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From: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
To: Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 14/16] sched/schedutil: Ignore dvfs headroom when util is decaying
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 11:40:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea9ce34f-0eab-438c-ab80-45e92a654bdc@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240820163512.1096301-15-qyousef@layalina.io>

On 8/20/24 17:35, Qais Yousef wrote:
> It means we're being idling or doing less work and are already running
> at a higher value. No need to apply any dvfs headroom in this case.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>
> ---
>  kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c | 11 ++++++++---
>  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c b/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c
> index 318b09bc4ab1..4a1a8b353d51 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c
> @@ -9,6 +9,7 @@
>  #define IOWAIT_BOOST_MIN	(SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE / 8)
>  
>  DEFINE_PER_CPU_READ_MOSTLY(unsigned long, response_time_mult);
> +DEFINE_PER_CPU(unsigned long, last_update_util);
>  
>  struct sugov_tunables {
>  	struct gov_attr_set	attr_set;
> @@ -262,15 +263,19 @@ static unsigned int get_next_freq(struct sugov_policy *sg_policy,
>   * Also take into accounting how long tasks have been waiting in runnable but
>   * !running state. If it is high, it means we need higher DVFS headroom to
>   * reduce it.
> - *
> - * XXX: Should we provide headroom when the util is decaying?
>   */
>  static inline unsigned long sugov_apply_dvfs_headroom(unsigned long util,  int cpu)
>  {
> -	unsigned long update_headroom, waiting_headroom;
> +	unsigned long update_headroom, waiting_headroom, prev_util;
>  	struct rq *rq = cpu_rq(cpu);
>  	u64 delay;
>  
> +	prev_util = per_cpu(last_update_util, cpu);
> +	per_cpu(last_update_util, cpu) = util;
> +
> +	if (util < prev_util)
> +		return util;
> +
>  	/*
>  	 * What is the possible worst case scenario for updating util_avg, ctx
>  	 * switch or TICK?

Kind of in the same vain as Sultan here, -/+1 util really doesn't tell much,
I would be wary to base any special behavior on that.
This goes for here but also for the 'periodic'-task detection in
[RFC PATCH 09/16] sched/fair: util_est: Take into account periodic tasks
in my experience as soon as we leave the world of rt-app workloads behind
these aren't stable enough on that granularity.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-18 10:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-20 16:34 [RFC PATCH 00/16] sched/fair/schedutil: Better manage system response time Qais Yousef
2024-08-20 16:34 ` [RFC PATCH 01/16] sched: cpufreq: Rename map_util_perf to sugov_apply_dvfs_headroom Qais Yousef
2024-08-20 16:34 ` [RFC PATCH 02/16] sched/pelt: Add a new function to approximate the future util_avg value Qais Yousef
2024-08-20 16:34 ` [RFC PATCH 03/16] sched/pelt: Add a new function to approximate runtime to reach given util Qais Yousef
2024-08-22  5:36   ` Sultan Alsawaf (unemployed)
2024-09-16 15:31     ` Christian Loehle
2024-08-20 16:35 ` [RFC PATCH 04/16] sched/fair: Remove magic hardcoded margin in fits_capacity() Qais Yousef
2024-08-22  5:09   ` Sultan Alsawaf (unemployed)
2024-09-17 19:41     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-08-20 16:35 ` [RFC PATCH 05/16] sched: cpufreq: Remove magic 1.25 headroom from sugov_apply_dvfs_headroom() Qais Yousef
2024-11-13  4:51   ` John Stultz
2024-08-20 16:35 ` [RFC PATCH 06/16] sched/schedutil: Add a new tunable to dictate response time Qais Yousef
2024-09-16 22:22   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-09-17 10:22     ` Christian Loehle
2024-08-20 16:35 ` [RFC PATCH 07/16] sched/pelt: Introduce PELT multiplier boot time parameter Qais Yousef
2024-08-20 16:35 ` [RFC PATCH 08/16] sched/fair: Extend util_est to improve rampup time Qais Yousef
2024-09-17 19:21   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-10-14 16:04   ` Christian Loehle
2024-08-20 16:35 ` [RFC PATCH 09/16] sched/fair: util_est: Take into account periodic tasks Qais Yousef
2024-11-13  4:57   ` John Stultz
2024-08-20 16:35 ` [RFC PATCH 10/16] sched/qos: Add a new sched-qos interface Qais Yousef
2024-11-28  1:47   ` John Stultz
2024-08-20 16:35 ` [RFC PATCH 11/16] sched/qos: Add rampup multiplier QoS Qais Yousef
2024-09-17 20:09   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-09-17 21:43   ` Ricardo Neri
2024-09-18 21:21     ` Ricardo Neri
2024-10-14 16:06   ` Christian Loehle
2024-11-28  0:12   ` John Stultz
2024-08-20 16:35 ` [RFC PATCH 12/16] sched/pelt: Add new waiting_avg to record when runnable && !running Qais Yousef
2024-09-18  7:01   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-08-20 16:35 ` [RFC PATCH 13/16] sched/schedutil: Take into account waiting_avg in apply_dvfs_headroom Qais Yousef
2024-08-20 16:35 ` [RFC PATCH 14/16] sched/schedutil: Ignore dvfs headroom when util is decaying Qais Yousef
2024-08-22  5:29   ` Sultan Alsawaf (unemployed)
2024-09-18 10:40   ` Christian Loehle [this message]
2024-08-20 16:35 ` [RFC PATCH 15/16] sched/fair: Enable disabling util_est via rampup_multiplier Qais Yousef
2024-08-20 16:35 ` [RFC PATCH 16/16] sched/fair: Don't mess with util_avg post init Qais Yousef
2024-09-16 12:21 ` [RFC PATCH 00/16] sched/fair/schedutil: Better manage system response time Dietmar Eggemann

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