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From: "Mario Limonciello (AMD) (kernel.org)" <superm1@kernel.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: mario.limonciello@amd.com, airlied@gmail.com,
	alexander.deucher@amd.com, christian.koenig@amd.com,
	dakr@kernel.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, lenb@kernel.org,
	pavel@kernel.org, simona@ffwll.ch,
	Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 3/3] drm/amd: Return -EBUSY for amdgpu_pmops_thaw() on success
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2025 09:19:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <695afd72-ca9e-40e2-87df-68a1313f4da6@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0jrMqUj8mJi7iNfkgeaz--MMuDYbVEzA9myr_UgHPFo+Q@mail.gmail.com>



On 10/21/2025 8:25 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 11:09 PM Mario Limonciello (AMD) (kernel.org)
> <superm1@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/20/2025 2:55 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 9:34 PM Mario Limonciello (AMD) (kernel.org)
>>> <superm1@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/20/2025 2:18 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 9:14 PM Mario Limonciello (AMD) (kernel.org)
>>>>> <superm1@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/20/2025 1:50 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 8:32 PM Mario Limonciello (AMD) (kernel.org)
>>>>>>> <superm1@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/20/2025 12:39 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 7:28 PM Mario Limonciello (AMD) (kernel.org)
>>>>>>>>> <superm1@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/20/2025 12:21 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 6:53 PM Mario Limonciello (AMD)
>>>>>>>>>>> <superm1@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The PM core should be notified that thaw was skipped for the device
>>>>>>>>>>>> so that if it's tried to be resumed (such as an aborted hibernate)
>>>>>>>>>>>> that it gets another chance to resume.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>        drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_drv.c | 2 +-
>>>>>>>>>>>>        1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_drv.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_drv.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> index 61268aa82df4d..d40af069f24dd 100644
>>>>>>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_drv.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_drv.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> @@ -2681,7 +2681,7 @@ static int amdgpu_pmops_thaw(struct device *dev)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>               /* do not resume device if it's normal hibernation */
>>>>>>>>>>>>               if (!pm_hibernate_is_recovering() && !pm_hibernation_mode_is_suspend())
>>>>>>>>>>>> -               return 0;
>>>>>>>>>>>> +               return -EBUSY;
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So that's why you need the special handling of -EBUSY in the previous patch.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yup.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think that you need to save some state in this driver and then use
>>>>>>>>>>> it in subsequent callbacks instead of hacking the core to do what you
>>>>>>>>>>> want.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The problem is the core decides "what" to call and more importantly
>>>>>>>>>> "when" to call it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> IE if the core thinks that something is thawed it will never call
>>>>>>>>>> resume, and that's why you end up in a bad place with Muhammad's
>>>>>>>>>> cancellation series and why I proposed this one to discuss.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We could obviously go back to dropping this case entirely:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if (!pm_hibernate_is_recovering() && !pm_hibernation_mode_is_suspend())
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But then the display turns on at thaw(), you do an unnecessary resource
>>>>>>>>>> eviction, it takes a lot longer if you have a ton of VRAM etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The cancellation series is at odds with this code path AFAICS because
>>>>>>>>> what if hibernation is canceled after the entire thaw transition?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Muhammad - did you test that specific timing of cancelling the hibernate?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some cleanup would need to be done before thawing user space I suppose.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree; I think that series would need changes for it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But if you put that series aside, I think this one still has some merit
>>>>>>>> on it's own.  If another driver aborted the hibernate, I think the same
>>>>>>>> thing could happen if it happened to run before amdgpu's device thaw().
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That series just exposed a very "easy" way to reproduce this issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Device thaw errors don't abort anything AFAICS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're right; it doesn't abort, it just is saved to the logs.
>>>>>> The state is also not maintained.
>>>>>>> What can happen though is that another device may abort the final
>>>>>>> "power off" transition, which is one of the reasons why I think that
>>>>>>> rolling it back is generally hard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's exactly the reason for the first patch in this series.  The state
>>>>>> of whether it succeeded isn't recorded.  So if thaw non-fatally fails
>>>>>> and you've saved state to indicate this then any of the other calls that
>>>>>> run can try again.
>>>>>
>>>>> So long as they are called.
>>>>>
>>>>> But as I said before, I would save the state in the driver thaw
>>>>> callback and then clear it in the driver poweroff callback and look at
>>>>> it in the driver restore callback.  If it is there at that point,
>>>>> poweroff has not run and hibernation is rolling back, so you need to
>>>>> do a "thaw".
>>>>
>>>> Are you suggesting that the device driver should directly manipulate
>>>> dev->power.is_suspended?
>>>
>>> No, it needs to have its own state for that.  power.is_suspended
>>> should not be manipulated by drivers (or anything other than the core
>>> for that matter).
>>
>> That's what I originally thought which is why this series looks like it
>> does.
>>
>>>
>>>> I'll do some testing but; I suppose that would work as well without
>>>> needing to make core changes if you don't see a need for other devices
>>>> to do this.
>>>
>>> So long as they don't try to skip the "thaw" actions, I don't.
>>>
>>> If there are more drivers wanting to do it, I guess it would be good
>>> to have a common approach although at this point I'm not sure how much
>>> in common there would be.
>>
>> But so if the state is maintained in the driver dev->power.is_suspended
>> will be FALSE at the end of thaw().  That means that restore() is never
>> called for a cancellation/abort.
> 
> OK, I see what you mean.
> 
> The failing scenario is when "thaw" leaves the devices in "freeze" and
> then "poweroff" is not called because the final transition is aborted
> and so "restore" is not called either and the device remains "frozen".
> 
>> So I think the only place to do the cleanup would be in the complete()
>> callback.  Do you think that's the best place for this based upon that
>> internal driver state variable?
> 
> It would be if nothing else depended on the device in question, but I
> somehow suspect that it is not the case.

Muhammad had a try with this and confirmed it worked on an mobile APU 
(which has no device dependency)

diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_drv.c 
b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_drv.c
index aad620cdfd399..a88c28579e290 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_drv.c
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_drv.c
@@ -2594,6 +2594,12 @@ static int amdgpu_pmops_prepare(struct device *dev)

  static void amdgpu_pmops_complete(struct device *dev)
  {
+       struct drm_device *drm_dev = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
+       struct amdgpu_device *adev = drm_to_adev(drm_dev);
+
+       if (adev->in_s4 && adev->in_suspend && pm_hibernate_is_recovering())
+               amdgpu_device_resume(drm_dev, true);
+
         amdgpu_device_complete(dev_get_drvdata(dev));
  }

But I think you're right it won't work in the case of a dGPU because the 
ordering between HDMI audio and GFX needs to be done properly.

> 
> I think that you need to trigger a "restore" for the "frozen" device
> in the right order with respect to the rest of dpm_list.  I guess you
> could add a special power.frozen flag that will be set by drivers
> leaving their devices in a "frozen" state in their "thaw" callback.
> Then, it could be converted to power.is_suspended in the error path of
> dpm_suspend() for "poweroff" transitions.

OK, I'll have a try with changing the series to do this, thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-21 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-20 16:50 [RFC 0/3] Fixups for cancelled hibernate Mario Limonciello (AMD)
2025-10-20 16:50 ` [RFC 1/3] PM: Mark device as suspended if it failed to resume Mario Limonciello (AMD)
2025-10-20 16:58   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-10-20 17:15     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-20 16:50 ` [RFC 2/3] PM: Don't pass up device_resume() -EBUSY errors Mario Limonciello (AMD)
2025-10-20 16:58   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-10-20 17:18   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-20 17:24     ` Mario Limonciello (AMD) (kernel.org)
2025-10-20 16:50 ` [RFC 3/3] drm/amd: Return -EBUSY for amdgpu_pmops_thaw() on success Mario Limonciello (AMD)
2025-10-20 16:59   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-10-20 17:21   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-20 17:28     ` Mario Limonciello (AMD) (kernel.org)
2025-10-20 17:39       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-20 18:32         ` Mario Limonciello (AMD) (kernel.org)
2025-10-20 18:50           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-20 19:14             ` Mario Limonciello (AMD) (kernel.org)
2025-10-20 19:18               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-20 19:34                 ` Mario Limonciello (AMD) (kernel.org)
2025-10-20 19:55                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-20 21:09                     ` Mario Limonciello (AMD) (kernel.org)
2025-10-21 13:25                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-21 14:19                         ` Mario Limonciello (AMD) (kernel.org) [this message]
2025-10-21 14:12           ` Muhammad Usama Anjum

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