From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 09/10] vfio/pci: Extend VFIO_DEVICE_GET_PCI_HOT_RESET_INFO for vfio device cdev
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2023 08:24:13 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230601082413.22a55ac4.alex.williamson@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DS0PR11MB7529B223BD86210A21D142B2C3499@DS0PR11MB7529.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 06:06:17 +0000
"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com> wrote:
> > From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 3:00 AM
> >
> > On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 10:04:27AM +0800, Baolu Lu wrote:
> > > On 5/25/23 9:02 PM, Liu, Yi L wrote:
> > > > > It's possible that requirement
> > > > > might be relaxed in the new DMA ownership model, but as it is right
> > > > > now, the code enforces that requirement and any new discussion about
> > > > > what makes hot-reset available should note both the ownership and
> > > > > dev_set requirement. Thanks,
> > > > I think your point is that if an iommufd_ctx has acquired DMA ownerhisp
> > > > of an iommu_group, it means the device is owned. And it should not
> > > > matter whether all the devices in the iommu_group is present in the
> > > > dev_set. It is allowed that some devices are bound to pci-stub or
> > > > pcieport driver. Is it?
> > > >
> > > > Actually I have a doubt on it. IIUC, the above requirement on dev_set
> > > > is to ensure the reset to the devices are protected by the dev_set->lock.
> > > > So that either the reset issued by driver itself or a hot reset request
> > > > from user, there is no race. But if a device is not in the dev_set, then
> > > > hot reset request from user might race with the bound driver. DMA ownership
> > > > only guarantees the drivers won't handle DMA via DMA API which would have
> > > > conflict with DMA mappings from user. I'm not sure if it is able to
> > > > guarantee reset is exclusive as well. I see pci-stub and pcieport driver
> > > > are the only two drivers that set the driver_managed_dma flag besides the
> > > > vfio drivers. pci-stub may be fine. not sure about pcieport driver.
> > >
> > > commit c7d469849747 ("PCI: portdrv: Set driver_managed_dma") described
> > > the criteria of adding driver_managed_dma to the pcieport driver.
> > >
> > > "
> > > We achieve this by setting ".driver_managed_dma = true" in pci_driver
> > > structure. It is safe because the portdrv driver meets below criteria:
> > >
> > > - This driver doesn't use DMA, as you can't find any related calls like
> > > pci_set_master() or any kernel DMA API (dma_map_*() and etc.).
> > > - It doesn't use MMIO as you can't find ioremap() or similar calls. It's
> > > tolerant to userspace possibly also touching the same MMIO registers
> > > via P2P DMA access.
> > > "
> > >
> > > pci_rest_device() definitely shouldn't be done by the kernel drivers
> > > that have driver_managed_dma set.
> >
> > Right
> >
> > The only time it is safe to reset is if you know there is no attached
> > driver or you know VFIO is the attached driver and the caller owns the
> > VFIO too.
> >
> > We haven't done a no attached driver test due to races.
>
> Ok. @Alex, should we relax the above dev_set requirement now or should
> be in a separate series?
Sounds like no, you should be rejecting enhancements that increase
scope at this point and I don't see consensus here. My concern was
that we're not correctly describing the dev_set restriction which is
already in place but needs to be more explicitly described in an
implied ownership model vs proof of ownership model. Thanks,
Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-01 14:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-22 11:57 [PATCH v6 00/10] Enhance vfio PCI hot reset for vfio cdev device Yi Liu
2023-05-22 11:57 ` [PATCH v6 01/10] vfio-iommufd: Create iommufd_access for noiommu devices Yi Liu
2023-05-22 11:57 ` [PATCH v6 02/10] vfio/pci: Update comment around group_fd get in vfio_pci_ioctl_pci_hot_reset() Yi Liu
2023-05-22 11:57 ` [PATCH v6 03/10] vfio/pci: Move the existing hot reset logic to be a helper Yi Liu
2023-05-22 11:57 ` [PATCH v6 04/10] iommufd: Reserve all negative IDs in the iommufd xarray Yi Liu
2023-05-22 11:57 ` [PATCH v6 05/10] iommufd: Add iommufd_ctx_has_group() Yi Liu
2023-05-22 11:57 ` [PATCH v6 06/10] iommufd: Add helper to retrieve iommufd_ctx and devid Yi Liu
2023-05-22 11:57 ` [PATCH v6 07/10] vfio: Mark cdev usage in vfio_device Yi Liu
2023-05-22 11:57 ` [PATCH v6 08/10] vfio: Add helper to search vfio_device in a dev_set Yi Liu
2023-05-22 11:57 ` [PATCH v6 09/10] vfio/pci: Extend VFIO_DEVICE_GET_PCI_HOT_RESET_INFO for vfio device cdev Yi Liu
2023-05-24 19:56 ` Alex Williamson
2023-05-25 13:02 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-05-26 2:04 ` Baolu Lu
[not found] ` <ZHeZPPo/MWXV1L9Q@nvidia.com>
2023-06-01 6:06 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-01 14:24 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2023-05-22 11:57 ` [PATCH v6 10/10] vfio/pci: Allow passing zero-length fd array in VFIO_DEVICE_PCI_HOT_RESET Yi Liu
2023-05-24 20:19 ` Alex Williamson
2023-05-30 4:23 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-05-31 17:21 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-01 5:55 ` Liu, Yi L
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