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From: Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>
To: Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Chuck Lever <cel@kernel.org>, Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bernard Metzler <BMT@zurich.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 3/3] RDMA/siw: Require non-zero 6-byte MACs for soft iWARP
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 15:44:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <95eebf9d-3889-e639-68af-e01d7cfbf77f@talpey.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7825F977-3F62-4AFC-92F2-233C5EAE01D3@oracle.com>

On 5/23/2023 3:18 PM, Chuck Lever III wrote:
> 
>> On May 5, 2023, at 3:58 PM, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 11:43:11AM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
>>> From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
>>>
>>> In the past, LOOPBACK and NONE (tunnel) devices had all-zero MAC
>>> addresses. siw_device_create() would fall back to copying the
>>> device's name in those cases, because an all-zero MAC address breaks
>>> the RDMA core IP-to-device lookup mechanism.
>>
>> Why not just make up a dummy address in SIW? It shouldn't need to leak
>> out of it.. It is just some artifact of how the iWarp stuff has been
>> designed
> 
> So that approach is already being done in siw_device_create(),
> even though it is broken (the device name hasn't been initialized
> when the phony MAC is created, so it is all zeroes). I've fixed
> that and it still doesn't help.
> 
> siw cannot modify the underlying net_device to add a made-up
> MAC address.
> 
> The core address resolution code wants to find an L2 address
> for the egress device. The underlying ib_device, where a made-up
> GID might be stored, is not involved with address resolution
> AFAICT.
> 
> tun devices have no L2 address. Neither do loopback devices,
> but address resolution makes an exception for LOOPBACK devices
> by redirecting to a local physical Ethernet device.
> 
> Redirecting tun traffic to the local Ethernet device seems
> dodgy at best.
> 
> I wasn't sure that an L2 address was required for siw before,
> but now I'm pretty confident that it is required by our
> implementation.

Does rxe work over tunnels? Seems like it would have the same issue.

int rxe_register_device(struct rxe_dev *rxe, const char *ibdev_name)
{
...
         addrconf_addr_eui48((unsigned char *)&dev->node_guid,
                             rxe->ndev->dev_addr);

static struct siw_device *siw_device_create(struct net_device *netdev)
{
...
         addrconf_addr_eui48((unsigned char *)&base_dev->node_guid,
                                     netdev->dev_addr);

Tom.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-23 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-05 15:41 [PATCH RFC 0/3] siw on tunnel devices Chuck Lever
2023-05-05 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 1/3] net/tun: Ensure tun devices have a MAC address Chuck Lever
2023-05-05 16:59   ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-05-05 17:09     ` Chuck Lever III
2023-05-05 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] net/lo: Ensure lo " Chuck Lever
2023-05-05 16:57   ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-05-05 15:43 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] RDMA/siw: Require non-zero 6-byte MACs for soft iWARP Chuck Lever
2023-05-05 19:58   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-05 20:03     ` Chuck Lever III
2023-05-06 18:05       ` Chuck Lever III
2023-05-23 19:18     ` Chuck Lever III
2023-05-23 19:44       ` Tom Talpey [this message]
2023-05-23 22:50         ` Chuck Lever III

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