody have concerns with this patch ? Is it a reasonable option
to use the CPUFreq notifiers in this case ? If there is anything I can
do to ease the review please let me know.
Also, is there any hope that the 12 first patches could make it in 4.20
on their own ? Or is it already too late ?
Thanks,
Quentin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-04 10:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-20 9:44 [PATCH v6 00/14] Energy Aware Scheduling Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 01/14] sched: Relocate arch_scale_cpu_capacity Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 02/14] sched/cpufreq: Factor out utilization to frequency mapping Quentin Perret
2018-09-10 9:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 03/14] PM: Introduce an Energy Model management framework Quentin Perret
2018-08-29 10:04 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-29 13:28 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-31 9:04 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-09-11 9:34 ` Andrea Parri
2018-09-11 12:32 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-11 13:31 ` Andrea Parri
2018-09-10 9:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-10 10:38 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-10 10:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 04/14] PM / EM: Expose the Energy Model in sysfs Quentin Perret
2018-09-06 6:56 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-09-06 14:09 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-07 0:14 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 05/14] sched/topology: Reference the Energy Model of CPUs when available Quentin Perret
2018-08-29 16:22 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-29 16:56 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-30 10:00 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-30 10:47 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-30 12:50 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 06/14] sched/topology: Lowest CPU asymmetry sched_domain level pointer Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 07/14] sched/topology: Introduce sched_energy_present static key Quentin Perret
2018-08-29 16:50 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-29 17:20 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-30 9:23 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-30 9:57 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-30 10:18 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-09-06 6:06 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-09-06 9:29 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-06 23:49 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-09-07 8:24 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 08/14] sched/fair: Clean-up update_sg_lb_stats parameters Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 09/14] sched: Add over-utilization/tipping point indicator Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 10/14] sched/cpufreq: Refactor the utilization aggregation method Quentin Perret
2018-09-10 9:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-10 10:07 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-10 10:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 11/14] sched/fair: Introduce an energy estimation helper function Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 12/14] sched/fair: Select an energy-efficient CPU on task wake-up Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 13/14] sched/topology: Make Energy Aware Scheduling depend on schedutil Quentin Perret
2018-09-04 10:59 ` Quentin Perret [this message]
2018-09-06 9:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-06 14:38 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-07 8:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-07 8:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-07 9:02 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-07 15:29 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-09 20:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-10 8:24 ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-10 8:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-10 9:43 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v6 14/14] OPTIONAL: cpufreq: dt: Register an Energy Model Quentin Perret
2018-09-10 9:12 ` [PATCH v6 00/14] Energy Aware Scheduling Rafael J. Wysocki
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